TPE - Who to target?

[Further]

Blazers have a 21 mil TPE. That can be traded for up to 125% of the value + 100K. Other players can’t be included on the outgoing package but picks can. So Blazers could send out TPE + picks and target someone earning up to a tad over 26 million. Any thoughts on who the blazers would be targeting?

 

[SheedSoNasty]

Blevins

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Blazers have a 21 mil TPE. That can be traded for up to 125% of the value + 100K. Other players can’t be included on the outgoing package but picks can. So Blazers could send out TPE + picks and target someone earning up to a tad over 26 million. Any thoughts on who the blazers would be targeting?

100%+100K, not 125%. Limit would be 20,964,198

 

[wizenheimer]

 

[RR7]

100%+100K, not 125%. Limit would be 20,964,198

THis is correct. Unfortunately can't do the 125%, it's just plus 100k. Some names who fit, either this salary year or next:

Harrison Barnes
Jerami Grant(next year, he fits by 12K)
Randle(this season, next year his salary is too high.
Myles Turner
Bojan and Bogdan Bogdanovic
Caris Levert
Jonathan Isaac
Joe Harris
OG Anunoby
Lauri Markanen
Marus Smart
Christian Wood

Likely quite a few others.

That's at least in the...interested in acquiring these players category. There's also plenty of guys who maybe their team would send an asset with to move off of that player, and then we're able to use that asset to acquire someone else. Like, NY uses a pick to dump Fournier on us, and then we turn around and use THAT pick instead of ours or Pelicans along with Bledsoe to land Grant or whatever.

 

[e_blazer]

100%+100K, not 125%. Limit would be 20,964,198

Which just happens to fit nicely with Jeremai Grant's salary for next year: $20,955,000

 

[e_blazer]

So, let's say that the plan is to trade the Blazers' pick for Grant using the TPE, extend Simons & Nurk, use the MLE to add one more FA, and fill in with vets, that gives the Blazers a rotation next season of something like:

PG: Dame, Simons, Vet
SG: Simons, Hart, Ingles, Johnson
SF: Hart, Little, Ingles, Winslow
PF: Grant, Watford, Winslow, Brown
C: Nurk, FA, Watford

Not bad, but a contender? More likely a 4-5 seed, IMO, unless Simons and Little develop quickly into All-Star caliber players.

 

[Further]

100%+100K, not 125%. Limit would be 20,964,198

I’m not a CBA expert but I thought TPE’s over 19.6 mil are tradable up to 125%. Or is that only one type of TPE and not other types?

 

[RR7]

I’m not a CBA expert but I thought TPE’s over 19.6 mil are tradable up to 125%. Or is that only one type of TPE and not other types?

That's only player salary over that amount, not TPEs

 

[Cugel]

Grant is allergic to rebounding, I can't get on board with that.

 

[Further]

Grant is allergic to rebounding, I can't get on board with that.

I’m not a huge grant fan, but with Nas and Nurk playing the 3 and the 5, I think rebounding can be low priority at the 4 if other skills are sufficient.

 

[Scalma]

Harrison Barnes
Jerami Grant(next year, he fits by 12K)
Randle(this season, next year his salary is too high.
Myles Turner
Bojan and Bogdan Bogdanovic
Caris Levert
Jonathan Isaac
Joe Harris
OG Anunoby
Lauri Markanen
Marus Smart
Christian Wood

If were talking giving up the pelicans pick (assuming they even miss the playoffs) I would probably give it up for OG, and that's about it. Isaac would be the other but his injuries are a concern. Somethings gotta break in Toronto though with that OG/Siakam/Barnes trio

 

[boredinsalem]

If were talking giving up the pelicans pick (assuming they even miss the playoffs) I would probably give it up for OG, and that's about it. Isaac would be the other but his injuries are a concern. Somethings gotta break in Toronto though with that OG/Siakam/Barnes trio

I think the (extremely far-fetched) ideal is the Warriors flame out hard and their PE owners get impatient and willing to deal Draymond. We deal our exemption and our NO pick for Jerami Grant before the draft. Then we deal Bledsoe + our better pick (the lottery one) after it is made to Toronto and receive Draymond, GS sends Toronto an extra pick, and GS receives Siakam. Afterwards, we could sign Bamba with MLE.

I would love this rotation. Frontcourt looks crowded, but with Nurk and Draymond's injury histories and Grant's ability to play the 3 I don't think it actually would be.

Lillard/Williams
Simons/Hart/Ingles/Johnson
Little/Winslow/Didi
Grant/Green/Watford/Brown
Nuric/Bamba

lineup of death/closers: Lillard/Simons/Hart/Grant/Green

Hart's ability to rebound would help cover up small-ball limitations (and playing Grant's weaknesses).

 

[Pinwheel1]

I think the (extremely far-fetched) ideal is the Warriors flame out hard and their PE owners get impatient and willing to deal Draymond. We deal our exemption and our NO pick for Jerami Grant before the draft. Then we deal Bledsoe + our better pick (the lottery one) after it is made to Toronto and receive Draymond, GS sends Toronto an extra pick, and GS receives Siakam. Afterwards, we could sign Bamba with MLE.

