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Shit is poppin' in the middle east.
 
Benjamin Ladin needs to go into hiding.
 
Did they throw "his" body in the ocean too?
 
Trump sold a billion dollars worth of arms to the Saudis when he first was elected....now he can sell more..people buy that shit to use it and war is profitable for some....clowntown
 
In the 1980s Bid Laden was financed by the United States Government. The Bush and Bin Laden families were good friends.
 
jonnyboy said:
In 2019 ISIS was funded by the United States.
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Not saying you are incorrect, but that is a big accusation. Evidence? I would be interested to read something about that claim.
 
Shaboid said:
Not saying you are incorrect, but that is a big accusation. Evidence? I would be interested to read something about that claim.
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The Obama administration started funding the “Syrian rebels” or “Syrian government opposition” around 8 years ago.

Syrian rebels = ISIS

This is pretty common knowledge for those who dig even a little bit, the government doesn’t even deny it at this point. Trump criticized the policy but I don’t know if it’s stopped at this point. It may be, so I may be wrong about the 2019 part. But nonetheless, ISIS fighters are still running around the Middle East with American made weapons that were air dropped by American planes. You are welcome to research any of this info, it’s out there and it’s pretty mainstream at this point. Look up some YouTube videos of GoPro footage taken off dead ISIS soldiers, you’ll see a lot of first-person footage staring down the sights of an American made m16.
 
You guys know Osama and Hamza are on some beach some where drinking mai tais
 
jonnyboy said:
The Obama administration started funding the “Syrian rebels” or “Syrian government opposition” around 8 years ago.

Syrian rebels = ISIS

This is pretty common knowledge for those who dig even a little bit, the government doesn’t even deny it at this point. Trump criticized the policy but I don’t know if it’s stopped at this point. It may be, so I may be wrong about the 2019 part. But nonetheless, ISIS fighters are still running around the Middle East with American made weapons that were air dropped by American planes. You are welcome to research any of this info, it’s out there and it’s pretty mainstream at this point. Look up some YouTube videos of GoPro footage taken off dead ISIS soldiers, you’ll see a lot of first-person footage staring down the sights of an American made m16.
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So no evidence. Got it.

I have read, listened to, and seen a lot about the Syrian conflict and it is a bit insulting to assume that I haven't "dug a little bit". If this info is so mainstream, please provide. Syrian rebels does not solely equal ISIS. It is very complex. It is a "civil war" with many different actors. Sadly, all sides are probably using American made weapons in one form or another.

I have an open mind and would be more than happy to read more if you would be so inclined to provide actual proof.
 
Shaboid said:
So no evidence. Got it.

I have read, listened to, and seen a lot about the Syrian conflict and it is a bit insulting to assume that I haven't "dug a little bit". If this info is so mainstream, please provide. Syrian rebels does not solely equal ISIS. It is very complex. It is a "civil war" with many different actors. Sadly, all sides are probably using American made weapons in one form or another.

I have an open mind and would be more than happy to read more if you would be so inclined to provide actual proof.
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Actually, the U.S. only supported the anti ISIS, anti Syrian government rebels and the Kurds. To say that we supported ISIS is wildly off mark and shows an ignorance on what's been going on.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2019/09/14/a-recipe-for-100-oil/#118c8a2a4dbb
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"The difference is that production in the U.S. and Russia is diversified across numerous producers, and across a much larger geographical area. Saudi Arabia's production is from a single entity -- Saudi Aramco. Further, Saudi Arabia moves and transports a large fraction of the world's production through relatively small geographical areas. That makes it extremely vulnerable to attack."

-Its politically impossible to set up independent oil pricing for only our country because a world barrel price average is vastly profitable for producers with US connections. Why would there be effort to help the middle income or poor citizen? IMO
 
Shaboid said:
So no evidence. Got it.

I have read, listened to, and seen a lot about the Syrian conflict and it is a bit insulting to assume that I haven't "dug a little bit". If this info is so mainstream, please provide. Syrian rebels does not solely equal ISIS. It is very complex. It is a "civil war" with many different actors. Sadly, all sides are probably using American made weapons in one form or another.

