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Either I missed this months ago, or this just came and I missed it being busy with personal matters. Either way, if there is a thread please merge. Couldnt fond one.

Anyhow overall I like the divisions look and understand how incredibly complex, figuring out travel, schedule, logistics, etc that goes into this. With that said, Something glaring stands out that I cant find any info out on as to why it is the way it is.

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The southest division looks fine, as well as most of the trams in the other two. However to call minnesota and okc nw teams is a slap in the face to us nw’ers.
Then you have Phoenix as a Pacific team?

Look at the miles now to travel just to our divisional rivals!!! The longest traveling team in the nba just got more miles added to the schedule and tossed into a division with 2 champs in the last four years and a conference finals team in Minni.

Was it overlooked? The fix is simple to me. Move Phoenix to the NW division, relabel it midwest division and move Portland to the Pacific division.

Easy.

Does anyone know why this wasn't done to begin with? Why was a west coast team omitted from the pacific division? Why have a nw division when there is only one team in the nw??

What am I missing here? With such an easy answer, why did the nba screw us over again????
 
Eastoff said:
Mod, can someone edit the title? This is not new. These divisions have been like this for decades.
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what?

Seriously? Wth. I had someone tell me there was a realignment, i went and looked and posted.

Wow. Cant believe I really never noticed it before.
 

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SheedSoNasty said:
OKC was Seattle and they never changed it. Minnesota is mind boggling. Not sure why they can’t just put Sacto in with us instead.
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I don't get it either.
I guess im like years behind, but why not just swap Portland and Phoenix and change northwest to midwest?

Seems like a no brainer.
 
There isn't any reason to realign because of miles flown, since they have, for the most part, and equal weighted schedule.
 
julius said:
There isn't any reason to realign because of miles flown, since they have, for the most part, and equal weighted schedule.
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I haven't actually done the calculations. Are you saying we dont travel further than all other teams by a significant amount, and thus there is nothing to alleviate by swapping Pdx with Pho?

I cant tell if that's green font or not. :)
 
SharpesTriumph said:
False - Blazers play all division opponents 4 time, other conference opponents primarily 3 times.
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Um, you might want to re check that.

They only play a 4 teams 3xs a year.


15 Eastern Conference teams = 30 games

14 Western Conference teams = 56

So that means they need to cut 4 games to get to 82.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
I haven't actually done the calculations. Are you saying we dont travel further than all other teams by a significant amount, and thus there is nothing to alleviate by swapping Pdx with Pho?

I cant tell if that's green font or not. :)
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I'm saying it won't magically mean that travel less, because no matter what division they are in they're still like 600 miles to their closest opponent.
 
julius said:
I'm saying it won't magically mean that travel less, because no matter what division they are in they're still like 600 miles to their closest opponent.
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But arent Minni and Okc much further than the bay area? LA also being a bit shorter travel distance? So if we moved to the Pac conference, wouldnt thst significantly reduce travel miles?
 
963 miles from PDX to LA.

1910 miles from PDX to OKC

1728 miles from PDX to Minni.

looks like the miles would be reduced significantly with one small swap. In the mean time Phoenix doesn't have to travel further than to the bay area.

753 miles from pho to sac.

@julius what am i missing? This seems very significant to me?
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
963 miles from PDX to LA.

1910 miles from PDX to OKC

1728 miles from PDX to Minni.

looks like the miles would be reduced significantly with one small swap. In the mean time Phoenix doesn't have to travel further than to the bay area.

753 miles from pho to sac.

@julius what am i missing? This seems very significant to me?
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Because it's realistically only 2 fewer road games.
 
julius said:
Because it's realistically only 2 fewer road games.
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Sorry. Can you explain like im a third grader? i see us having to travel about 1000 miles more per game on average than pho for in division games. If we play each one four times? 16k miles?
 
AI calculates pho travel for the upcoming season to be 46500 miles aprox.
AI shows PDX as 50k miles traveled.

Much less than I was thinking and I don't see how that is possible when the furthest division team from pho is less than 1000 miles and two of our division teams are like 1700 plus miles away.

Do they make them play Toronto 8 times to make up the miles or something? Lol.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
Sorry. Can you explain like im a third grader? i see us having to travel about 1000 miles more per game on average than pho for in division games. If we play each one four times? 16k miles?
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they don't just do 1 game trips.

Also, we have to take into account the 4 fewer games will only be 2 road games.

If they're only playing Minnesota once on the road, they still play Milwaukee and Chicago. So they can consolidate those trips together.

Yes, they occasionally have weird 1 game trips, but like I said, this sound only change 2 road games.

And it's not like it's always the same team each year. One year it's Memphis they play once on the road. The next year, only play them once at home.

They're still travelling the same distance year to year.
 
julius said:
they don't just do 1 game trips.

Also, we have to take into account the 4 fewer games will only be 2 road games.

If they're only playing Minnesota once on the road, they still play Milwaukee and Chicago. So they can consolidate those trips together.

Yes, they occasionally have weird 1 game trips, but like I said, this sound only change 2 road games.

And it's not like it's always the same team each year. One year it's Memphis they play once on the road. The next year, only play them once at home.

They're still travelling the same distance year to year.
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Ahh gotcha. That makes sense. Thanks for explaining.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
@julius so.
Do you want to just delete this stupid thread or keep it to show the world just how bright some pdx fans are? ;)
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I think it's fine to keep it open (tho if someone else closes it I won't complain), as it could be useful IF and when the blazers move or if they actually expand into Vegas and Seattle. That would definitely call for a re-alignment.
 
Yeah I clicked on this thinking I was going to learn something new.
Yes Portland travels further than any other team.
Yes that has been the case for a long time.
Yes the Northwest division is whack.

Yes we have another thread somewhere that speaks of this.
 
julius said:
I think it's fine to keep it open (tho if someone else closes it I won't complain), as it could be useful IF and when the blazers move or if they actually expand into Vegas and Seattle. That would definitely call for a re-alignment.
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Expansion probably seems the best way to fix this. Certainly if Vegas and Seattle get teams.
Another way they could fix it is to MOVE THE BLAZERS!
 
kjironman1 said:
Expansion probably seems the best way to fix this. Certainly if Vegas and Seattle get teams.
Another way they could fix it is to MOVE THE BLAZERS!
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So let's say they added the Vegas whatevers and the Seattle WeLoseOurTeamsALot.

That means each conference would have 16 teams.

So 15x4 = 60.

They play the eastern conference now 32 times.

That means they have 10 "extra" games.

This creates weird issues with an even schedule.

out of conference games (32). 16 teams = 32 games

50 left. 50 doesn't easily go into 15 (the # of opponents).

It's well above my pay grade.
 
julius said:
So let's say they added the Vegas whatevers and the Seattle WeLoseOurTeamsALot.

That means each conference would have 16 teams.

So 15x4 = 60.

They play the eastern conference now 32 times.

That means they have 10 "extra" games.

This creates weird issues with an even schedule.

out of conference games (32). 16 teams = 32 games

50 left. 50 doesn't easily go into 15 (the # of opponents).

It's well above my pay grade.
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Volunteers don't have pay grades. The forum asked, you must answer!
 
Obviously with the addition of two teams you either try to tweak the games to continue the 82 game schedule or go to 86 games which probably makes more sense.
It gets Portland a way better schedule and travel if you add Vegas and Seattle. Drop Minny and OKC. No reason to lose Utah or the Nuggets plus probably add Sacramento.

One thing that might be a sticking point is the league might not want Vegas in the Northwest division. They might want that in the division with the Lakers for Money reasons.
 
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