What are your Wes Matthews contract limits?

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Rip City Radio--in light of Wes' multiple media appearances this weekend--was discussing his contract possibilities this morning, and mentioned how every fan has a line in his mind for contract values above which he would be OK with the Blazers not equaling. They also agree that everyone probably has a sliding scale based on years.

For me:
1 year--$15M
2 years--$25M/2 ($12.5M/y)
3 years--$30M/3 ($10M/y)
4 years--$36M/4 ($9M/y)

If you got to spend PA's money on Wes, what are the highest contract values you'd be willing to match for him?
 
Doesn't matter what we will offer him, I bet a GM out there is going to offer Wes 4yrs at $13-14mill per year. The real question is should the Blazers match such an offer?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Doesn't matter what we will offer him, I bet a GM out there is going to offer Wes 4yrs at $13-14mill per year. The real question is should the Blazers match such an offer?
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If I were Portland, I would do it. If there is a player that has the ability to come back 100% it's Matthews. I mean the dude wanted to walk off on his own when injured.

I would hate for him to go to some WC team and torch us for 30 a game! You know he'd be up for it too.
 
NBA GMs are going to make stupid offers to players these next couple of years with the salary cap taking such a huge jump. Then during the next contract negotiation with the players union they will ask for two contract amnesties to save their jobs from the mistakes they made.
 
magnifier661 said:
If I were Portland, I would do it. If there is a player that has the ability to come back 100% it's Matthews. I mean the dude wanted to walk off on his own when injured.

I would hate for him to go to some WC team and torch us for 30 a game! You know he'd be up for it too.
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Matthews is not going to come back 100% from that injury. It's his attitude and toughness that makes his valuable.

It's tough, if LMA comes back you have to bring Wes back. If LMA is gone you have to look at going in a different direction.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Doesn't matter what we will offer him, I bet a GM out there is going to offer Wes 4yrs at $13-14mill per year. The real question is should the Blazers match such an offer?
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You're right, that is the real question.

PtldPlatypus said:
If you got to spend PA's money on Wes, what are the highest contract values you'd be willing to match for him?
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Amazingly enough, that's the exact question I asked.
 
It depends on Aldridge. If Aldridge is gone, I wouldn't match an offer on Wes. If he stays, I'd match whatever up to about 12.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Rip City Radio--in light of Wes' multiple media appearances this weekend--was discussing his contract possibilities this morning, and mentioned how every fan has a line in his mind for contract values above which he would be OK with the Blazers not equaling. They also agree that everyone probably has a sliding scale based on years.

For me:
1 year--$15M
2 years--$25M/2 ($12.5M/y)
3 years--$30M/3 ($10M/y)
4 years--$36M/4 ($9M/y)

If you got to spend PA's money on Wes, what are the highest contract values you'd be willing to match for him?
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Your numbers seem pretty reasonable. But I would need assurance that he will recover fully.

TBH, to me, the decision on Wes doesn't hinge on LA. Even if he leaves, I think we can work around that void and fill it quickly with a somewhat comparable player. Adding Wes is paramount regardless.
 
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SlyPokerDog said:
Matthews is not going to come back 100% from that injury. It's his attitude and toughness that makes his valuable.

It's tough, if LMA comes back you have to bring Wes back. If LMA is gone you have to look at going in a different direction.
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I don't think Aldridge will be leaving Portland, so that's why I think we should bring back Wes.

I definitely agree that if Aldridge leaves, then we get rid of Lopez, Batum and Wes. Then bring in youth to build around Lillard.
 
I match whatever for Wes. I don't really care if Aldridge leaves, but I don't want to lose Matthews.
 
Two years with a team option the second year would be my choice given the nature of his injury.
 
Whatever the market decides I suppose. I'd guess they will get a chance to beat any offer but who knows.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Doesn't matter what we will offer him, I bet a GM out there is going to offer Wes 4yrs at $13-14mill per year. The real question is should the Blazers match such an offer?
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I agree, The Blazers know all about Wesley's kind of injury, There will be a team that's willing to offer Wes more than what the Blazers are willing to offer.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Wow--those seem really low. You clearly don't believe there's much chance of him coming back to form.
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I just don't see it. His passion and locker room presence would be there but I think his play on the floor will not be his normal 16/4/3 with good defense. I want as much flexibility as possible on this team, giving a near max contract to a player nearing 30, who isn't even a star, coming off a HUGE injury is just insane.
 
I let Wes walk at anything over 10 mill, period.

I'd do everything to land one of these players:

DeAndre
Middleton
Tobias (probably resulting in trading Batum)

I don't know if the numbers work, but I'd rather see those guys making 10+ mill as blazers over the next 4 years than Wes.
 
His injury really sucks for many different reasons. And one of those is the possible "disrespect" he could get with the Blazer offer. If the Blazers are cautious then they will offer an amount that Wes will see as a slight. If another team offers Wes that same exact deal.....he won't be as offended. The Blazers can't win in this situation unless they offer him the amount they would have before the injury and hope for the best.

I think they do this, but with a team opt out in the case he can't come back like he says he will: "better than ever" . If Wes truly believes that he can, then he should be willing to accept the clause. A two year opt out is more than fair.
 
I think this GM who does things by default and who pretty much has a blank check to do whatever he needs to do keep the ship afloat will give one dollar more thanWes's highest offer and will end up luring him back in. Wise or not.
 
Supposedly Khris Middleton will get "Chandler Parsons money" - which is 3 years, $45M. Wes is a step down numbers-wise from Middleton, but then again, was on a better team. I think teams in search of FA shooting guards will have this list:

1. Khris Middleton (he's at the top because of size, youth and offensive versatility)
2. Danny Green
3. Wesley Matthews

So it kind of depends how many teams are out there looking.

If LA is coming back, then I say anything up to Chandler Parsons money. Not saying he'll be worth it in the course of his contract, but that's not all what you're paying for. You're paying to reward loyalty, to pay back Wes for being slightly underpaid and for giving his all, and to signal to every future FA that you're a franchise that takes care of its own.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Supposedly Khris Middleton will get "Chandler Parsons money" - which is 3 years, $45M. Wes is a step down numbers-wise from Middleton, but then again, was on a better team. I think teams in search of FA shooting guards will have this list:

1. Khris Middleton (he's at the top because of size, youth and offensive versatility)
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For as bad as Milwaukee is every year, there always seems to be a player that we want to poach from them.
Sanders, Anteokounmpo, Henson, Knight, Jennings........now Middleton. It shows you how tough it is to turn it a round even with good young talent.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
I just don't see it. His passion and locker room presence would be there but I think his play on the floor will not be his normal 16/4/3 with good defense. I want as much flexibility as possible on this team, giving a near max contract to a player nearing 30, who isn't even a star, coming off a HUGE injury is just insane.
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Yep! Some people need to step into reality and step out of the fan favorite fantasy league.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
I just don't see it. His passion and locker room presence would be there but I think his play on the floor will not be his normal 16/4/3 with good defense. I want as much flexibility as possible on this team, giving a near max contract to a player nearing 30, who isn't even a star, coming off a HUGE injury is just insane.
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Exactly my thoughts on the subject. He's a role player at best at his age coming off a devastating injury.

No more than 3 years at 22 mil.
 
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