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H.C. said:
Holy shit Eric... You offended me. You offended others.
YOU.

I know people who have lost their income for referring to a child as autistic to a parent with an autistic child.
I wasn't comparing you to racists, I was pointing out people who claim they're not racist claim they can't be racist because they have black friends.
You claimed you weren't minimizing mental health issues because you donated to autism speaks.

Your question, your thread was in poor taste and you're getting upset because people are calling you on it.
You even went as far to start saying things like. 'Oh I'm going to stop posting as much on this forum because reading people calling me out sent me into a depression.'
Aka you tried to gain sympathy.

I've tried to be nice and spell this out for you but I'm done.
You offended people with your thread. No one else.
Grow up and own it.

Also it's a clown comment to get uppity over me using the term mental illness instead of mental disorder.
Stop trying to win on the internet and accept the fact that YOU offended people. That YOU were minimizing mental health.
Accept it and be better in the future. Or don't and continue to try and 'win' on the internet.
But if you do keep trying to win on the internet. I'm going to start posting memes at you.
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My brother passed away a year ago but he had down syndrome, and I have spent a lot time assisting / volunteering with groups, mainly because Having a brother with that kind of condition gives me a unique perspective as to hard it can be on both the person who has it and the family.

Obviously that perspective doesn't give me carte blanche on the subject or to say what should or shouldn't offend someone. I didn't find what he said “offensive” so much as I thought it was unnecessary and in poor taste. I don't believe he meant anything derogatory towards those who suffer from Autism.

Also I am absolutely 100% aware that Autism is not the same as Down Syndrome.
 
H.C. said:
Holy shit Eric... You offended me. You offended others.
YOU.

I know people who have lost their income for referring to a child as autistic to a parent with an autistic child.
I wasn't comparing you to racists, I was pointing out people who claim they're not racist claim they can't be racist because they have black friends.
You claimed you weren't minimizing mental health issues because you donated to autism speaks.

Your question, your thread was in poor taste and you're getting upset because people are calling you on it.
You even went as far to start saying things like. 'Oh I'm going to stop posting as much on this forum because reading people calling me out sent me into a depression.'
Aka you tried to gain sympathy.

I've tried to be nice and spell this out for you but I'm done.
You offended people with your thread. No one else.
Grow up and own it.

Also it's a clown comment to get uppity over me using the term mental illness instead of mental disorder.
Stop trying to win on the internet and accept the fact that YOU offended people. That YOU were minimizing mental health.
Accept it and be better in the future. Or don't and continue to try and 'win' on the internet.
But if you do keep trying to win on the internet. I'm going to start posting memes at you.
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Not sure why you insist on bashing me. I didn't bash anyone in my initial post. And the poster here who has an autistic daughter wasn't offended at all.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
My brother passed away a year ago but he had down syndrome, and I have spent a lot time assisting / volunteering with groups, mainly because Having a brother with that kind of condition gives me a unique perspective as to hard it can be on both the person who has it and the family.

Obviously that perspective doesn't give me carte blanche on the subject or to say what should or shouldn't offend someone. I didn't find what he said “offensive” so much as I thought it was unnecessary and in poor taste. I don't believe he meant anything derogatory towards those who suffer from Autism.

Also I am absolutely 100% aware that Autism is not the same as Down Syndrome.
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If you're 100% aware it's not the same, why bring it up at all in this specific conversation?
 
KingSpeed said:
Not sure why you insist on bashing me. I didn't bash anyone in my initial post. And the poster here who has an autistic daughter wasn't offended at all.
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I have an autistic brother. I'm not "offended," but I think you're doing the autistic community a disservice by the way you framed things. Essentially your observation was, "Something seems wrong or off about Russell Westbrook--maybe he's autistic?" The clear implication of that is that autism is one form of wrongness for someone and while autism can be a detriment to some, many others don't view it as a handicap at all.

You said you're fine if someone speculates about homosexuality, but does the framing, "Something seems off about him, there's something wrong with him--maybe he's gay?" seem reasonable to you? If so, I think you may just not understand that equating with "wrongness" something that many people don't consider detrimental and has been stigmatized to greater and lesser extents over time. And if that framing doesn't seem reasonable to you, for similar reasons people don't appreciate that framing for autism. Not that homosexuality and autism are exactly alike in every respect--it's not meant to be a one-to-one mapping--but they're close enough in this specific way that I think the comparison is illustrative.
 
Minstrel said:
I have an autistic brother. I'm not "offended," but I think you're doing the autistic community a disservice by the way you framed things. Essentially your observation was, "Something seems wrong or off about Russell Westbrook--maybe he's autistic?" The clear implication of that is that autism is one form of wrongness for someone and while autism can be a detriment to some, many others don't view it as a handicap at all.

You said you're fine if someone speculates about homosexuality, but does the framing, "Something seems off about him, there's something wrong with him--maybe he's gay?" seem reasonable to you? If so, I think you may just not understand that equating with "wrongness" something that many people don't consider detrimental and has been stigmatized to greater and lesser extents over time. And if that framing doesn't seem reasonable to you, for similar reasons people don't appreciate that framing for autism. Not that homosexuality and autism are exactly alike in every respect--it's not meant to be a one-to-one mapping--but they're close enough in this specific way that I think the comparison is illustrative.
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Great post, but he's never going to understand the reasons as to why this thread was poor, because he doesnt want actually wants to. He just wants to be the victim and try to blame it on everyone else, just like he always does with everything.
 
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KingSpeed said:
Not sure why you insist on bashing me. I didn't bash anyone in my initial post. And the poster here who has an autistic daughter wasn't offended at all.
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So the poster who has an autistic daughter is the sole person who gets to decide what is acceptable, and what isn't?
Where myself someone who yesterday alone; got bit, kicked, rocks spit at, laughed, played, engaged, allowed self soothing, assisted in learning, helped with breakfest, lunch & supper, redirected... Must I continue?
I should shut up because you say so?
Complete bunk.

You're applying the same tools to this argument that you apply to your basketball arguments.
While basketball you can get away with things like that because it's not that big of a deal.
It's asinine to try it on something as important as mental health issues.
Again, stop trying to win on the fucking internet and accept the fact you messed up.

All right meme time.

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Discliamer.
I hope the mods lock this pos thread and it never sees the light of day again.
@PtldPlatypus @Chris Craig @SlyPokerDog
 
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TorturedBlazerFan said:
My brother passed away a year ago but he had down syndrome, and I have spent a lot time assisting / volunteering with groups, mainly because Having a brother with that kind of condition gives me a unique perspective as to hard it can be on both the person who has it and the family.

Obviously that perspective doesn't give me carte blanche on the subject or to say what should or shouldn't offend someone. I didn't find what he said “offensive” so much as I thought it was unnecessary and in poor taste. I don't believe he meant anything derogatory towards those who suffer from Autism.

Also I am absolutely 100% aware that Autism is not the same as Down Syndrome.
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Yeah, that's why I started by calling it classless.
But he doesn't get it and doesn't want to.
Reminds me of a couple posters in the OT section.
 
And in other news....

I slept in later than i have in years!!! I made it past 7!!!!

Im soo proud of myself. This is a feat for me i tell you!!!
 
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