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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/19/opinion/whats-the-matter-with-north-carolina.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

Charlotte, N.C. — In recent days, folks from outside North Carolina have been asking me what, exactly, is wrong with my state. After a vicious governor’s race in which the Democrat, Roy Cooper, squeaked past the incumbent Republican, Pat McCrory, the state General Assembly drew up and passed a series of bills that greatly restrict the power of our incoming chief executive — bills that Mr. McCrory hassigned.

This is only the latest in a series of fierce political fights in our state. Earlier this year, it was around H.B. 2, the so-called bathroom bill; before that, it was over efforts by state Republicans to restrict voting rights. All of this in a state long regarded as a paragon of Southern moderation.
 
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This fight to protect gerrymandering is pretty bizarre. It's like one of the most transparent things ever. I had heard the Democrats though actually did the same type of thing in Carolina a decade or more ago, stripping the Governor of responsibilities and delegating it to the then Democrat Lt. Governor. So, it's not like these shenanigans haven't happened before. The Secretary of State and districting is some of the dirtiest thing in politics these days and sadly both parties participate in it.
 
Sedatedfork said:
Those Since 2013 districts are pretty fucked up. That pink district looks like someone's small intestine. The purple one looks cancerous and should probably be biopsied. That red district looks like a rat.
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Gerrymandering and voter suppression. Cool.
 
Its not NY or LA, therefore they are fucking worthless.
 
The gerrymandering thing is interesting in one respect. The politicians look at it like a pizza. Democrats want donut hole shaped districts so the inner city votes are concentrated in one district. Republicans want pizza slice shaped ones so there's a little bit of the inner city in each slice.
 
Denny Crane said:
The gerrymandering thing is interesting in one respect. The politicians look at it like a pizza. Democrats want donut hole shaped districts so the inner city votes are concentrated in one district. Republicans want pizza slice shaped ones so there's a little bit of the inner city in each slice.
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Where in the hell do you get pizza from?!?

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Denny Crane said:
The gerrymandering thing is interesting in one respect. The politicians look at it like a pizza. Democrats want donut hole shaped districts so the inner city votes are concentrated in one district. Republicans want pizza slice shaped ones so there's a little bit of the inner city in each slice.
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Well, there are multiple ways to skin the cat, but generally it's the opposite. The GOP will concede the city in order to win everything else. Democrats want city voters to carry multiple districts. GOP wants them to win one district.
 
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SlyPokerDog said:
Where in the hell do you get pizza from?!?

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http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?2,2008600,2008627

Nate Cohn of the New York Times’ Upshot has written that while partisan gerrymandering has indeed given Republicans an edge in holding the House of Representatives, the deeper problem is that Democrats are highly concentrated in densely populated urban and suburban districts, like those in and around Philadelphia and Pittsburgh in Pennsylvania. By contrast, Republicans are, as a general rule, more evenly distributed across the map, which allows them to win more rural Pennsylvania districts with smaller margins. Slate’s David Weigel has replied, reasonably enough, that there is an easy workaround to the fact that Democrats like to live cheek-by-jowl: simply carve up the cities in which they live and parcel them out across different congressional districts that also include less densely populated Republican territory. But this approach seems like just another way to institutionalize unfairness. If we wind up with pizza-slice districts that distribute Democrats into a larger number of heterogeneous districts, Republicans will complain that their voices have been squelched.
 
http://archive.sltrib.com/story.php...3-90/areas-committee-county-district.html.csp

In its long-awaited final decision on how to draw new congressional districts, the Legislature's Redistricting Committee on Tuesday served up a "pizza slice" plan — which would slice Salt Lake County into three pieces and combine them with large rural areas.

That has Democrats and reform groups howling that the map is designed to dilute Democratic votes in their one stronghold of Salt Lake County, and improve chances that Republicans can win all four of the state's congressional seats next year.
 
riverman said:
dull pizza knives?
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That sounded like a quote from a porn version of Forrest Gump.
Denny Crane said:
http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?2,2008600,2008627

Nate Cohn of the New York Times’ Upshot has written that while partisan gerrymandering has indeed given Republicans an edge in holding the House of Representatives, the deeper problem is that Democrats are highly concentrated in densely populated urban and suburban districts, like those in and around Philadelphia and Pittsburgh in Pennsylvania. By contrast, Republicans are, as a general rule, more evenly distributed across the map, which allows them to win more rural Pennsylvania districts with smaller margins. Slate’s David Weigel has replied, reasonably enough, that there is an easy workaround to the fact that Democrats like to live cheek-by-jowl: simply carve up the cities in which they live and parcel them out across different congressional districts that also include less densely populated Republican territory. But this approach seems like just another way to institutionalize unfairness. If we wind up with pizza-slice districts that distribute Democrats into a larger number of heterogeneous districts, Republicans will complain that their voices have been squelched.
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So your moniker in the mac forum is Filliam H. Muffman?

Cool!
 
Denny Crane said:
If we wind up with pizza-slice districts that distribute Democrats into a larger number of heterogeneous districts, Republicans will complain that their voices have been squelched.
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So like I said, the opposite of your analogy.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
So like I said, the opposite of your analogy.
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Not the opposite.

Democrats want donuts, the holes are the inner city, the donut is the suburbs. Homogeneous. That way, minorities actually get to elect minorities.
 
Denny Crane said:
The gerrymandering thing is interesting in one respect. The politicians look at it like a pizza. Democrats want donut hole shaped districts so the inner city votes are concentrated in one district. Republicans want pizza slice shaped ones so there's a little bit of the inner city in each slice.
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Donut hole shaped pizza? Huh?

Aren't donut holes spherical? Wouldn't 'Ritz cracker' be a better choice than donut hole?

barfo
 
Denny Crane said:
Not the opposite.

Democrats want donuts, the holes are the inner city, the donut is the suburbs. Homogeneous. That way, minorities actually get to elect minorities.
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First Denny post that sounds like he's actually stoned...#thankstolegalmarijuana
 
barfo said:
Donut hole shaped pizza? Huh?

Aren't donut holes spherical? Wouldn't 'Ritz cracker' be a better choice than donut hole?

barfo
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No.

I didn't invent the pizza slice concept of drawing up districts. It's basic political theory.
 
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