Vancouver Longshoremen Sabotage Terminal- Locked Out

[BLAZER PROPHET]

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/...d_grain_locks_out_longsho.html#incart_m-rpt-2

Union (read, organized crime) are long known for sabotage, murders, intimidation... and this time they seem to have been caught in the act. Considering they make well over $135,000 per year for doing little work, this may be a good thing. At some point in time the business has a right to protect its assets.

 

[PapaG]

I was supposed to have a meeting at Great Western Malting today at 11:30. Couldn't cross the picket line when I arrived at 11:10, and GWM told me we'd reschedule ASAP, that they have nothing to do with the union, and it's impacting their business. They were not happy to have their business negatively impacted, since the union has nothing to do with Gate 5, yet the main entrance was blocked. I'm going back tomorrow to try and get in, and will be filming and taking pictures of it.

 

[PapaG]

BUMP

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Whores.

Every last one of them.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I have just never understood why unions turn to thuggery, murder... whenever they want more money or to not be in charge.

 

[Eastoff]

I have just never understood why unions turn to thuggery, murder... whenever they want more money or to not be in charge.

That's not "whenever" that's "when some of them" The same could be said of cops (who I guess are a union too). Please send up a cry against the police.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

That's not "whenever" that's "when some of them" The same could be said of cops (who I guess are a union too). Please send up a cry against the police.

Well, with unions it such a consistent recurring theme.

 

[Eastoff]

Well, with unions it such a consistent recurring theme.

oh come on! don't be ridiculous. Teachers are all unionized, tell me the last time a teacher acted like a true "thug." These guys are f''ing dock workers, what do you expect?

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

oh come on! don't be ridiculous. Teachers are all unionized, tell me the last time a teacher acted like a true "thug." These guys are f''ing dock workers, what do you expect?

Sorry, my mistake... I meant to say unions like longshoreman... I wasn't referring to white collar unions.

 

[THE HCP]

It's the kind of people they are, not that they are in a union.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

It's the kind of people they are, not that they are in a union.

I will disagree on that one. It's organized crime.

 

[Eastoff]

I will disagree on that one. It's organized crime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Day_massacre_of_1937

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greensboro_massacre

yeah those unions are definitely the villains.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Day_massacre_of_1937

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greensboro_massacre

yeah those unions are definitely the villains.

You and zags are the official S2 union butt boys. Stay bent over.

 

[Eastoff]

You and zags are the official S2 union butt boys. Stay bent over.

I don't work for a union, but my brother and mom do.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I don't work for a union, but my brother and mom do.

I used to be a Teamster and then in SEIU. Neither did me any favors.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I used to be a Teamster and then in SEIU. Neither did me any favors.

Sounds like your opinion of unions is based on bad personal experiences. Others here have had good experiences being part of the union.

If unions are organized crime, then so are alot of other aspects in our society that are organized crime. Wallstreet is the organized crime in my world. Democrats are the organized crime for Denny.

 

[MickZagger]

A lot of union envy up in this bitch.

I'm ready for another raise.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

A lot of union envy up in this bitch.

I'm ready for another raise.

A poster child for union workers, you are not.

 

[MickZagger]

A poster child for union workers, you are not.

Yeah?

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Yeah, it's too bad to. There is already enough misunderstanding about unions (IMO) and you don't help.

But at least I get some amusement out of you pushing buttons . . . feel sorry for your girl if you are pissed at her.

 

[PapaG]

Couldn't get into the Port today either, but the line of cars was so long I didn't even try to go up to the gate.

Nice job shutting down business. I should just sit there tomorrow and see what they do when one of the many UPS trucks who deliver goods to the Port do tomorrow try to enter the Port. Will they allow those trucks to pass?

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

Too bad we don't kill people who try to organize unions like we taught the South Americans to do

 

[PapaG]

Too bad we don't kill people who try to organize unions like we taught the South Americans to do

Too bad ignorant posts like this that have nothing to do with this thread typify union supporters on this board.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Hard for some to imagine, but there is usually two sides to these complex situations:


The International Longshore and Warehouse Union on Thursday said a lockout of its workers at a Vancouver, Wash., grain terminal is not only based on false accusations but also violates U.S. labor laws.
United Grain Corp., a subsidiary of Japan's Mitsui & Co., on Wednesday said it was locking out workers from ILWU Local 4 after a report from a private investigator uncovered evidence that a member of the union's bargaining committee twice attempted to sabotage equipment at the terminal in December.
Officials with the union responded Wednesday by saying the charges were fabricated to justify locking out workers. The union followed-up on Thursday with a claim that the grain company's action violated labor laws by failing to bring the issue to the bargaining table.

http://www.bizjournals.com/portland..._search&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

Too bad ignorant posts like this that have nothing to do with this thread typify union supporters on this board.

No, it's too bad people in this thread are calling unions whores and criminals. I'm just slipping on that nice looking slope that ya'll set down.

But hey, if people want to have rational arguments, then fuck off right?

 

[PapaG]

Hard for some to imagine, but there is usually two sides to these complex situations:


The International Longshore and Warehouse Union on Thursday said a lockout of its workers at a Vancouver, Wash., grain terminal is not only based on false accusations but also violates U.S. labor laws.
United Grain Corp., a subsidiary of Japan's Mitsui & Co., on Wednesday said it was locking out workers from ILWU Local 4 after a report from a private investigator uncovered evidence that a member of the union's bargaining committee twice attempted to sabotage equipment at the terminal in December.
Officials with the union responded Wednesday by saying the charges were fabricated to justify locking out workers. The union followed-up on Thursday with a claim that the grain company's action violated labor laws by failing to bring the issue to the bargaining table.

http://www.bizjournals.com/portland..._search&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Yet they shut down the entire Port. There are at least 15 separate companies there. Great Western Malting has nothing to do with this, yet their business is being disrupted.

 

[PapaG]

No, it's too bad people in this thread are calling unions whores and criminals. I'm just slipping on that nice looking slope that ya'll set down.

But hey, if people want to have rational arguments, then fuck off right?

I didn't say either of those things about the union members shutting down commerce. What is your beef with me?

 

[MickZagger]

Yeah, it's too bad to. There is already enough misunderstanding about unions (IMO) and you don't help.

But at least I get some amusement out of you pushing buttons . . . feel sorry for your girl if you are pissed at her.

lol, you don't know anything about me, or my work ethic. Thanks for playing though.

 

[MickZagger]

No, it's too bad people in this thread are calling unions whores and criminals. I'm just slipping on that nice looking slope that ya'll set down.

But hey, if people want to have rational arguments, then fuck off right?

It is funny. Free medical, constant raises and job security. With no education.

There's a lot to be envious of.

 

[ABM]

It is funny. Free medical, constant raises and job security. With no education.

There's a lot to be envious of.

Leave welfare out of this.