Very Disturbing

[BLAZER PROPHET]

It's disturbing and unacceptable that hospitals would bounce around uninsured and also let them wait...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33971846/ns/health-health_care

 

[maxiep]

I'll be interested to see the number once they adjust for "other factors". The insured generally have many other advantages the uninsured don't have that aren't factored into this study.

 

[maxiep]

It's disturbing and unacceptable that hospitals would bounce around uninsured and also let them wait...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33971846/ns/health-health_care

Talk to our First Lady. As a VP for the University of Chicago Hospital System, she pioneered the policy of moving uninsured patients from the U of C emergency room to free clinics all over the South Side. I wonder how she would feel if one of her daughters was treated that way?

 

[Eastoff]

Talk to our First Lady. As a VP for the University of Chicago Hospital System, she pioneered the policy of moving uninsured patients from the U of C emergency room to free clinics all over the South Side. I wonder how she would feel if one of her daughters was treated that way?

"I sure hope these free clinics are good!"

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Talk to our First Lady. As a VP for the University of Chicago Hospital System, she pioneered the policy of moving uninsured patients from the U of C emergency room to free clinics all over the South Side. I wonder how she would feel if one of her daughters was treated that way?

Is that really true? That a warm & fuzzy leftie would ship out the uninsured and potentially bring about their death because they can't pay??

Hmmmmmmm............... that sounds a lot like the current leftie health care plan in Congress.

OK, never mind.

 

[maxiep]

Is that really true? That a warm & fuzzy leftie would ship out the uninsured and potentially bring about their death because they can't pay??

Hmmmmmmm............... that sounds a lot like the current leftie health care plan in Congress.

OK, never mind.

It looks like David Axelrod was involved, too.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1122691,CST-NWS-hosp23.article

 

[RR7]

Is that really true? That a warm & fuzzy leftie would ship out the uninsured and potentially bring about their death because they can't pay??

Hmmmmmmm............... that sounds a lot like the current leftie health care plan in Congress.

OK, never mind.

Not really. But saying it like that makes it sound scarier, doesn't it!

They "ship them out" because they are going to the emergency room for something that is not an emergency room level problem. Flooding the emergency room for illnesses creates mroe problems, because people who actually need emergency care wouldn't be getting it, and doctor's time would be wasted. So they send the uninsured individuals to nearby clinics.

As for the original article, like maxiep mentioned, I'd like to see the adjustment of "other factors". Doesn't seem like that great of an experiment if you look at it over a number of hospitals, and don't control for the different potential levels of care at those hospitals. Better hospitals will tend to have better doctors, better facilities, care, etc. Are all of the uninsured going to the same facilities? No. Not that all the insured people go to great facilities, and the uninsured not, but there's enough of a difference to make for a flawed study.

 

[Eastoff]

people also go to the emergency room because they legally cannot be turned away.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

That's why the BP Healthcare Plan would include free 24 hour clinics for people to go to.

 

[RR7]

That's why the BP Healthcare Plan would include free 24 hour clinics for people to go to.

Great idea. Sounds like what they have going on there as well. But unfortunately, people know of the ER mroe than free clinics. What the hospital is doing is bringing the people to those free clinics.

 

[maxiep]

Great idea. Sounds like what they have going on there as well. But unfortunately, people know of the ER mroe than free clinics. What the hospital is doing is bringing the people to those free clinics.

Hmm, where do you think you would get better care, at one of the world's great research hospitals or at a free clinic on the South Side of Chicago? People often aren't dumb.

 

[RR7]

My guess is a lot of the people aren't thinking about the quality of the care. They just go to what they know. And when the hospiatl deems them not necessarily an emergency, they get moved to somewhere to get them treatment more in line with their issue.