Vonleh and Ed

[Scalma]

So what happens with these two?

Both are free agents next summer and I can't see either one getting less than 10m. They're both playing themselves into legitimate contracts. Both have seemingly settled into their roles in Portland.

Can we afford to pay both of them along with Nurkic? I doubt it, especially when we just drafted two cheaper, albeit younger, options. It's the Plumlee situation all over again. He was playing the best basketball of his career when we traded him. So which one gets traded? Or do we keep both and package one of Collins/Swanigan in a bigger deal?

For me, I love Davis, but I'm going with the younger, higher ceiling guy. It would suck, but something's gotta give here.

 

[e_blazer]

Noah is history if Nurkic plays as expected and earns a big contract. I think if Olshey can figure out a way to trade Meyers for an ending contract, he can work a deal to keep Ed.

 

[ripcityboy]

Noah is history if Nurkic plays as expected and earns a big contract. I think if Olshey can figure out a way to trade Meyers for an ending contract, he can work a deal to keep Ed.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Contracts have come back to earth after that huge spike. Players like Patrick Patterson and P.J. Tucker and got MLE-type or slightly over money. I think you are over-exaggerating what is going to happen. Ed and Vonleh aren't seen as bigger bets to get money than those two guys. But I agree with most that one is kept and one isn't. I kind of lean towards wanting Ed back, crazy enough and that is with believing that Noah does make all the difference for Nurkic.

 

[BrunoSOC]

I think a trade is coming and involve one of those 2

 

[Strenuus]

Noah is history if Nurkic plays as expected and earns a big contract. I think if Olshey can figure out a way to trade Meyers for an ending contract, he can work a deal to keep Ed.

Actually, I think Ed is gone if nurk plays as expected.

I don't think it's coincidence that Nurk has been much better because of Noah. And I'm sure the Blazer brass sees that.

 

[Scalma]

Actually, I think Ed is gone if nurk plays as expected.

I don't think it's coincidence that Nurk has been much better because of Noah. And I'm sure the Blazer brass sees that.

They play well with each other and are in the same age range. They can grow together. Davis, while awesome at what he does, is maxed out as a player. Not much different than Plumlee.

 

[Strenuus]

They play well with each other and are in the same age range. They can grow together. Davis, while awesome at what he does, is maxed out as a player. Not much different than Plumlee.

Yep. I love Ed, but if we can have a combo work, you keep it.

 

[H.C.]

I'm not sure if either are traded unless they're is a player coming back which can replay the roles Davis & Vonleh are currently filling.

 

[Hobbesarable]

Yep. I love Ed, but if we can have a combo work, you keep it.

If they (Nurk & Vonleh) like playing as a combo and win, then we should keep 'em both.

 

[Scalma]

I'm not sure if either are traded unless they're is a player coming back which can replay the roles Davis & Vonleh are currently filling.

Trading Davis without taking salary back (reasonable expectation) would put us below the luxury tax line (I think.)

 

[Strenuus]

If they (Nurk & Vonleh) like playing as a combo and win, then we should keep 'em both.

That's.... what Im saying, keep nurk and noah... if we can't keep all 3 (which is what the question posed is) then that would be my option.

 

[H.C.]

Trading Davis without taking salary back (reasonable expectation) would put us below the luxury tax line (I think.)

Sure. But then there is a hole you're hoping a skinny rookie can fill or Meyers Leonard could fill.
Not to mention when Nurk gets in foul trouble like he has to start this season what do you do?
Stotts played Vonleh at Center last night. Not sure that's a recipe for short or long term success.

 

[Scalma]

Sure. But then there is a hole you're hoping a skinny rookie can fill or Meyers Leonard could fill.
Not to mention when Nurk gets in foul trouble like he has to start this season what do you do?
Stotts played Vonleh at Center last night. Not sure that's a recipe for short or long term success.

I think from a front office point of view, avoiding luxury tax payments might take precedence over having a reliable backup center for the rest of the season. Leonard getting more minutes could only help his trade value too by the way. Can't imagine it getting any lower than it is now.

And who knows, maybe a Monroe gets bought out.

 

[dviss1]

We should re-sign Ed Davis. He wants to stay. He's back to his old self. He's the best big man off the bench in the nba.

