Where do you stand on the following issues?

[The Captain]

Just a fun, simple survey. Keep it clean.For/against/not sure-AbortionGay MarriageIraq WarGun ControlNational Health CareIllegal ImmigrationDeath PenaltyAffirmative ActionLegalization of MarijuanaPatriotismWhat Political side would you say you are?Liberal/Moderate/ConservativeAbortion- For, but only for rape.Gay Marriage- ForIraq War- Not SureGun Control- AgainstNational Health Care- AgainstIllegal Immigration- AgainstDeath Penalty- For extremely heinous actsAffirmative Action- AgainstLegalization of Marijuana- Not surePatriotism- ForConservative

 

[BrewCityBuck]

Abortion - ForGay Marriage - ForIraq War - No, but realize we have to finish it.Gun Control - ForNational Health Care - ForIllegal Immigration - NoDeath Penalty - NoAffirmative Action - NoLegalization of Marijuana - YesPatriotism - You have to love your country.What Political side would you say you are?- I'm a political mess.

 

[SirLaker]

Abortion - Only for Rape like Captain saidGay Marriage - AgainstIraq War - It needs to be finished and the troops need to be backed up but I don't want us there foreverGun Control - ForNational Health care - ForIllegal Immigration - AgainstDeath Penalty - For people that do extremely vile thingsAffirmative Action - AgainstLegalization of Marijuana - YesPatriotism - YesWhat Political side would you say you are?Liberal/Moderate/ConservativeModerate but more to the Conservative side

 

[Memphology]

Abortion:Against it, should only be done if the female can prove she was raped and and is pregnant by the rapist.(still not sure about even that though)Gay Marriage:Against it, but they should be able to have the financial benefits as a married coupleIraq War:Was executed wrong, but we will look back and see why we went to war with themGun Control:Laws should stay the sameNational Health Care:Can better, especialy for the less fortunete and older peopleIllegal Immigration:kick them outDeath Penalty:Shouldnt be doneAffirmative Action:not sureLegalization of Marijuana:Should be like Ansterdam, can only do it in prohibited areas such as barsPatriotism:forWhat Political side would you say you are?:Republican(will vote for best person though)Liberal/Moderate/Conservative:Conservative

 

[ASUFan22]

Abortion- Depending on situationGay Marriage- YesIraq War- NoGun Control- YesNational Health Care- ForIllegal Immigration- Not sureDeath Penalty- ForAffirmative Action- ???Legalization of Marijuana- NoPatriotism- YesWhat Political side would you say you are?Liberal/Moderate

 

[BrewCityBuck]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Mar 10 2007, 09:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Abortion - Only for Rape like Captain saidGay Marriage - AgainstIraq War - It needs to be finished and the troops need to be backed up but I don't want us there foreverGun Control - ForNational Health care - ForIllegal Immigration - AgainstDeath Penalty - For people that do extremely vile thingsAffirmative Action - AgainstLegalization of Marijuana - YesPatriotism - YesWhat Political side would you say you are?Liberal/Moderate/ConservativeModerate but more to the Conservative side</div> How do you prove a women was raped? Many women could just say they were raped.

 

[SirLaker]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Mar 10 2007, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How do you prove a women was raped? Many women could just say they were raped.</div>Well, when there is actually evidence of rape when a a woman gets pregnant with a man getting behind bars then abortion can be allowed. If a woman just says that then they will be denied. Simple. Just need court evidence to prove it.

 

[BrewCityBuck]

So a women goes out, someone slips the rap drug in her drink, she gets pregnant, no signs of rape, she doesn't get an abortion?

 

[SirLaker]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Mar 10 2007, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So a women goes out, someone slips the rap drug in her drink, she gets pregnant, no signs of rape, she doesn't get an abortion?</div>I guess not.

 

[Memphology]

Its a tough situation, but if they is evidence that proves a women was for sure raped, she should be able to(of course up to only a month or so), but if they cant find it if she was raped, then she shouldnt be able to get one. It would be a extremely complicated and situational law, but I think it would be best.

 

[BrewCityBuck]

Allowing abortion only if there was rape...thats a bit too slippery a slope for me....there would be so many challenges, it would end up being a mess. There are many possible situations for a women to get raped where there are no 'signs'. Besides, can you say you are 100% for life when you allow raped women to kill innocent babies?

