Up, Down, In and Out? How the west goes wild.

[Further]

This past season
1) Warriors
2) Nugs
3) Blazers
4) Snot-Rockets
5) Jazz
6) Thunder
7) Spurs
8) Clips

Missed: Kings, Lakers, Wolves, Grizz, Pelicans, Mavs and Suns.

With Bron, AD and most likely D’Angelo Russell joining the Lakes, I expect them to move up, possibly towards the top of the conference. The Mavs and Pels both have a great shot at seeing massive growth and neither would surprise me to see in the playoffs. What about Minny?

The Warriors I expect to see drop off huge, but I doubt they actually miss the playoffs.

Denver and the Blazers both stand to improve through youth growth and hopefully the Blazers get back a fully kick-ass-Nurk.

So, who moves down? How does the balance of power shift?

As Free agency kicks off, we should be able to start answering these questions in Ernest.

 

[Chris Craig]

Will the Blazers improve though. Blazers have added Bazemore, Little, and Hoard (though he is a two way) and subtracted Turner and probably three of Aminu, Hood, Curry, and Kanter. Does that make them better next season?

 

[kjironman1]

Will the Blazers improve though. Blazers have added Bazemore, Little, and Hoard (though he is a two way) and subtracted Turner and probably three of Aminu, Hood, Curry, and Kanter. Does that make them better next season?

On a couple other boards posters tend to agree with you on this. They don’t think the Blazers will be as good and they feel it was pretty much luck they did as well as they did.

 

[Chris Craig]

On a couple other boards posters tend to agree with you on this. They don’t think the Blazers will be as good and they feel it was pretty much luck they did as well as they did.

I don't think their success last season had anything to do with luck. I wonder if they will be as good next season simply for the loss of talent. I guess the Blazers aren't done yet with moves, so I will revist this question after they finish.

 

[Further]

Will the Blazers improve though. Blazers have added Bazemore, Little, and Hoard (though he is a two way) and subtracted Turner and probably three of Aminu, Hood, Curry, and Kanter. Does that make them better next season?

Good points. If Nurk were back day one at full health I would say the Blazers would likely improve but that’s not the case. And with so many unknowns it’s hard to say.

I think Simons could be a huge help but it might take many stumbles before that benefit is realized. Little- to young and unproven for any expectations this year. I love the Baz for ET swap but that’s maybe a game or two over the course of the season, not enough to really affect the standings.
I liked Curry but don’t think he helped that much last year and Hood and Kanter were fantastic in the playoffs but didn’t have much sway on the regular season.

Mo, Aminu and new signings could make giant differences. Those questions don’t seem close to being answered yet.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Will the Blazers improve though. Blazers have added Bazemore, Little, and Hoard (though he is a two way) and subtracted Turner and probably three of Aminu, Hood, Curry, and Kanter. Does that make them better next season?

They added Bazemore. Little is not going to be a difference maker as a rookie.

Blazers are gambling on a big leap by Collins and a YUGE leap by Simons. "Praying for a miracle" isn't my idea of actually having a plan! I hope Olshey makes some good moves and proves me wrong.

 

[Chris Craig]

Good points. If Nurk were back day one at full health I would say the Blazers would likely improve but that’s not the case. And with so many unknowns it’s hard to say.

I think Simons could be a huge help but it might take many stumbles before that benefit is realized. Little- to young and unproven for any expectations this year. I love the Baz for ET swap but that’s maybe a game or two over the course of the season, not enough to really affect the standings.
I liked Curry but don’t think he helped that much last year and Hood was both Hood and Kanter were fantastic in the playoffs but didn’t have much sway on the regular season.

Mo, Aminu and new signings could make giant differences. Those questions seem close to being answered yet.

It is going to make a big difference not having Nurk. The west is going to only get tougher. Simons could very well take over for Curry. The team seems to think he is ready. I hope so, if that is the direction they choose to go. Can't hide him on the bench forever. Blazers can't rely on Little, though he could surprise. Layman will be important. Though I could see someone outbidding us for him. Hood and Kanter are very valuable and will hurt to lose...Hood maybe a little less because of Bazemore, but still. Aminu I believe is gone.

 

[Chris Craig]

They added Bazemore. Little is not going to be a difference maker as a rookie.

