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oh, this crazy bitch again? lol. good luck with that.
 
Keep on putting your faith in these totally unreliable crazies.
 
"I am filing this on behalf of every woman who has ever been harassed, assaulted, silenced, or spoken up only to be shamed, fired, ridiculed and belittled. No person in this country should be above the law – including the president."

Like I said, good luck with that. This lady is clearly mentally ill.
 
I never know what to think about these things. A) If anyone is raped or sexually harassed, etc., it's paramount to a good society that they are encouraged to tell the truth, without fear of being shamed. B) If a person lies about being raped or molested or sexually abused, there definitely need to be ramifications for that. C) I don't think a picture of being together 30 years ago proves much, I'm not even sure it means Trump was lying on this occasion. I'm sure someone could pull up a picture of all of us talking to or having some interaction with someone we don't really know... I've been to parties in college, with people if asked about today I wouldn't have any clue whatsoever who they are...

To address some of the posts above, it's not so much putting my faith in either party here, but I want the facts to come out. Which unfortunately if it was 25-30 years ago, "facts" will be very hard to come by.

I hope if anything happened to her, that he pays for it.
 
I never know what to think about these things. A) If anyone is raped or sexually harassed, etc., it's paramount to a good society that they are encouraged to tell the truth, without fear of being shamed. B) If a person lies about being raped or molested or sexually abused, there definitely need to be ramifications for that. C) I don't think a picture of being together 30 years ago proves much, I'm not even sure it means Trump was lying on this occasion. I'm sure someone could pull up a picture of all of us talking to or having some interaction with someone we don't really know... I've been to parties in college, with people if asked about today I wouldn't have any clue whatsoever who they are...

To address some of the posts above, it's not so much putting my faith in either party here, but I want the facts to come out. Which unfortunately if it was 25-30 years ago, "facts" will be very hard to come by.

I hope if anything happened to her, that he pays for it.

People, in general, hold the POTUS and other officials to a higher standard, and if not, they should.

This is by no means the first time Trump flat out claimed he never met someone or that he does not know them, when in fact, he had. He really should learn to choose his words more wisely because he obviously does not know how.
 
People, in general, hold the POTUS and other officials to a higher standard, and if not, they should.

This is by no means the first time Trump flat out claimed he never met someone or that he does not know them, when in fact, he had. He really should learn to choose his words more wisely because he obviously does not know how.
If he did it, if he actually knew her we have a reason to be upset. If their only meeting was at some party in the '90s, sure we can say that because he's POTUS he should never use absolute statements I guess? I told my wife flat out that I hadn't met someone, turned out I had, glad she didn't divorce me because I didn't know who she was talking about. Just think we should wait with this stuff for facts to come out about what happened. Again a picture together 30 years ago doesn't prove much to me.
 
"I am filing this on behalf of every woman who has ever been harassed, assaulted, silenced, or spoken up only to be shamed, fired, ridiculed and belittled. No person in this country should be above the law – including the president."

That's what she said. The difference is....he was the President.

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That's what she said. The difference is....he was the President.

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read Monica Lewinski's website and see how she feels about it...in her case it was consensual...in Trump's...not other than the playboy bunny and the stripper
 
read Monica Lewinski's website and see how she feels about it...in her case it was consensual...in Trump's...not other than the playboy bunny and the stripper

Oral Office consenualism. Riiight
 
Not sure why Trump denies anything anymore when just saying yeah I did and you can't do anything about it, has worked so well for him.

He could just say yeah I grabbed her by the pussy and nothing will happen
 
If he did it, if he actually knew her we have a reason to be upset. If their only meeting was at some party in the '90s, sure we can say that because he's POTUS he should never use absolute statements I guess? I told my wife flat out that I hadn't met someone, turned out I had, glad she didn't divorce me because I didn't know who she was talking about. Just think we should wait with this stuff for facts to come out about what happened. Again a picture together 30 years ago doesn't prove much to me.

The difference is that Trump has a history of such behavior and flat out lying about it, it's what he does. He's such a pathological liar I find it hard to believe anything that comes out of his mouth. This piece of shit paid a porn star to have sex with him while his wife was pregnant with their child, but swore he didn't, and then paid the woman off not to tell. And he did this with at least one other woman as well.

Sorry, but I'm much more inclined to give this latest female the benefit of the doubt than I am Pinocchio.
 
Sorry, but I'm much more inclined to give this latest female the benefit of the doubt than I am Pinocchio.

While Pinocchio is resurrected at the end of the book/movie when the fairy decides that he was, after all, brave and true despite his many transgressions - I am afraid that I have no such hope for the governor of mother Russia's north-american territories.
 
I wonder if this country is ever going to be able to have a “conventional” presidency again. It seems like as soon as the other side takes office, the right is going to be out for vengeance and out will come the scandals, inquiries, lawsuits etc. much like what we’re seeing now. I’m not saying Trump is innocent of all the shit he gets accused of, but a fair portion of it is bullshit. I just wonder if this is what the presidency is going to be from now on, regardless of party. Just a soap opera to keep people from paying attention to all the fucked up shit that’s really going on. I bet all the corporatists and Wall Street scumbags love this shit. It’s like party time cuz mom and dad aren’t home.
 
The difference is that Trump has a history of such behavior and flat out lying about it, it's what he does. He's such a pathological liar I find it hard to believe anything that comes out of his mouth. This piece of shit paid a porn star to have sex with him while his wife was pregnant with their child, but swore he didn't, and then paid the woman off not to tell. And he did this with at least one other woman as well.

Sorry, but I'm much more inclined to give this latest female the benefit of the doubt than I am Pinocchio.
Waiting for facts isnt giving the benefit of the doubt though. I know nothing about this lady, she could be a liar too. Who knows, but I hope we find the truth.
 
While Pinocchio is resurrected at the end of the book/movie when the fairy decides that he was, after all, brave and true despite his many transgressions - I am afraid that I have no such hope for the governor of mother Russia's north-american territories.

Well said, very well said.
 
Waiting for facts isnt giving the benefit of the doubt though. I know nothing about this lady, she could be a liar too. Who knows, but I hope we find the truth.
Facts mean nothing to neither Trump nor his minions anyway because they are either covered up or denied or ignored or labeled "fake news" or "alternative facts."
 
Facts mean nothing to neither Trump nor his minions anyway because they are either covered up or denied or ignored or labeled "fake news" or "alternative facts."
Sure but they can matter to you and I. I dont like Trump either and heck I wouldnt give him the benefit of the doubt, or be at all shocked if he did this and has many women out there who have had similar awful experiences at his hands, but you’re upset that his “minions” are letting their feelings get in the way of facts and truth, we can do the same in instances like this or we can desire the truth.
 

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