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What about abstract walls?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Mexico will pay for those.
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Hell, I think they pay every year.

I can't imagine how a country like Mexico, endowed like almost no other with being in a prime place where it is simply beautify. And It is!
Damn! A man can wake up there every morning and praise the lord for another wonderful day in such a glorious place.

But it is squandered, the people are dirt poor, ready and able to work, but oh so poorly lead. It is damn near inconceivable how poorly managed the place really is.

Why is it that I have to ask if it is safe to bring the Marazul to some Island in Mexico. How fucking dumb can it be, to make the place so inhospitable that other people in the world can not feel safe in coming there to enjoy one of the best of Gods gifts to men in this world. They possess the best of resource but the people gain nothing due to extremely poor leadership. So poor is the leadership that the people can only see
hope in coming to work in the USA for the most menial of work.

In Channel Islands harbor, the place was very well run, almost all of the staff in the marina are Hispanic. Very nice people, very likable. Same with the Shipyard there, damn good folks. But!!!! Why the fuck are they here? Mexico is even better for the MarAzul Why can't I go there safely
and they are doing well there???
 
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We will waste $5billion on a wall and they will use ladders and dig tunnels. Not stopping anyone.
 
As an old guy that grew up in a strong Union democratic family, it used to be that liberals & Caesar Chavez didn't want to tolerate illegal immigration because of the impact on labor/wages. Even Chavez sent is cartel to the border to beat the hell out of those trying to enter illegally, because his union was at stake.
How things have changed, not just because of industries loving the lower cost labor but the ability to allow illegals to vote with ID, which keeps the lobbyist of both parties turning their heads and the extreme social left promoting open borders. The liberal party I grew up with sure has changed!
 
Hoopguru said:
As an old guy that grew up in a strong Union democratic family, it used to be that liberals & Caesar Chavez didn't want to tolerate illegal immigration because of the impact on labor/wages. Even Chavez sent is cartel to the border to beat the hell out of those trying to enter illegally, because his union was at stake.
How things have changed, not just because of industries loving the lower cost labor but the ability to allow illegals to vote with ID, which keeps the lobbyist of both parties turning their heads and the extreme social left promoting open borders. The liberal party I grew up with sure has changed!
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Very few people actually support open borders. This is about priorities and cost/benefit analysis.
 
Hoopguru said:
Oh I know. To me a wall doesn't make since but if barriers in selected places help and its worth the added cost, Im not opposed. And I don't think either side is, really to a degree, its all stinky politics.
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There is already fencing/ barriers in strategic locations. Might need some upgrading and repairs but nowhere near 5.8 billion which is only about 15-20% of the cost for trumps wall. House and Senate are allocating 1,3 bil and there is still 1bil left over from the previous budget that hasn't been used. Trump refuses to budge and open the government. Trump is like negotiating with a terrorist.
 
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Chris Craig said:
We will waste $5billion on a wall and they will use ladders and dig tunnels. Not stopping anyone.
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In future years that $5 Billion would swell to $30 Billion. Most of that money would go down a rat hole.
 
Hoopguru said:
As an old guy that grew up in a strong Union democratic family, it used to be that liberals & Caesar Chavez didn't want to tolerate illegal immigration because of the impact on labor/wages. Even Chavez sent is cartel to the border to beat the hell out of those trying to enter illegally, because his union was at stake.
How things have changed, not just because of industries loving the lower cost labor but the ability to allow illegals to vote with ID, which keeps the lobbyist of both parties turning their heads and the extreme social left promoting open borders. The liberal party I grew up with sure has changed!
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bodyman5000 and 1 said:
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Very well stated and very true of the impact because elites have turned their heads to this unbalanced issue for many years.
Legal immigration is the only way to keep a balance.
His comments about how hard of workers the illegals are and the negative impact thieve had by leaving their countries makes since to me also.

Just because someone advocates for a balanced immigration policy doesn't make a person racist or a Nazi, is just common since and good management practice.
 
Hoopguru said:
Very well stated and very true of the impact because elites have turned their heads to this unbalanced issue for many years.
Legal immigration is the only way to keep a balance.
His comments about how hard of workers the illegals are and the negative impact thieve had by leaving their countries makes since to me also.

Just because someone advocates for a balanced immigration policy doesn't make a person racist or a Nazi, is just common since and good management practice.
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First excuse by liberals.....illegals only do jobs Americans won't.

They'll see this video and say....Meh, shoulda went to college.
 
Lanny said:
In future years that $5 Billion would swell to $30 Billion. Most of that money would go down a rat hole.
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That's one of the bigger scams now as Trump is acting like all he needs is 5.8 billion where as in reality, a wall will cost well north of 20 billion. If he will shut down the government now, who knows what sort of hissy fit he will throw and who he will jeopardize to hold the nation hostage again when he needs even more money.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
First excuse by liberals.....illegals only do jobs Americans won't.

They'll see this video and say....Meh, shoulda went to college.
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what excuse does Trump have for hiring illegals at his property? Is it the "do what I say and not what I do defense"? lol. Major hypocrite you support.
 
Hoopguru said:
Because the Barrier works. Nothing new, both parties over the years have agreed that a barrier /fencing would deter illegal crossings and CNN's star reporter is confirming that does indeed work.
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It does?

 
It's a shame when you can get more news from comedy than the actual news...

Trump first said the wall was gonna be 4 billion. His own words swelled that number to 25 billion. Look here at 4:07:

 
CupWizier said:
what excuse does Trump have for hiring illegals at his property? Is it the "do what I say and not what I do defense"? lol. Major hypocrite you support.
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Excuse to me? None.

Excuse to everyone else?

Oh I don't know maybe something about the politicans of which he wasn't one the last 40 years have turned a blind eye to illegals coming here stealing jobs and the industry he hired them in is pretty much dominated by illegals.

The liberal logic that now only cares about the illegals Trump hired is insane.
 
riverman said:
do what I say not what I do is Trump's hypocrisy not liberal insanity....nice try though..your post is classic Trumpspeak
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Nope. Your post is classic confirmation bias.

If the painter in my video ran for President against Hillary and he admitted that he had to hire illegals to compete for jobs and he wanted to FIX the system that he says forced his hand he would get my vote even if that makes him a hypocrite.

Hillary wasn't gonna do jack shit about it anyway unless 90s Hillary is the way she would have governed.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Since you just want to cherry pick the last line and ignore the substance.
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Trumpspeak….it was spin not substance....what if a painter did it? c'mon man.....spin is spin...cherry pickers are great for painting houses though...makes gutter work real easy
 
riverman said:
Trumpspeak….it was spin not substance....what if a painter did it? c'mon man.....spin is spin...
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What spin? I don't hire people to do my lawn in Vegas because I know they will likely be illegals.

So to me there is no excuse as I said. Not spinning anything.

Now, where I can be a hypocrite like Trump with illegals is buying stuff from Amazon and Wal-Mart. I don't want to because they hurt small businesses but I'm too much of a penny pincher to buy the same cheap Chinese crap for more somewhere else.

I'll pay more for American goods if I can find them but good luck with that.
 
CupWizier said:
what excuse does Trump have for hiring illegals at his property? Is it the "do what I say and not what I do defense"? lol. Major hypocrite you support.
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In all fairness, Trump is not a Bodyman favorite.
 
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