Blazers are gambling on a big leap by Collins and a YUGE leap by Simons. "Praying for a miracle" isn't my idea of actually having a plan! I hope Olshey makes some good moves and proves me wrong.

Me too. As it stands, it will be hard to make the playoffs next year. Blazers may have to take a step back before taking a step forward.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Me too. As it stands, it will be hard to make the playoffs next year. Blazers may have to take a step back before taking a step forward.

Unless Neil has some big balls to go along with his big talk.

 

[Chris Craig]

Unless Neil has some big balls to go along with his big talk.

They better be brass

 

[Hoopguru]

Me too. As it stands, it will be hard to make the playoffs next year. Blazers may have to take a step back before taking a step forward.

Thats what many were saying last year, tough to make the poffs. It will be another horse race but around the last two turns and down the stretch we win 55 games and finish 2 seed.

 

[JoshuaHall]

Lakers
Nuggets
Jazz
Thunder
Rockets
Blazers
Warriors
Spurs
Mavs
Kings
Pelicans
Wolves
Grizzlies
Suns

No clue on the Clippers until after FA shakes out.

 

[wizenheimer]

On a couple other boards posters tend to agree with you on this. They don’t think the Blazers will be as good and they feel it was pretty much luck they did as well as they did.

there may have been some 'luck' in the playoffs, but the regular season was Portland taking care of business. I suppose you could say it was lucky the Knicks waived Kanter and that he chose Portland, but that seems like Portland making a bit of their own luck

53 wins and the WC finals does seem like a real tall order to match again next season. If they lose Kanter, Hood, Curry, and Aminu (and at this point that seems possible) that's a lot to replace with growth, a tax-MLE and a vet minimum contract or 2. I doubt the trade-off will be a positive for Portland. That's over 10 wins Portland loses (counting half a season for Nurk) if you go by winshares

then there's just how close things were for seven of the seeds. It looks like the Warriors and the Rockets will be worse. But all the other 5 playoff teams look to be better, especially if the Clippers get Kawhi. And of course, the Lakers might be really good (yuck); the Kings could be tough if they get Horford; and the Mavs might be a lot better

and you just never know how injuries are going to rewrite the script

 

[oldmangrouch]

Thats what many were saying last year, tough to make the poffs. It will be another horse race but around the last two turns and down the stretch we win 55 games and finish 2 seed.

I'm sorry, but this is nuts. Best case scenario, Nurk is 100% by mid-season. More likely, he doesn't fully recover until the last 20 games or so. If you think the Blazers improve under those circumstances....you really have no appreciation for Nurk's contribution.

 

[e_blazer]

On a couple other boards posters tend to agree with you on this. They don’t think the Blazers will be as good and they feel it was pretty much luck they did as well as they did.

Posters are sometimes idiots.

 

[CupWizier]

Unless Neil has some big balls to go along with his big talk.

Quit obsessing over Olshey's balls.

 

[kjironman1]

I don't think their success last season had anything to do with luck. I wonder if they will be as good next season simply for the loss of talent. I guess the Blazers aren't done yet with moves, so I will revist this question after they finish.

Agree. The Blazers played well in the post season and some of the moves at the trade deadline paid off. Sometimes you make your breaks. That is not luck.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Will depend heavily on the next couple of weeks. Injuries happen as well. I like our chances though to still be a playoff team and could see us taking the next step to contender.

 

[PCmor7]

They added Bazemore. Little is not going to be a difference maker as a rookie.

Blazers are gambling on a big leap by Collins and a YUGE leap by Simons. "Praying for a miracle" isn't my idea of actually having a plan! I hope Olshey makes some good moves and proves me wrong.

Yeah, but keep in mind that they see and work with Collins and Simons every day. What we think of as praying for a miracle might be very realistic growth from those who are in the know.

As far as Little not being a difference-maker, probably not. OTOH, outproducing Mo or Chief or Jake isn't exactly outproducing KD and Klay. Sometimes it's just a matter of opportunity.

 

[TBpup]

Utah adding Conley and Bogdanovic....they are going to be tough if healthy!

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Utah adding Conley and Bogdanovic....they are going to be tough if healthy!

I like Conley a lot, but his health is a concern in my opinion. I love bogdanovic, some good moves for them. The west every year is so crazy. It makes it fun though!