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Asked if he was focused on earning a starting spot in the Blazers' rotation this season, Webster said it was not his primary concern. Webster stated that he was pushing himself toward something bigger and more important.

"It's not about starting," Webster said. "It's about finishing. It's about being in the game during the last five minutes."
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Last year, for the most part, that wasn't Batum but rather Outlaw finishing at SF. I wonder if Webster can push Outlaw out of the finishing spot or, for that matter, can push Batum out of that spot.

I like the fact that he's planning on coming in 10 lbs lighter.

Gramps...
 
Whoo hoo!!!! This is great news!!

The rest of the league better watch out cause we just added an inconsistant average at best player throughout his career, who's best PER was over 3 points below the league average to the mix.

Championship, here we come.
 
GrandpaBlaze said:
Last year, for the most part, that wasn't Batum but rather Outlaw finishing at SF. I wonder if Webster can push Outlaw out of the finishing spot or, for that matter, can push Batum out of that spot.

I like the fact that he's planning on coming in 10 lbs lighter.

Gramps...
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He knows better than to push for a starting spot since Nate has already named his starters.
 
I'm glad he's coming in lighter. He seemed to be in great condition last year, so 10 lbs lighter should make him even quicker.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Whoo hoo!!!! This is great news!!

The rest of the league better watch out cause we just added an inconsistant average at best player throughout his career, who's best PER was over 3 points below the league average to the mix.

Championship, here we come.
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I don't care if it's Shav Randolph. Any player coming back is good news, unless it's Darius Miles.
 
Yep this is good news, I hope the best for that kid. He has had a rough go of it lately, and with all the shit hanging over his head his whole career for being drafted instead of Chris Paul, it would be nice to see him have success finally.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Whoo hoo!!!! This is great news!!

The rest of the league better watch out cause we just added an inconsistant average at best player throughout his career, who's best PER was over 3 points below the league average to the mix.

Championship, here we come.
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I like how you always look at the positive!
 
mgb said:
Woohoo! You manage to get to slams in consective posts! Impressive!
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I am feeling good today.

However, neither was a slam though. Nate has said he is not going to mess with his starters, and everything I said about Martell Webster was 100 accurate. Maybe you just don't want to hear the truth?
 
Mediocre Man said:
Whoo hoo!!!! This is great news!!

The rest of the league better watch out cause we just added an inconsistant average at best player throughout his career, who's best PER was over 3 points below the league average to the mix.

Championship, here we come.
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Whoo hoo!!!! A pessimistic poster who can't do simple math!! Just what we need!!

Since when is 15.0 - 12.0 > 3.0? Last time I checked 15.0 - 12.0 = 3.0

Yes, Webster was below average as a 21-year old NBA starter, but not everyone around here thinks the glass is half empty (or half full of piss in keeping with your overly sarcastic theme). Some people actually think that a 21-year old player has not yet reached his peak performance and believe that there might actually be room for him to improve. If nothing else, it gives the Blazers added depth and another player, who has experience starting at both the 2 and 3, on the bench that could fill in in case of injury.

BNM
 
Mediocre Man said:
Maybe you just don't want to hear the truth?
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....Or, maybe he just realizes labeling a player with 3 years of NBA experience (playing time), who came straight out of High School is foolish?


Glad to see Martell back, and I for one think he's the starting SF on this team for now and the future.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Whoo hoo!!!! This is great news!!

The rest of the league better watch out cause we just added an inconsistant average at best player throughout his career, who's best PER was over 3 points below the league average to the mix.

Championship, here we come.
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Wow. Who pissed in your cheerios this morning?

He's 22 years old. Should probably be a senior in college right now. And before the injury last year he was probably the most improved player in training camp, and he looked absolutely solid in the first preseason game against Sacramento.

There's good reason to believe he'll be a valuable addition to this team with his athleticism and outside shooting.

You're allowed to be optimistic.
 
Webby may turn out OK. But it will take a fair amount of PT to get there... if Outlaw is limited to backup PF, then both Batum and Webster will have their chances. My money is on Batum, but I want the Blazers to win, so here's hoping Webster blows our collective socks off!

iWatas
 
SodaPopinski said:
You're allowed to be optimistic.
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Nope, no way, no how.

We have an incredibly young, talented team that won 54-games last season and added a quality, veteran point guard. What could we possibly have to be optimistic about. It's much more fun to be ridiculously negative. You get a lot more attention that way.

BNM
 
Since I don't expect much of anything from high-school players who were drafted before they were ready to contribute in the NBA, I don't hold it against Martell that he has not yet played like a top 10 SF. Sports is the ultimate example of 'what have you done for me lately?' It doesn't matter if a guy was a stud two years ago, if he's not bringing it this season. Same goes for the flip side. It won't matter that Martell has not set the world on fire in his first four seasons, if he is able to contribute this season.

The bottom line is, Martell coming back is a good thing, whether he turns out to be a starting quality SF or a backup quality SF. If he beats out Travis for the backup SF minutes, great. If he beats out Travis for the 'finisher' minutes, even better. If he beats out Nico and starts, better still. I don't know how this can be spun as a negative. I probably have a higher opinion of Martell's ability and potential, to go along with lower expectations, than most people. This is the season Martell has to show whether he is good enough to meet fans' expectations. I have no idea if he will. As a Blazers fan, obviously I hope he does.
 
As a third string SG/SF, I'm really excited to have him back. Much like I'm excited to have Bayless as our third string PG. Young guys with risky but big upside are perfect for leaving in that third-string tier.