 

[LEGENDofthePAUL]

Abortion- AgainstGay Marriage- AgainstIraq War- Not sureGun Control- ForNational Health Care- ForIllegal Immigration- AgainstDeath Penalty- ForAffirmative Action- AgainstLegalization of Marijuana- AgainstPatriotism- ForWhat Political side would you say you are? Moderate-Conservative

 

[BrewCityBuck]

Care to elaborate on a few of your points?

 

[Diawsome]

Abortion -- Pro-LifeGay Marriage -- For, I don't see any difference between people who quote the bible on the subject and homophobes discriminating against these people.Iraq War -- For, I don't agree with the way it has been handled but I agree about being thereGun Control -- Stricter laws are neededNational Health Care -- Supports to an extent. I believe for life threatening injuries and/or diseases there should have some form of universal coverage but for non-terminal illnesses/injuries I believe that should be between the people and health care providers. Illegal Immigration -- AgainstDeath Penalty -- SupportsAffirmative Action -- AgainstLegalization of Marijuana -- AgainstPatriotism -- what is being asked here? I do believe it is a large load of crap for people who all of a sudden started caring/showing support for the U.S. right after 9/11 claiming to be patriotic just because they chant U.S.A. and place "I support the troops" stickers on the back of their vehicles.Political side -- Conservative

 

[the_pestilence]

Abortion - forGay Marriage - forIraq War - againstGun Control - againstNational Health Care - for... but only once the budget is close to balanced againIllegal Immigration - against, but I don't think it should be a felonyDeath Penalty - against, waste of public funds on something that's largely symbolic. costs like 20 mil now with all the crazy legislationAffirmative Action - against - dude, it's been generations, everybody from the segregation era is retired by now, more or less. Maybe I'd be ok with it based on economic situations, but not raceLegalization of Marijuana - againstPatriotism - for. duh.What Political side would you say you are?I'm liberal on social issues, moderate on issues that matter (and yes, I'm saying most of the issues that dominate the news don't matter)

 

[BrewCityBuck]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ Mar 10 2007, 11:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Abortion - forGay Marriage - forIraq War - againstGun Control - againstNational Health Care - for... but only once the budget is close to balanced againIllegal Immigration - against, but I don't think it should be a felonyDeath Penalty - against, waste of public funds on something that's largely symbolic. costs like 20 mil now with all the crazy legislationAffirmative Action - against - dude, it's been generations, everybody from the segregation era is retired by now, more or less. Maybe I'd be ok with it based on economic situations, but not raceLegalization of Marijuana - againstPatriotism - for. duh.What Political side would you say you are?I'm liberal on social issues, moderate on issues that matter (and yes, I'm saying most of the issues that dominate the news don't matter)</div> We agree pretty much on everything, glad to see the common sense on the death penalty.

 

[redneck]

Abortion-againstGay Marriage-not for it, but they should have some legal rightsIraq War-forGun Control-againstNational Health Care-forIllegal Immigration-againstDeath Penalty-forAffirmative Action-againstLegalization of Marijuana-forPatriotism-forWhat Political side would you say you are? Moderate-Conservative.Liberal/Moderate/Conservative

 

[Memphology]

Yeah, I dont agree with the death penalty either..unless the person is so dangerous a country or something cant safely obtain him.The abortion thing is a very hard topic to decide on. Your right, it would be extremely messy if they were to do that. Its easier to say than done. Im against it though, but you have to have sympathy for the rape victims...but your comment it right, does that give them the right to take a soon to be babies life away? No. Im still thinking about this, but im not sure. Id rather not have abortions at all though.

 

[redneck]

There are some people who just don't diserve to live. there is a case here in utah in the 80s were some airmen went into an electronics shop and murdered a bunch of people, they didn't just murder them; they raped the women, tortured them, poured draino down their throats and disfigured the people. 3 of the 4? were executed for their crime, and they should have been. If you tourture and murder someone you don't diserve to live in Prison. I also think child molesters should be executed; they F*ck up little kids for the rest of their lives.I'm against abortion because I think a fetus is really a human being. I'm not very religious and this is one of few issues I agree with the far right on. I do think that prevention of unwanted pregnancies will circumvent the abortion issue. But this is something the far right won't budge on; they don't want birth control and sex ed availble to help prevent unwanted pregnancies. one study I read said that 95% of abortions are performed on women 13-26 years of age. thats an age, especially teenage years, inwhich people are very impressionable. if you teach them what are the potential consequences of unprotected sex, they're going to be less likely to have it.

