OT Vegas Style Shooting Thwarted In Denver

[Chris Craig]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mlb-4-...s-style-shooting-all-star-game-142034642.html

A hotel employee tipped off police and three men and a woman were arrested in Denver after 16 long guns and 1000 rounds of ammunition were found in their room which overlooked the downtown area.

One of the men had just got divorced and had posted on social media he was going out in a big way.

The MLB all star game is this Tuesday and police feared they were going to carry out a mass shooting when the crowds showed up for the game.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Whoa.

Good on the hotel employee.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Should have kept it in Atlanta

 

[riverman]

another Lee Harvey Fuckhead with a gun

 

[Road Ratt]

I am torn. Sure it is a good thing that people didn't die. But, either way: Our government isn't doing anything at all about America's gun problem, expect for feeding it by keeping everyone scared of... everyone else.

 

[riverman]

I am torn. Sure it is a good thing that people didn't die. But, either way: Our government isn't doing anything at all about America's gun problem, expect for feeding it by keeping everyone scared of... everyone else.

The majority of our govt is pro gun so that's always going to be the case with the elected officials we have now

 

[Road Ratt]

The majority of our govt is pro gun so that's always going to be the case with the elected officials we have now

I wonder when democrats stopping being peace loving people. Oh yeah, at Bill Clinton.

People care, or they don't. Our U.S. congress clearly shows that they don't care, at all.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I am torn. Sure it is a good thing that people didn't die. But, either way: Our government isn't doing anything at all about America's gun problem, expect for feeding it by keeping everyone scared of... everyone else.

This is kind of a mind-f***. If this goes down with MLB’s ASG, does this gather the attention and finally highlight our gun issues (probably not)? Would these guys actually hinder the gun rights movement they are seeking to protect? But instead, with being caught, the story is now likely a blip on the radar and no real cause for concern.

What’s it going to take to admit we have a gun issue? We’re already past the point of no return.

 

[Road Ratt]

This is kind of a mind-f***. If this goes down with MLB’s ASG, does this gather the attention and finally highlight our gun issues (probably not)? Would these guys actually hinder the gun rights movement they are seeking to protect? But instead, with being caught, the story is now likely a blip on the radar and no real cause for concern.

What’s it going to take to admit we have a gun issue? We’re already past the point of no return.

So what you seem to be saying is: There is nothing that we can do about anything at all because no matter who we vote for, they don't care.

Edit: More like. "We didn't start the fire, so we might as well sit back and watch it burn".

Doing nothing keeps us right where America is stuck now.

 

[Natebishop3]

This is kind of a mind-f***. If this goes down with MLB’s ASG, does this gather the attention and finally highlight our gun issues (probably not)? Would these guys actually hinder the gun rights movement they are seeking to protect? But instead, with being caught, the story is now likely a blip on the radar and no real cause for concern.

What’s it going to take to admit we have a gun issue? We’re already past the point of no return.

Or if the media would stop immortalizing these morons, they wouldn't have a reason to "go out in a big way."

There's a reason why the media doesn't report on suicides.

 

[riverman]

So what you seem to be saying is: There is nothing that we can do about anything at all because no matter who we vote for, they don't care.

Edit: More like. "We didn't start the fire, so we might as well sit back and watch it burn".

Doing nothing keeps us right where America is stuck now.

If we could do what other countries have done like Australia, etc...we'd have done it by now...everytime there's a mass shooting they have a big jump in sales ...it's just so much money that in some ways it would be as difficult as deciding to disband the armed forces and become a neutral country....this country is way too aggressive to pull off any anti gun legislation...americans are in love with guns....not me or you but a whole lot of them won't give them up...when we stop seeing them on tv or in toy stores we'll be starting to change...as it is toy weapons are introduced at a really young age whether it's sword, gun or light sabre...we get the kids fighting young...I wouldn't allow my son to have toy guns as a child..first thing he did after college was buy a gun. That taught me something.about my approach that didn't stick..

 

[Road Ratt]

If we could do what other countries have done like Australia, etc...we'd have done it by now...everytime there's a mass shooting they have a big jump in sales ...it's just so much money that in some ways it would be as difficult as deciding to disband the armed forces and become a neutral country....this country is way too aggressive to pull off any anti gun legislation...americans are in love with guns....not me or you but a whole lot of them won't give them up

No. Our government is run by boot licking cowards who refuse to listen to Americans. Every poll shows that Americans want reasonable gun control, that includes republicans. Yet, you can't get a damn bill through congress. Because, they literally don't care. They are too beholden to their corporate donors to care.

(This actually goes for most every bill Americans want passed. They won't listen unless your bank account is in the billions, or a natural disaster forces them to look our direction)

 

[riverman]

Almost every mass shooting ends with a suicide so I'd say the media reports suicides...Robin Williams was all over the news when he hung himself

 

[Natebishop3]

reasonable gun control

People love to throw around terms like "common sense gun control" and "reasonable gun control."

What exactly does that mean?

 

[riverman]

No. Our government is run by boot licking cowards who refuse to listen to Americans. Every poll shows that Americans want reasonable gun control, that includes republicans. Yet, you can't get a damn bill through congress. Because, they literally don't care. They are too beholden to their corporate donors to care.

