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"And Steve Blake is our point guard." - Lovie Smit..URR......Nate McMillan.
 
Gotta hand it to Blake tonight, he looks to have finally rediscovered his shooting touch and he was absolutely money from the foul line.
 
And if the playoffs started tomorrow, we'd be the 5th seed in the West . . .








. . . only to face New Orleans and lose :)
 
if roy is out....we are screwed.

this team would be a mess wout him.
 
The Blazers are playing like a serious contender. Maybe they should just keep Oden on the bench.


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I think we can survive a couple games without Roy. Rudy will step up. Bayless will get some minutes. And Travis can step as well.
 
If BRoy is on the bench the continuity of our offense just shuts down. He makes everything flow. We would be missed!
 
I disagree that we shut down. On the contrary, the Sergio-Rudy-Outlaw combo often breaks the game open for us and then falls apart when Roy and the starters come back.
 
I think we are fine with those guys on the court together in spurts, but you see who has the ball in his hands down the stretch when the game is on the line.
 
KingSpeed said:
Here's proof:

Against the Suns:

We trail 21-29 with 40 secs left in 1st quarter

Roy goes out

We come back and lead by as many as 8 points.

When Roy returns, we are up 45-39

that's a 24-10 run with Roy on the bench

http://www.nba.com/games/20081101/PORPHX/playbyplay.html
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nash was subbed out of the game the same time as roy and came back into the game with it 43-35.

so portland went on a 22-6 run with nash out of the game(well actually 21 as nash came out between roy shooting fts).
 
rocketeer said:
nash was subbed out of the game the same time as roy and came back into the game with it 43-35.

so portland went on a 22-6 run with nash out of the game(well actually 21 as nash came out between roy shooting fts).
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The point is... we can play well without Roy on the floor. Period. That is the only thing that was being discussed. And I showed proof. Nash or no Nash, that is far besides the point. And if you watched that game, Sergio and Rudy were playing so well and then got yanked and all their momentum stopped.
 
KingSpeed said:
The point is... we can play well without Roy on the floor. Period. That is the only thing that was being discussed. And I showed proof. Nash or no Nash, that is far besides the point. And if you watched that game, Sergio and Rudy were playing so well and then got yanked and all their momentum stopped.
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it certainly makes a difference if nash was in the game or not. the suns are a far inferior team without nash.

i agree that portland can play well without roy on the floor but you presented it like they were playing against equal competition with and without roy when with nash being out that obviously wasn't the case(of course you may not have remembered that he was out off the top of your head and probably weren't checking that side of the box score). obviously portland got good results in that case with roy on the bench, but it was at least partially due to the fact that nash was sitting out and goran dragic was in his place.
 
rocketeer said:
it certainly makes a difference if nash was in the game or not. the suns are a far inferior team without nash.

i agree that portland can play well without roy on the floor but you presented it like they were playing against equal competition with and without roy when with nash being out that obviously wasn't the case(of course you may not have remembered that he was out off the top of your head and probably weren't checking that side of the box score). obviously portland got good results in that case with roy on the bench, but it was at least partially due to the fact that nash was sitting out and goran dragic was in his place.
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Our offense was great during that point of the game. Would Nash have defensively stopped Rudy, Sergio, and Outlaw all with the stroke of his magical hands? I think not. The Suns may have scored more with Nash in there but they wouldn't have stopped the flow that the Blazers had.
 
KingSpeed said:
Our offense was great during that point of the game. Would Nash have defensively stopped Rudy, Sergio, and Outlaw all with the stroke of his magical hands? I think not. The Suns may have scored more with Nash in there but they wouldn't have stopped the flow that the Blazers had.
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with nash sitting for 6-7 minutes the suns committed 5 turnovers and only made two shots from the field. i'm pretty sure you would agree that it is easier to play good offense when your opponent is turning the ball over and missing shots and can out in transition than when they are scoring and you have to inbound it every play.

but like i said, i'm sure portland did play well then without roy and i know portland can have success without him, but nash being out skews the stats in that particular instance where i wouldn't trust them as much as stats over a longer period of time or that came against similar competition.
 
