Trying to grab Pek this summer

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I was just looking at Minny's salary and it doesn't look like they would be in trouble if they match a 13 mil offer for Pek. Currently without Pek; they will be under the cap by 11 million. But if they renounce Cunningham and Stiemsma; they will be 16 million under cap.

They would basically match and still be under cap by 3 million. I think the only way to pry Pek off their hands is offering around 14-15 million. I just don't think he's worth that amount. That's more than Aldridge!
 
I don't think we have that amount to offer. I know the true numbers won't be known until summer but last I heard is we will be lucky to have 13.5 MIL. Unless the cap goes up A LOT then I don't think we can come close to that huge offer.

What is MAX capped at now though? I think it lowered.

Regardless I think MIN matches. Going to be moving on to Plan B (if we have one).
 
I don't think we have that amount to offer. I know the true numbers won't be known until summer but last I heard is we will be lucky to have 13.5 MIL. Unless the cap goes up A LOT then I don't think we can come close to that huge offer.

What is MAX capped at now though? I think it lowered.

Regardless I think MIN matches. Going to be moving on to Plan B (if we have one).

Yeah Pek would be a great pick up for us but I just don't see it happening. For one Khan has such a hard on for the Blazer organization. He would match, even if it locks his team because he wouldn't want the Blazers to get the better of him. He is one of the weirdest GMs I've seen in ages.
 
I don't think we have that amount to offer. I know the true numbers won't be known until summer but last I heard is we will be lucky to have 13.5 MIL. Unless the cap goes up A LOT then I don't think we can come close to that huge offer.

What is MAX capped at now though? I think it lowered.

Regardless I think MIN matches. Going to be moving on to Plan B (if we have one).

According to storyteller, the cap should be at 60 mm and would give Portland around 16 mm in cap space....assuming we don't have a lottery pick cap hold
 
According to storyteller, the cap should be at 60 mm and would give Portland around 16 mm in cap space....assuming we don't have a lottery pick cap hold

That means we need to make the playoffs to obtain more cap space dammit!!!!
 
According to storyteller, the cap should be at 60 mm and would give Portland around 16 mm in cap space....assuming we don't have a lottery pick cap hold


Storyteller is damn good at this so I will trust him. Olshey said 13-14 but he isn't the true numbers guy (I assume he talked to the POR cap guy however).
 
Storyteller is damn good at this so I will trust him. Olshey said 13-14 but he isn't the true numbers guy (I assume he talked to the POR cap guy however).

I think it has more to do with the number according to what it is now (56.5 mil). He can't say We have 16 million; when the actual cap hasn't been released.
 
Storyteller is damn good at this so I will trust him. Olshey said 13-14 but he isn't the true numbers guy (I assume he talked to the POR cap guy however).

Ya, Olshey is right as well. Dave's included the cap going up and no draft pick
 
So does anyone recall exact numbers of what we offered Hibbert? I would assume that would be Max we could offer Pek as well.
 
So does anyone recall exact numbers of what we offered Hibbert? I would assume that would be Max we could offer Pek as well.

58,365,563 for 4 years.

Starting salary of about 13.7
 
4 year 58 sounds right. No idea how that was structured though?


Nice RR7. There you go
 
I thought this was a thread about grabbing somebody's pecker in July!
 
I sure hope POR doesn't pay $13mil/year for Pekovic.....
 
I sure hope POR doesn't pay $13mil/year for Pekovic.....

agreed. I think AL Jefferson would potentially come cheaper, and offers the exact same game, but better rebounding. I want someone who can play defense alongside Aldridge, personally. Pek can not.
 
agreed. I think AL Jefferson would potentially come cheaper, and offers the exact same game, but better rebounding. I want someone who can play defense alongside Aldridge, personally. Pek can not.

I am down with Al Jeff. I would also take him over Pek. Seems most of the rest of the board doesn't like him all that much though. Don't understand why. Utah is deep so him putting up the numbers he does is impressive (even if they are down slightly from years' past - goes back to the deep thing again).
 
I am down with Al Jeff. I would also take him over Pek. Seems most of the rest of the board doesn't like him all that much though. Don't understand why. Utah is deep so him putting up the numbers he does is impressive (even if they are down slightly from years' past - goes back to the deep thing again).

