u just know yanks r winnin # 28th

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...I know the answer, but does he?....Wins, probably one of the very worst stats to gauge a pitcher.
 
I would assume it has to do with run support, pretty much why Felix Hernandez has only won over 15 games once. However, to his credit he did have 15 QS so just over half of his starts that season.
 
...very good grasshopper...now explain why you chose wins as a barometer?...and why Hughes' QSs and other stats from 4 years ago have to do with now?

...nevermind, don't bother.
 
Rick2583 said:
Well when he responds why don't you educate him. Why should I have all the fun?
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...did you notice today's edit on post #10?

...evidently he doesn't realize he can't edit where you and I quoted him. DOH!!! (Homer Simpson voice)
 
yankeesince59 said:
...did you notice today's edit on post #10?

...evidently he doesn't realize he can't edit where you and I quoted him. DOH!!! (Homer Simpson voice)
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I just saw that. But to his credit he did know how Hughes won 18 games so maybe he's not all bad. And we got ourselves a new poster which is always a plus.
 
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Rick2583 said:
I just saw that. But to his credit he did know how Hughes won 18 games so maybe he's not all bad. And we got ourselves a new poster which is always a plus.
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Yah not hard to figure out, he pitched 6 innings gave up 2-3 runs per and let the bull pen finish the job.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...very good grasshopper...now explain why you chose wins as a barometer?...and why Hughes' QSs and other stats from 4 years ago have to do with now?

...nevermind, don't bother.
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Wins were introduced by someone else, I was more concerned with how his whip and era compared. Hughes stats from 4 years ago show the problem with getting too hyped up about a young pitcher like Nova.

The whole point was initially I do not think this team has enough SP to win #28. I could be wrong Kuroda should stay solid, CC could should bounce back, Tanaka could dominate and Nova can continue to improve on last year with Pineda or Phelps could emerge as a solid #5. Personally, I just don't see all it happening.
 
cmeese47 said:
Yah not hard to figure out, he pitched 6 innings gave up 2-3 runs per and let the bull pen finish the job.
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Sorry for busting your chops. FWIW: the year Hughes won 18 games he received one of the highest run supports in the league at over 7 runs per game. Its hard not to win with that kind of support. BTW: Welcome aboard kid.
 
...I see, ...so which teams have the pitching to win it all...and after you finish that assignment, list the teams who have the offense to win it all.


edit...and oh, since you think that 2010 is somehow more indicative than 2013 of what kind of pitcher he is you might want to peruse Hughes' game logs for that year and note how many games in which he pitched poorly, but because the Yanx scored a lot of runs, he got the "W".
 
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yankeesince59 said:
...I see, ...so which teams have the pitching to win it all...and after you finish that assignment, list the teams who have the offense to win it all.


edit...and oh, since you think that 2010 is somehow more indicative than 2013 of what kind of pitcher he is you might want to peruse Hughes' game logs for that year and note how many games in which he pitched poorly, but because the Yanx scored a lot of runs, he got the "W".
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No need to look it up he has 15 QS and an ERA over 4 yet won 18 games so at the bare minimum it would be safe to say at least 3 times he pitched bad and won and it is likely at least double that.
 
...right, even though you're not a Yank fan, you already knew Hughes' stats without copying and pasting them...got it.

...so evidently yes, there is a reason to look it up...and again, why do you point to 2010 as being a better measuring stick than 2013.
 
The point of 2010 was he made an all star game and people were hyped about what he could do next year, I feel like people are starting to lump Nova into the same hyped category.
 
...yes, because Hughes' fall from grace between 2010 and 2011 will automatically dictate what Nova does this year as compared to last.

...and I'll ask one more time, which is a better way to gauge what a pitcher does this year, using 2013 stats or using 2010 stats?
 
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Nova will NEVER have the hype that Hughes had. The guy was going to be the next great pitcher. Nova is looked at as a number 3 starter at best.

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Hughes and Joba would have been been much better as trade chips. Someone fell too in love with their own hype and rode a good thing into the baseball gutter.

Joba jumped the shark when midges infected his brain. Hughes was never the same after pulling his hammy in Texas with a no-no facing none other than our own Tex. Hughes had flashes of brilliance, but never to the extent of his promise, shark jumped. Both were an example of experimental run too long. As if they were the baseball equivalent of "too big to fail".
 
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