 

[the_pestilence]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Mar 10 2007, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We agree pretty much on everything, glad to see the common sense on the death penalty.</div>great minds think alike...... :dribble: I just don't see the point of killing them, as opposed to locking them up for the rest of their life. They're not a threat to society behind bars, and, more importantly, it costs too much money nowadays to "humanely" murder the murderers.Things like the Tookie Williams debacle make me sick.As Mahatma Ghandi said: An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blindOf course Ghandi was a douchebag and a hypocrite, but I won't get into that here.

 

[ASUFan22]

Ghandi was awesome, how can you hate the guy? Of course I know nothing about him.

 

[the_pestilence]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Mar 10 2007, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ghandi was awesome, how can you hate the guy? Of course I know nothing about him.</div>Ghandi was a brilliant man but he was not a pacifist and did not believe many of the things he said. He was strongly racist against blacks, was a wifebeater, a pedophile, and referred to himself as a "sincere friend" of Adolph Hitler.Now while the hitler thing was overblown (he was just using rhetoric) the others are very real.Many members of his party have verified that he frequently slept with 17-19 year old virgins, one of whom was his grandniece.But the most screwed up thing was some of the malicious racism directed towards blacks."Ours is one continued struggle against degradation sought to be inflicted upon us by the European, who desire to degrade us to the level of the raw Kaffir, whose occupation is hunting and whose sole ambition is to collect a certain number of cattle to buy a wife with, and then pass his life in indolence and nakedness." - Ghandi"A little judicious extra taxation would do no harm; in the majority of cases it compels the native to work for at least a few days a year." - Ghandiin dissapointment in his Zulu Memoirs, Ghandi would say: "However, at about 12 o'clock we finished the day's journey, with no Kaffirs to fight."etc. It's great what he did in India, but he isn't the saint he is made out to be.

 

[redneck]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Many members of his party have verified that he frequently slept with 17-19 year old virgins</div>Good for him, there is nothing wrong with being a deflower of virgins, infact I would actually like having such a job.(18 or older of corse)but on a serious note, this doesn't really prove much of anything other than Ghandi was a human with human flaws. his real concern was not with Jews, Blacks ect, but with freeing his people from a government that he, and most his people saw as oppressive.

 

[the_pestilence]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>but on a serious note, this doesn't really prove much of anything other than Ghandi was a human with human flaws. his real concern was not with Jews, Blacks ect, but with freeing his people from a government that he, and most his people saw as oppressive.</div>my point was that, with the racism, he was a hypocrite. All the great pacifists had flaws, but few of them were hypocrites about those flaws (IE MLK's womanizing did not conflict with his nonviolence)

 

[#1_Josh_Boone_Fan]

Abortion Not a political opition, should be up to a women and her right to chose.Gay Marriage Nope, No thank Gay Marriage is a problem and those who are doing it need help.Iraq War Tuff subject, I dont like the war, I think we needed to go into Iraq but under Cover, not the way we did. As we know it today 9/11 and Iraq are not related.Gun Control As someone who is going to be a police officer, I am strongly for this, I am cool with the right to bear arms, however that does not mean a criminal should bear or should a person bear anything more than a simple weapon. only one's that should carry a bigger Weapon is Police, and those in service.National Health Care For it, but we need to pay it some how, we need money to do it. cant do it when we owe moneyIllegal Immigration Strongly aginst, If you dont belong here, get the bleep out, my money my right's are going to these people. Plus this is a possible threat with Terrorism.Death Penalty Total for it, You kill someone you get Killed.Affirmative Action For this as well.Legalization of Marijuana No thank you, People are using Pot saying it's medical for there own pleasure, DEA studies have showen that Pot does not really work for medical.Patriotism As someone said what is meant by this question, I think we all support our country, or hope so. 9/11 Attacks hit me very hard being in NJ, I can tell you first hand what happend that day, I could see the smoke, smell it, and it was not a good sight to see.What Political side would you say you are? DemocraticLiberal/Moderate/ConservativeModerate to Conservative, I am what is called a Blue Dog ( a Conservative Dem.)

 

[pjcolpitts?]