I just don't want him to take a minute of playing time from guys who've proven much more to me (ie, Roy, Batum, Fernandez, Blake) until he's actually proven he's worth it.

I don't think he's really in competition with Outlaw, as I see Outlaw mostly backing up the PF position.
 
Even if he just comes back as a role player - the guy you put on the court when you need a 3or a good free throw shooter - that's something the team did not have last year. It may not be enough to win a championship, but then, no one has claimed that. Just that it makes the team a little better.

Think how many close and OT games the Blazers lost when they bricked free throws last year. Win just half of those games and it's a 57 win team, easy.

And wasn't it mediocre man who said the draft that netted Roy, Aldridge & Sergio deserved an F-? I mean, I can be a grouser at times but mm has me beat by a mile.
 
I don't see him getting more than 10-15 mpg this year. He's a decent enough contributor, but his skillset is VERY limited and specialized. Not that we don't need his shooting, or anything, but we have a guy in Rudy who offers just as good shooting, plus a whole lot more. We also have a guy in Batum who has FAR better ball handling skills and all-around ability to ball than Webs.

Echoing what mook said, I don't want Webs taking away time from these guys either.

And I think he's dreaming if he thinks he can pass either of these guys on the depth chart come crunch time. Then again... Nate McMillan is our coach. :sigh:

:pimp:
 
Boob-No-More said:
Whoo hoo!!!! A pessimistic poster who can't do simple math!! Just what we need!!

Since when is 15.0 - 12.0 > 3.0? Last time I checked 15.0 - 12.0 = 3.0

Yes, Webster was below average as a 21-year old NBA starter, but not everyone around here thinks the glass is half empty (or half full of piss in keeping with your overly sarcastic theme). Some people actually think that a 21-year old player has not yet reached his peak performance and believe that there might actually be room for him to improve. If nothing else, it gives the Blazers added depth and another player, who has experience starting at both the 2 and 3, on the bench that could fill in in case of injury.

BNM
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The league average is 15.00. Webster's best year was 11.97. That is over 3 points below the league average. I am not sure how my math is off, but if it is please tell me how. It's early and it's Monday.
 
Mediocre Man said:
The league average is 15.00. Webster's best year was 11.97. That is over 3 points below the league average. I am not sure how my math is off, but if it is please tell me how. It's early and it's Monday.
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Webs was drafted too high and too young! This makes most expectations too high!

He adds dept and another match-up potential for Nate to use. He adds better depth to the SF spot.

Add Edit: He would be a very good draft pick about now if coming right out of college IMO.

This team is going to be very hard to prepare for with its versatility.

We can match up with nearly anyone except maybe a quick PG and Mills may be able to help with that.

I for one am very glad to see Webs come back. He is a player with equivalent of three or maybe four years of college experience.
 
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Boob-No-More said:
Nope, no way, no how.

We have an incredibly young, talented team that won 54-games last season and added a quality, veteran point guard. What could we possibly have to be optimistic about. It's much more fun to be ridiculously negative. You get a lot more attention that way.

BNM
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Very true....but not really relevant.

For 3 seasons, Webster has been a below average player. He capped that off by sitting out his 4th season with what was supposed to be a 6-8 week injury. Now, we are supposed to believe that the kid has magically become a valuable player on a play-off team? :confused:

Sorry, not buying it. Particularly not when we have Batum as an option.
 
gatorpops said:
Webs was drafted too high and too young! This makes most expectations too high!

He adds dept and another match-up potential for Nate to use. He adds better depth to the SF spot.

Add Edit: He would be a very good draft pick about now if coming right out of college IMO.

This team is going to be very hard to prepare for with its versatility.

We can match up with nearly anyone except maybe a quick PG and Mills may be able to help with that.

I for one am very glad to see Webs come back. He is a player with equivalent of three or maybe four years of college experience.
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Wow really? I would think someone who has been coached at the professional level, and is a noted gym rat would be more the the equivalent of somoene who went to college for the same period of time.
 
I do not expect him to be a major contributor this year - but this is good for both the team and himself.

If he blows up - it's a plus for the team, if one of the other players suffers an injury and he can help fill-in, it's a plus for the team - and even if he can not take minutes from the other players - he is an additional trading asset - which is always good for the team.

Overall - win-win.
 
gatorpops said:
Webs was drafted too high and too young! This makes most expectations too high!
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I don't think anyone will disagree that Nash totally mucked up that draft.

That doesn't change the reality that Webster was the #6 pick, and the guy the Blazers prefered to Paul and Williams. That is the yardstick he will be measured by...and if he can't stand the heat, he better go flip burgers or bag groceries for a living!

I must say, there is a real irony here. Zach was run out of town for his imperfections, and many people would gladly do the same with Outlaw....and yet both of those guys were drafted in the 20s. Webster was drafted 6th - but is held to a *lower* standard as a player. :dunno:
 
I don't see how having Webster back could possibly be a bad thing. He won't be the kind of guy to complain about playing time and if he ends up looking the way he did during the first pre-season game last year, he'll be a great addition to what we have going on.
 
oldmangrouch said:
I don't think anyone will disagree that Nash totally mucked up that draft.

That doesn't change the reality that Webster was the #6 pick, and the guy the Blazers prefered to Paul and Williams. That is the yardstick he will be measured by...and if he can't stand the heat, he better go flip burgers or bag groceries for a living!
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Bull hockey. He didn't draft himself at #6, why should he be measured by that yardstick? People who use that draft position excuse to pin unfair expectations on him are just looking to bitch. Yes, we could have had Paul. Did you tell Bowie to suck it up because he couldn't play like Jordan?

Fuck that noise. It's bullshit.
 
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