We can sign him for cheap.

 

[Scalma]

We should re-sign Ed Davis. He wants to stay. He's back to his old self. He's the best big man off the bench in the nba.

We can sign him for cheap.

How does that work?

 

[Mediocre Man]

This is a great thread.......Seriously. The complete meltdown this place will have if we give one or both of these guys for nothing will be amazing. Not sure how the money will work?

 

[H.C.]

I think from a front office point of view, avoiding luxury tax payments might take precedence over having a reliable backup center for the rest of the season. Leonard getting more minutes could only help his trade value too by the way. Can't imagine it getting any lower than it is now.

And who knows, maybe a Monroe gets bought out.

Disagree.
I think if NO puts the team in a position he did last year with having only one healthy big in Noah Vonleh. It would 100% cost him his job.

Monroe would hurt this team more than help.

 

[tlongII]

Vonleh is not worth $10 M.

 

[Trackjack]

Olshey already thinks Swanigan is better than Vonleh so I see Vonleh being on the trading block at trade deadline. But my opinion Vonleh his the better player right now. He is solid defender and solid rebounder. Now if he he gets his shot down and gives us 10-12 points a night then it would be a big mistake to let him go. Now Davis he a scrapper type ball player but I see him going somewhere else next year. I see Colin's as the back up center to Nurk. He got the rest of this year and summer to get stronger for next year.

 

[rotary111]

I wonder if Olshey still thinks Caleb is better than Noah. I'm doubting it.

 

[RickyJoe]

I would say, bring both back if it can be done on the cheap. Neither is worth a very big contract. If they want too much, well, we got Zack and Biggie.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I think Davis is definitely gone, and probably Noah too, but I guess I could see them offering him a very modest contract -- because he doesn't score at all, there are going to be very few takers on the open market.

 

[Schilly]

Vonleh can be re-signed for about what Davis and he make combined. Noah fits the timeline we are building with better than Ed does. IMO it’s not if Caleb is better than Vonleh or vice versa it’s wether Caleb can fill Ed’s role next season.

 

[PDXFonz]

I think a trade is coming and involve one of those 2

This, and I think it will be Ed

 

[Scalma]

Disagree.
I think if NO puts the team in a position he did last year with having only one healthy big in Noah Vonleh. It would 100% cost him his job.

Monroe would hurt this team more than help.

What? If we lost Davis we'd still have at least two other options behind Nurkic, and that's not counting small ball options like Vonleh and Swanigan.

 

[Drttimmy]

I don't see much reason to worry. I think we like Ed because he's lunch pail kind of player and seemingly good guy. Blazer fans love these kind of players, but in the end, how much better is he making our team? Whatever it is, I think it could be easily duplicated. Noah, is young with some upside, but we're a 7th/8th seed type team, and teams will not be lining up to pick off our players. Nerlens Noel, re-signed with Dallas for 5 million a year, essentially a one year prove it type deal. I don't think it's inconceivable Noah winds up re-signing with us under similar terms once he tests the market and realizes his value isn't what he expects. Or, the light bulb could go off, and he goes off in the 2nd half of the season. Then he becomes a happy problem. I just don't see much reason to worry.

 

[tester551]

I don't see much reason to worry. I think we like Ed because he's lunch pail kind of player and seemingly good guy. Blazer fans love these kind of players, but in the end, how much better is he making our team? Whatever it is, I think it could be easily duplicated. Noah, is young with some upside, but we're a 7th/8th seed type team, and teams will not be lining up to pick off our players. Nerlens Noel, re-signed with Dallas for 5 million a year, essentially a one year prove it type deal. I don't think it's inconceivable Noah winds up re-signing with us under similar terms once he tests the market and realizes his value isn't what he expects. Or, the light bulb could go off, and he goes off in the 2nd half of the season. Then he becomes a happy problem. I just don't see much reason to worry.

Olshey has a long history of paying players more than they're worth.

 

[SportsAndWhine]

The NBA has a long history of paying players more than they're worth... and less too, which is weird.

FTFY

 

[Driew]

Olshey has a long history of paying players more than they're worth.

Other than Meyers and ET who are you counting?