I don't trust any polls....but I want gun control and I don't think most republicans want gun control either but money is the greedy bastard that gets votes

 

[tlongII]

Don’t take my gun.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

The Romans took Jesus's guns and we all know how that ended.

 

[Road Ratt]

I don't trust any polls....but I want gun control and I don't think most republicans want gun control either but money is the greedy bastard that gets votes

I don't see how you can trust anything at all then. But we all must trust something. All of our information that we all trust, comes from somewhere. And when my information comes from our countries very own most trusted polls, it seems reasonable to believe them.

What I don't trust, are most people. They are way too biased towards their own party to be believed in the first place.

(Edit: Sorry, not trying to imply anything against you personally here. My posts can be a bit blunt in my truth telling though. That is just the way I am.)

 

[Natebishop3]

The Romans took Jesus's guns and we all know how that ended.

Moses and Noah showed up and stopped the Nazis from bombing Pearl Harbor?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

So what you seem to be saying is: There is nothing that we can do about anything at all because no matter who we vote for, they don't care.

Edit: More like. "We didn't start the fire, so we might as well sit back and watch it burn".

Doing nothing keeps us right where America is stuck now.

agreed. it’s a complete shit show. for the record, I don’t own a gun, never have. but I’m damn thinking about having one now. and therein lies a big piece of the problem…

 

[Natebishop3]

agreed. it’s a complete shit show. for the record, I don’t own a gun, never have. but I’m damn thinking about having one now. and therein lies a big piece of the problem…

You don't NEED a gun if you're worried about protecting yourself from the goobers out there.

The world isn't any less safe than it was before. In fact, studies show that this is the safest time to ever be alive. Social media and the news make things out to be way way way worse than they actually are.

With that said, government reach and personal freedoms seem to be at an alltime low, so it couldn't hurt to own a gun in case our social fabric completely falls apart. If COVID taught us anything, it's that we're extremely vulnerable to disease and that a lot of people are only out for themselves.

 

[ABM]

Strangely reminds me of this thread...

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/man-whats-up-with-colorado.365886/

 

[Phatguysrule]

I am torn. Sure it is a good thing that people didn't die. But, either way: Our government isn't doing anything at all about America's gun problem, expect for feeding it by keeping everyone scared of... everyone else.

America doesn't have a gun problem it has a violence and crime problem caused by lack of opportunity, which is caused by lack of access to education, healthcare, abuse of the poor by the justice system, and in general a poor social safety net.

Fix those and you'll save more lives than any gun centric solution could hope to.

 

[Phatguysrule]

We’re already past the point of no return.

Yes. It's already past the point of no return. But that's ok, because if we quit focusing on the "gun problem" and focus on stopping the violance at the source, the "gun problem" will go away as well.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I love guns, I just think I should be the only one who has them.

 

[Road Ratt]

America doesn't have a gun problem it has a violence and crime problem caused by lack of opportunity, which is caused by lack of access to education, healthcare, abuse of the poor by the justice system, and in general a poor social safety net.

Fix those and you'll safe more lives than an gun centric solution could hope to.

Our U.S. government is literally the cause of your "list of America's problems". Fix our government and just maybe America's problems go away?

 

[Phatguysrule]

Our U.S. government is literally the cause of your "list of America's problems". Fix our government and just maybe America's problems go away?

Yes.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Common sense gun control I would support.

All violent criminals having a weapons restriction on their drivers license (or equivalent ID).

Make selling or providing a gun to any restricted person (or anybody without valid state ID) a felony punishable by jail time as well as weapons restriction on ID.

This could actually get support from Republicans because there is no need for a database of gun owners, just a database of violent criminals.

All states already have this capability (I believe) so no new infrastructure would be needed. We already have a database of violent criminals.

 

[Voodoo]

No. Our government is run by boot licking cowards who refuse to listen to Americans. Every poll shows that Americans want reasonable gun control, that includes republicans. Yet, you can't get a damn bill through congress. Because, they literally don't care. They are too beholden to their corporate donors to care.

(This actually goes for most every bill Americans want passed. They won't listen unless your bank account is in the billions, or a natural disaster forces them to look our direction)

Thats a gross oversimplification of the problem, getting a change like this requires a cloture vote in the senate. In today’s world that would require 10 Republicans in the senate along with all 50 Democrats. You’re not going to get all 50 Democrats to vote on that, but you would likely get 48 of them. You would then get 0 Republicans to vote for it, so no that is a false equivalency to state both parties “don’t care”.

As with most problems in this country, there is one party interested in trying to do something about it whereas the other party isn’t. This goes for virtually every important issue from climate change, common sense gun control, taxes, the wealth inequality gap, etc.

 

[Road Ratt]

As with most problems in this country, there is one party interested in trying to do something about it whereas the other party isn’t. This goes for virtually every important issue from climate change, common sense gun control, taxes, the wealth inequality gap, etc.

Wrong. Neither party cares about America... at all. Both parties deny Americans living wages, free health care that most other industrialized nations give their citizens. America's schools constantly lack funds. Why? Both parties feed our military. It seems better to spend money dropping bombs than it is to spend that money where America really needs it.

Oh and, we drop them bombs only to feed the contracts the rich must get, so that they can keep the killing across this planet going. All in the name of capitalism, of course.

America's congress literally has the one of the lowest approval ratings on the planet. How anyone can vote for these uncaring inhumane people is beyond me.