Abortion-AgainstGay Marriage-I'm personally against it and dont think its right, but they do have a right to be married if they truely love eachother. They'll be essentially married and considered a couple by the way they live.Iraq War-I was for and am, but I do see all the flaws in it as well. I dont think this is Bush's fault, but more the whole entire governments problem and is at fault because they didnt think of all the problems in the aftermath. The U.S. military is the greatest fighting force in the world, but are not police. I also think that the news only shows you the bad sh*t that happens. They show us the soldiers getting killed and the terrorists with thier car bombs, etc, but they dont show all the good things that the U.S. Army is doing. They dont show how much good as come out of this. I dont think we can just pack up and get out of there either. We have to stick it out and cant let Iraq become the next Vietnam.Gun Control-I against it. I think some people are confused on this. Not just anybody can go out and buy a gun at any time they want. I do think that automatic assult rifles should be sold like ak-47's and M16's, but your regular handguns and rifles should be. National Health Care-I dont think we should have a health care system like any of the European countries or Canada do, but we should have some form for those that cant pay for thier health care. Illegal Immigration-I'm against it.Death Penalty-I'm pro for the death penalty. Some crimes that people commit are punishable by death, plain and simple. I think what BCB is saying cost so much about the death penalty is that they can appeal so many times and it the court costs add up. I think that part is almost a complete waste of time. When someone gets the death penalty, there is almost no chance that they arent guilty of the crime. The U.S. court system very rarely convicts innocent people. Most of the time if they get another trial, they are found guilty again, so its a waste of time and money. I think there just should be a faster way of killing them, rather than it taking so long. Affirmative Action-I'm against it. I think that most of the time, minority groups make it into such a big deal and make it an issue when it really isnt. Of course your going to have more white people in the work force sine America is made of mostly white people. With this, it also takes jobs from some white people that are more qualfied than a minority. If a black guy and a white guy go in for a job and they both went to a four year school and have the same amount of experience, the black guy is going to get the job because the company doesn't want to be handed a law suit by the NCAAP because they claim that this is racism and what not. All it does it make race more of an issue that it is, and bring down the white man while they claim all they want is a fair deal and want to be equal. Legalization of Marijuana- I'm still undecided on this.Patriotism-Very patriotic.What Political side would you say you are?I'm conservative but am growing more moderate.Here's another question for the survey: Stem Cell researchI'm against it. By no means am I a expert (or think anyone here is), but from what I've read and discussed with my peers, I dont really like the whole idea and dont think its right and so many levels.

 

[Memphology]

On stem-cell research, my Biology teacher told us about 2 weeks ago that scientists have found a way to do stem-cell research without killing the baby. Supposedly, they just take some of the fluid from the mothers womb which has shredded skin cells from the baby and they can use those. I havent personaly read anything on it, but I believe it...why would our biology teacher lie to us. So now we dont have to kill babies.btw, I was against it.

 

[BrewCityBuck]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pjcolpitts? @ Mar 12 2007, 09:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Death Penalty-I'm pro for the death penalty. Some crimes that people commit are punishable by death, plain and simple. I think what BCB is saying cost so much about the death penalty is that they can appeal so many times and it the court costs add up. I think that part is almost a complete waste of time. When someone gets the death penalty, there is almost no chance that they arent guilty of the crime. The U.S. court system very rarely convicts innocent people. Most of the time if they get another trial, they are found guilty again, so its a waste of time and money. I think there just should be a faster way of killing them, rather than it taking so long.</div> With our court system the death penalty is never going to work. That's why I don't support it. The death penalty only works well in countries with poor legal systems, like South America, Africa and the MiddleEast. You add up all the court time, all the taxpayer money, and in my mind it's not worth killing someone that would just sit in a prison cell for the rest of his life anyway. It's not cost effective, it's costs less to sentence a man to life then it does to put him on death row.

 

[redneck]

thats because we have the kill them politely, which is just horse sh*t. a bullet cost only .38 cents, just hire someone and shoot them in the head. yes I know I'm barbaric, but it's not like the people in prison are innocent little angels.On stem cells, I thought they could get them from the placenta after the baby was born? I haven't read to much into the subject so I'm not very educated when it comes to this topic. though I do think the government should do some research on the topic, even if they have to do it on Chimps to start with.

 

[ASUFan22]

Why can't they just bring back the guillotine? That a quick and good way to day...