Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Haywood

[illmatic99]

And Blazers said no.

I wonder who our fillers were.

• The Blazers’ interest in Wizards center Brendan Haywood is understandable, considering the catastrophic injuries to Greg Oden and Joel Pryzbilla. But an expiring contract – such as the one belonging to Travis Outlaw – won’t be enough to pique Washington’s interest. As with Jamison, the Wizards want useful assets in return. In this case, sources say, Washington has asked for Rudy Fernandez and has been strongly rebuffed. Consider those talks stalled for now, but don’t discount a revival before Feb. 18 for these reasons: 1) The Blazers’ desperate need for a big man, and 2) Their ability to get ownership approval to take on money in the right deal.

And...

• Other than Cleveland, only a handful of teams are active in trade talks and willing to take on money. The others are Dallas, Boston, Portland and potentially Denver, which could get ownership approval for a big enough name – though no such possibility is imminent.

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/19891570?source=rss_blogs_NBA

 

[Buzz Killington]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

I like Jamison. He would be tremendous on this team.

 

[illmatic99]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

Definitely. He would allow Aldridge to move to C, and we wouldn't lose any rebounding.

 

[Buzz Killington]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

Yeah, he's a pretty high IQ ball player too that is multi skilled. would take us up a notch...definitely.

They need some PGs though....Blake would be perfect in a package for them really. If we could do a package with Blake + Webster/Bayless + ??? for Jamison, that would be pretty money.

 

[axs88]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

And Blazers said no.

I wonder who our fillers were.

I read it that the Wizards asked for Rudy for Haywood, because they are seeking real assets in return for him, just like with Jamison.

 

[illmatic99]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

I read it that the Wizards asked for Rudy for Haywood, because they are seeking real assets in return for him, just like with Jamison.

Hmm, I thought that initially as well, but it says, "in this case..." Still ambiguous, though.

 

[e_blazer]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

I read it that the Wizards asked for Rudy for Haywood, because they are seeking real assets in return for him, just like with Jamison.

Exactly. No mention of any Blazers interest in Jamison.

 

[Minstrel]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

I read it that the Wizards asked for Rudy for Haywood, because they are seeking real assets in return for him, just like with Jamison.

That's exactly what I was going to post. The blurb seemed to be about Haywood, with a reference to how Washington also wants useful assets for Jamison.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

Well I'd consider Rudy for Haywood a pretty equitable swap. Certainly Rudy is more dynamic, than Brendan, but Haywood plays a harder position to fill. A Blake + Rudy swap for Haywood works, but I wonder if this rumor is just a rehash of the supposed Rudy + Nic for Haywood swap.

 

[illmatic99]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

You guys are probably right. Can the title be changed please??

 

[julius]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

Well I'd consider Rudy for Haywood a pretty equitable swap. Certainly Rudy is more dynamic, than Brendan, but Haywood plays a harder position to fill. A Blake + Rudy swap for Haywood works, but I wonder if this rumor is just a rehash of the supposed Rudy + Nic for Haywood swap.

You mean trading one guy who is young and has a long future, for a guy who's in his 30's, and magically having a career year in a contract year?

 

[Nikolokolus]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

You mean trading one guy who is young and has a long future, for a guy who's in his 30's, and magically having a career year in a contract year?

"magically having a career year?" I'm not sure what you're talking about. The only thing that's different for Haywood this year is his minutes, his PER 40 numbers and PER are right in line with the rest of his career numbers -- and he's only 30 which isn't exactly ancient, and Rudy at nearly 24 isn't exactly a super young.

This is a trade I make in the blink of an eye.

 

[e_blazer]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

You mean trading one guy who is young and has a long future, for a guy who's in his 30's, and magically having a career year in a contract year?

Probably more in terms of trading small for big, or trading a redundant piece for one that we really need.

 

[Buzz Killington]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

Haywood is this year's Ramon Sessions!

 

[gatorpops]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

"magically having a career year?" I'm not sure what you're talking about. The only thing that's different for Haywood this year is his minutes, his PER 40 numbers and PER are right in line with the rest of his career numbers -- and he's only 30 which isn't exactly ancient, and Rudy at nearly 24 isn't exactly a super young.

This is a trade I make in the blink of an eye.

Something I have not seen in these discussions is that Paul Allen's heath may play into his wanting to up the time frame to try for another championship. Thoughts??

 

[Minstrel]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

You guys are probably right. Can the title be changed please??

Sure thing.

 

[Buzz Killington]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

Something I have not seen in these discussions is that Paul Allen's heath may play into his wanting to up the time frame to try for another championship. Thoughts??

The only thing that matters in this respect is Greg Oden's health.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

Haywood is this year's Ramon Sessions!

You mean a serviceable player at a position of need? I agree.

 

[Buzz Killington]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

You mean a serviceable player at a position of need? I agree.

that blazer fans seem to overrate!

 

[MIXUM]

i think we get a deal done with the wizards.

blazers wont trade rudy cause hes not only a fan fave but from a marketing stand point... he sells lots of merchandise esp with woman.

 

[Buzz Killington]

Haywood's the new Dale Davis!

 

[Natebishop3]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

that blazer fans seem to overrate!

You mean like Rudy Fernandez?

 

[hasoos]

It is really hard to justify trading a player for a guy who will only be here through end of year before his contract ends. Considering adding Haywood doesn't really put Portland over the top to be a contender IMO, it is a waste of time.

 

[Buzz Killington]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

You mean like Rudy Fernandez?

or Drazen Petrovic or Jermaine O'Neal?

 

[Buzz Killington]

It is really hard to justify trading a player for a guy who will only be here through end of year before his contract ends. Considering adding Haywood doesn't really put Portland over the top to be a contender IMO, it is a waste of time.

+11

 

[jlprk]

In the future, when anyone criticizes Pritchard, his defenders will ask for specific trades he ever turned down. When this one is cited, they will say, that was just a rumor, like all others. Pritchard has never made any mistakes, since you can't prove that he ever could have made a useful trade in his years here.

I don't need to be able to prove it to know he has missed trades. Common sense says that some good ones must have been available in his time here.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

Something I have not seen in these discussions is that Paul Allen's heath may play into his wanting to up the time frame to try for another championship. Thoughts??

Absolutely. Between Allen's health and the looming lock-out, the Blazers' window has shrunk to a keyhole.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

that blazer fans seem to overrate!

Ok, no sarcasm, just a serious response.

Rudy is a good, not great, wing player. Not exactly an uncommon commodity. He has a bad back and a questionable attitude. His long term future as a Blazer is debatable.

Haywood is a good, not great, player at a position where the team needs help - not just now, but for the future. Why do you assume this is a half season rental? Odds are, the Blazers will be able to re-sign him to a reasonable deal. The next time Oden/Pryz break a hip playing Wii, we will have somebody younger and bigger than Howard to fill in.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Re: Washington asked for Rudy in exchange for Jamison

I read it that the Wizards asked for Rudy for Haywood, because they are seeking real assets in return for him, just like with Jamison.

Right - the article is not saying that the Blazers and the Wizards even discussed Jamison.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I don't need to be able to prove it to know he has missed trades. Common sense says that some good ones must have been available in his time here.

Wow. It must be nice to have that kind of amazing psychic "common sense".