I would love this rotation. Frontcourt looks crowded, but with Nurk and Draymond's injury histories and Grant's ability to play the 3 I don't think it actually would be.

Lillard/Williams
Simons/Hart/Johnson
Little/Winslow/Didi
Grant/Green/Watford/Brown
Nuric/Bamba

lineup of death/closers: Lillard/Simons/Hart/Grant/Green

Hart's ability to rebound would help cover up small-ball limitations (and playing Grant's weaknesses).

Don't hate it but I don't see a reason to get Green at this point, with his lower back issues, if we also have Grant, Watford, Little, and Winslow on the team.
We need a good scoring forward more IMO

 

[RR7]

I do wonder if an option with the TPE could be to help another team out of the LT, to gain additional assets for ourselves. Dallas, Denver, Milwaukee, Brooklyn, and Miami all have picks in the 20s, and project to likely be in the tax next season. Can we get their pick off of them by taking on salary for a player that could fit in for us, albeit overpaid?

 

[TBpup]

^^^ That is certainly one of the options.

 

[BankTeller]

I do wonder if an option with the TPE could be to help another team out of the LT, to gain additional assets for ourselves. Dallas, Denver, Milwaukee, Brooklyn, and Miami all have picks in the 20s, and project to likely be in the tax next season. Can we get their pick off of them by taking on salary for a player that could fit in for us, albeit overpaid?

One trade I’d be on board with is Duncan Robinson + their 2022 1st for Bledsoe and our 2022 2nd. That should give them enough money to go after a Lavine or Beal in the summer after clearing $16m.

After that, you’d still have your TPE, 2 lottos, a late 1st, and Little to land two forwards. And at the very least, Robinson is an overpaid 6’8 backup 3 for the next 3 years. Personally, I don’t know any other guys among DEN/MIL/BRK/DAL/MIL I’d want to use our TPE on.

 

[RR7]

One trade I’d be on board with is Duncan Robinson + their 2022 1st for Bledsoe and our 2022 2nd. That should give them enough money to go after a Lavine or Beal in the summer after clearing $16m.

After that, you’d still have your TPE, 2 lottos, a late 1st, and Little to land two forwards. And at the very least, Robinson is an overpaid 6’8 backup 3 for the next 3 years. Personally, I don’t know any other guys among DEN/MIL/BRK/DAL/MIL I’d want to use our TPE on.

Unfortunately, to match Robinson with Bledsoe, we would have to guarantee his salary for next season, which eliminates any savings for them. It'd have to be Robinson into the TPE to do them any benefit.

 

[blazerfan11]

Harrison Barnes would be a fantastic fit for the Blazers wouldn't he?

This season, he's shooting 41% on three pointers, taking 6 free throws a game hitting them at a rate of 83%, and has a true shooting percentage of 63%. He's only missed 5 games.

He takes 11 shots per game compared to 15 shots per game for Jerami Grant.
He's better than Jeremy Grant in all of the qualitative stats except free throws where they are the same at 83%.

 

[SheedSoNasty]

Harrison Barnes would be a fantastic fit for the Blazers wouldn't he?

This season, he's shooting 41% on three pointers, taking 6 free throws a game hitting them at a rate of 83%, and has a true shooting percentage of 63%. He's only missed 5 games.

He takes 11 shots per game compared to 15 shots per game for Jerami Grant.
He's better than Jeremy Grant in all of the qualitative stats except free throws where they are the same at 83%.

How does Barnes’ defense compare?

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Harrison Barnes would be a fantastic fit for the Blazers wouldn't he?

This season, he's shooting 41% on three pointers, taking 6 free throws a game hitting them at a rate of 83%, and has a true shooting percentage of 63%. He's only missed 5 games.

He takes 11 shots per game compared to 15 shots per game for Jerami Grant.
He's better than Jeremy Grant in all of the qualitative stats except free throws where they are the same at 83%.

Yes, I'd rather have Barnes than Grant. Although I wouldn't give up a lottery pick for either.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Unfortunately, to match Robinson with Bledsoe, we would have to guarantee his salary for next season, which eliminates any savings for them. It'd have to be Robinson into the TPE to do them any benefit.

Just another reason that Clippers trade was so stupid.

 

[illmatic99]

Yes, I'd rather have Barnes than Grant. Although I wouldn't give up a lottery pick for either.

Neither impacts winning all that much

 

[blazerkor]

Neither impacts winning all that much

I think the last sample that we had of Grant as a third option which is what I'd have to assume he'd be behind Dame and Ant or maybe even an option 3b behind Nurk, had a huge impact on Denver. Barnes has also had a big impact on winning teams. The fact is that neither of these guys has had the type of stars around them that allow them to do the things they're best at. I think both if given an opportunity again at contributing to a winner would in fact be big time difference makers. That's when we're looking at offense. Anyone looking at these guys defensive stats has to know that they are extremely skewed by the success of their teams and the kind of defensive assignments they are getting without a lot of help. Barnes seems to have slowed a little from the time that he was considered a defensive specialist early in his career but I do think he would still have a positive impact on our ability to get wins in the regular season and more importantly the playoffs.

All of that said, these two aren't who I hope we would end up with as our biggest roster upgrade.