Here is the problem with Blakey

He played well tonight, but all he does is shoot jumpers. If they aren't falling we are a bad team. We need a player that will attack the rim and either score or kick out. Shooting jumper after jumper is not a very good strategy if you actually want to compete for the playoffs.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Here is the problem with Blakey

He played well tonight, but all he does is shoot jumpers. If they aren't falling we are a bad team. We need a player that will attack the rim and either score or kick out. Shooting jumper after jumper is not a very good strategy if you actually want to compete for the playoffs.
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addendum:

Here is the problem with Webster

He's played OK in the past, but all he does is shoot jumpers. If they aren't falling we are a bad team. We need a player that will attack the rim and either score or kick out. Shooting jumper after jumper is not a very good strategy if you actually want to compete for the playoffs.

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Here is the problem with Joel

He's played well in the past, but all he does is rebound...

Conclusion:
we were playing 2-on-5 last year, and we still won 41 games!!

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Actually, Blake is a terrific player, even starter, on a team of all-stars. He does not turn the ball
over, and he doesn't take bad shots - he's a role player. Do we have a team of all-stars?
When we get an in-shape Oden, he'll be a better fit. Until then, we will struggle without him
putting much pressure on the defense.
 
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Steve Blake does more than just shoot jumpers. He does play decent defense. He can't contain the likes of Tony Parker or any quick point guard, but he fights to keep up, and generally, considering the circumstances, does get a hand in someone's face more often than not.

Most importantly for me, he doesn't turn the ball over very often. In 30 minutes a game, he's averaged 1 TO. 1 TO!

And to get on Steve for settling on jumpers instead of taking it to the hole isn't fair. That's the game plan. Blame Nate if you don't like it. The idea is to spread the defenders away from the paint to open up driving lanes for Brandon or the post for Aldridge. Batum has that same role on offense. It's a sound strategy too. He is shooting 40% from the perimeter last time I checked. When the plays do unravel, Steve can and does penetrate for a short jumper, which for him is a high enough percentage shot.

I'm all for upgrading our PG, but that person needs to be able to hit nearly as well from the perimeter and not turn the ball over.
 
MIXUM said:
if roy is out....we are screwed.

this team would be a mess wout him.
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You could say that with just about any good team. The Suns/Nash, the Spurs/Duncan, the Cavs/Lebron, the Hornets/Paul, and the list goes on and on.

IMO, we actually have the depth on the team if we lose Roy it wouldn't be as big as an impact compared to the teams listed above.
 
I think the thing is our depth is showing, and we are taking advantage of it. Its not so much Roy as it is any of the starters going out... we put in our bench and its superior to other teams benches and we outscore them
 
I am not a big Blake supporter, but his getting it done this year so far. I just wish he would take a few more risks in the open floor. Sometimes he looks scared to make a pass to one of our guys in the lane.

Other then that, I can't really complain. Besides the fact that he is our only PG who has the smarts to hand the ball to Mr. Roy in the half court.
 
Crimson the Cat said:
Steve Blake does more than just shoot jumpers. He does play decent defense. He can't contain the likes of Tony Parker or any quick point guard, but he fights to keep up, and generally, considering the circumstances, does get a hand in someone's face more often than not.

Most importantly for me, he doesn't turn the ball over very often. In 30 minutes a game, he's averaged 1 TO. 1 TO!

And to get on Steve for settling on jumpers instead of taking it to the hole isn't fair. That's the game plan. Blame Nate if you don't like it. The idea is to spread the defenders away from the paint to open up driving lanes for Brandon or the post for Aldridge. Batum has that same role on offense. It's a sound strategy too. He is shooting 40% from the perimeter last time I checked. When the plays do unravel, Steve can and does penetrate for a short jumper, which for him is a high enough percentage shot.

I'm all for upgrading our PG, but that person needs to be able to hit nearly as well from the perimeter and not turn the ball over.
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nice post

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