I have an open mind and would be more than happy to read more if you would be so inclined to provide actual proof.
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If you get insulted when people tell you to “dig a little bit” then maybe you shouldn’t demand they do research for you. Sorry to be snarky, but every time a point gets brought up that isn’t in the national news feed people here scoff and act like you’re claiming Bigfoot exists. When I waste my time digging up facts to present here, people just attack the source, It’s just never ending and not worth the time. I made a claim that I feel is true, if you don’t agree you don’t have to and if you want to look into it, feel free.
ISIS and other extremists are a huge part of the faction that is fighting Assad’s government, when we arm “the opposition” those weapons fall into the hands of ISIS and other jihadist groups that will likely turn them on us in the future. It’s the blueprint for what happened in Afghanistan. We armed the taliban to fight the soviets and 15 years later those weapons were turned on us.
There’s no single news story that is going to make you think critically about the topic. Look at what’s happened in the past and how it parallels what’s going on today.
We can disagree now, but when all the bits and pieces fall back together we’ll be in another war fighting people we held up in the past. That is my opinion, but it is based on a handful of simple truths that come from all across the board, not from a single article I can link to.
 
jonnyboy said:
If you get insulted when people tell you to “dig a little bit” then maybe you shouldn’t demand they do research for you. Sorry to be snarky, but every time a point gets brought up that isn’t in the national news feed people here scoff and act like you’re claiming Bigfoot exists. When I waste my time digging up facts to present here, people just attack the source, It’s just never ending and not worth the time. I made a claim that I feel is true, if you don’t agree you don’t have to and if you want to look into it, feel free.
ISIS and other extremists are a huge part of the faction that is fighting Assad’s government, when we arm “the opposition” those weapons fall into the hands of ISIS and other jihadist groups that will likely turn them on us in the future. It’s the blueprint for what happened in Afghanistan. We armed the taliban to fight the soviets and 15 years later those weapons were turned on us.
There’s no single news story that is going to make you think critically about the topic. Look at what’s happened in the past and how it parallels what’s going on today.
We can disagree now, but when all the bits and pieces fall back together we’ll be in another war fighting people we held up in the past. That is my opinion, but it is based on a handful of simple truths that come from all across the board, not from a single article I can link to.
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By most accounts, there is not a single faction fighting Assad. Yes, some of the rebels are bad guys. Maybe all of them are. But they don't all have the same motivations, and they aren't all ISIS.
We helped the British fight the Germans, and the British haven't turned on us yet. It doesn't always work out the way you suggest.

barfo
 
jonnyboy said:
If you get insulted when people tell you to “dig a little bit” then maybe you shouldn’t demand they do research for you. Sorry to be snarky, but every time a point gets brought up that isn’t in the national news feed people here scoff and act like you’re claiming Bigfoot exists. When I waste my time digging up facts to present here, people just attack the source, It’s just never ending and not worth the time. I made a claim that I feel is true, if you don’t agree you don’t have to and if you want to look into it, feel free.
ISIS and other extremists are a huge part of the faction that is fighting Assad’s government, when we arm “the opposition” those weapons fall into the hands of ISIS and other jihadist groups that will likely turn them on us in the future. It’s the blueprint for what happened in Afghanistan. We armed the taliban to fight the soviets and 15 years later those weapons were turned on us.
There’s no single news story that is going to make you think critically about the topic. Look at what’s happened in the past and how it parallels what’s going on today.
We can disagree now, but when all the bits and pieces fall back together we’ll be in another war fighting people we held up in the past. That is my opinion, but it is based on a handful of simple truths that come from all across the board, not from a single article I can link to.
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I wasn't insulted, your response was just disrespectful, assuming that i haven't read a thing. You've already admitted that your original claim may be untrue. That was what I asked for evidence about. You assume that I "haven't dug in deep" and "don't think critically about" this topic, which is an insult, in my opinion. Not really constructive to have a conversation about something I think could be.
 
barfo said:
By most accounts, there is not a single faction fighting Assad. Yes, some of the rebels are bad guys. Maybe all of them are. But they don't all have the same motivations, and they aren't all ISIS.
We helped the British fight the Germans, and the British haven't turned on us yet. It doesn't always work out the way you suggest.

barfo
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The British weren’t cutting our heads off at the same time either.
 
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