I don't really care for him all that much, either. Was just throwing him out there, though, as a similar type of player. If most would not want Jefferson, then there's really not a great reason to go all in on Pek.
 
agreed. I think AL Jefferson would potentially come cheaper, and offers the exact same game, but better rebounding. I want someone who can play defense alongside Aldridge, personally. Pek can not.

You say Pek can not play defense, but metion you would prefer Al Jefferson.

I am confused.

Neither one protect the rim.

I dunno. I am not big on making a run at Jefferson. BUT, if you are right that he can be obtained at a cheaper price than Pek, we should give a look at Big Al.

What do you think he can be had for? He will be 28, the age when most agents desperately want to cash in on the final (or only) monster contract of a career.

I doubt your idea of "cheap" is in fact cheap.

But sure, I would rather much rather have Al at $10mil per than Pek at $14 mil.
 
Sorry, I had it in my head, but didn't type it out well. No, Jefferson not a good defender either. Should have been more clear. Didn't mean it as an endorsement for Jefferson.
 
What's so great about Pek?

That was my next question.

Why are we supposed to be hot for Pek?

Dude is 27. Ok. So no upside.

He is an efficient scorer in the paint.

Yeah, but so is Milsap and many others.

Is he an enforcer? No.

Is he a rim protector? No.

Is he a rebounding monster? No.

What do the Blazers need at Center?

Short of snagging an All-Star center that is very good at several things, I think the Blazers need a rim protector (which is why they went after Hibbert), and/or they need an excellent defensive rebounder (which is whey they went after Hibbert).

One of those is good, both is better, and best of all would add having a bit of an offensive game so the team is not playing 4 on 5 at the offensive end.

Pek doesn't qualify as a rim protector or a rebounder. At least Big Al can rebound (as well as play offense).
 
Plus with all that said we can go to all the work of trying to sign Pek and then MIN can match. At least Al Jeff is unrestricted.
 
What's so great about Pek?

Well this is the scouting report.

Scouting report
+ Overpowering, wrecking ball of a big man who plays with unbridled physicality.
+ Good scorer around the basket. Draws fouls and can catch. Brutal ball handler.
+ Poor defensive rebounder. Competes on defense but doesn't move well.

Analysis
On a per-minute basis, the NBA leader in points in the paint in 2011-12 was not Dwight Howard. It was not LeBron James or Blake Griffin or Andrew Bynum.

It was Nikola Pekovic, and that fact underscores just how good he was in his second pro season.

I understand the reluctance to give him the most-improved award since he didn't play a full season, but it's worth noting that Pekovic made the single biggest PER improvement in more than two decades. Pekovic's double-digit jump from rotation afterthought in 2010-11 to vital cog in 2011-12 was more than a point better than the next-largest leap, by Miami's Dwyane Wade in 2008-09.

His value could be seen immediately when an injury ended his season -- for all the talk of how Ricky Rubio's demise affected the Wolves, the loss of Pekovic at nearly the same time hurt them just as badly.

The most important development for Pekovic was to get him to stop fouling on every play, and he underwent a rather dramatic transformation in that regard. After leading the league with a shocking 8.16 personals per 40 minutes as a rookie, he fell to 3.51 last season -- one of the lower rates among centers. His other big weakness, turnovers, also became much less of an issue. That went hand in hand, as many of the fouls were offensive fouls from illegal screens and his road-grader-in-reverse method of posting up.

Eliminating turnovers left him free to do what he does well, finish around the basket and rebound. Pekovic averaged a point every two minutes while converting 65.9 percent of his shots in the basket area; he also helped himself with a 74.3 percent mark from the free throw line. He made only six shots outside 10 feet all season, but his free throw mark suggests he could convert short-range jumpers as well. Pekovic's rebound numbers, a big disappointment in his rookie campaign, also proved very solid.

Defensively, Pekovic doesn't move particularly well, nor does he block shots, but he's learned how to be physical without fouling and his size really helps in post defense. Minnesota gave up 3.3 points per 100 possessions more with him on the court, but he's so valuable offensively that it's a minor price to pay.

I think he is a dude that can take up a ton of space in the paint. We are one of the worst rebounding teams in the league; but more importantly, we have a hard time boxing out. HAVING a strong guy down low to clog the paint and make it hard for guards to penetrate and score around the rim is a huge benefit.
 

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