Which of the teams in front of us would you swap rosters with?

[B-Roy]

I think no this should be an interesting discussion as far as weighing our future prospects with the other teams in our conference. Should also give an idea of how people value the current group of guys. For the sake of simplicity assume you swap records too so that you get a draft pick that matches with how good the team is.

Here's how I see it:
OKC - yes for obvious reasons.

Clippers - yes, contender now, plus two young superstars.

Spurs - toughie, but I probably wouldn't. They're good now but I don't think they're contenders and age will eventually catch up to them. I don't know if they will ever contend again with their big 3.

Golden State - a surprise as high as they are. This one is tough as well but I'd probably do it. They don't have a superstar but they have two all star caliber players and a top 5 when healthy center. Also have more flexibility to do deals because they have more quality players. However, if Bogut never fully recovers from his injuries I might change my answer.

Memphis - probably not. The only player I like on that team is Marc Gasol. They aren't good enough to contend and the bulk of they're core don't have a chance to be elite IMO.

Denver - no, the team concept is nice, but the Nuggets will be the definition of a team stuck in purgatory. Always good, never great, and they're core locked into huge contracts. I don't see the upside with their current group of guys.

Rockets - another tough one. I like the flexibility of their roster, and I think Harden is a superstar. Put a gun to my head and I'd probably do it.

 

[Nikolokolus]

OKC -- no question
Clippers -- no question
Spurs -- Depends. Do we get Pop?
Golden State -- no question
Memphis -- tough call, but I probably would
Denver -- no, but I like the amount of assets they have. Denver could still consolidate
Rockets -- yes, Harden is a stud, Lin is finally starting to look like a player again now that he's healthy and they have depth.

 

[PHXBlazer1]

OKC. That's it

 

[KeepOnRollin]

For me it is OKC, Clippers, and Rockets. GS is REALLY close. I could go either way on that but will say no at this point. I would not switch with them.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I would swap with all of them except SA, most likely

 

[magnifier661]

FUCK OKC!!!!!

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Okc and lac. Thats it..

 

[KingSpeed]

None of them. I don't want to become them. I want to beat them.

 

[Carlito]

U would have to be out of ur mind to want Houston roster!

Harden yes... After that its not even close to a contender! They would have to add a stud power forward to have a prayer.

Harden is great.

Asik is a decent center

Parsons looks like a decent player but no better then Wes.

Lin?!? I said it in New York and will say it now... Garbage and I think I would take at least 20 PGs ahead of him and that is being generous.

LA, Batum, Lillard, Wes over Harden, Lin, parsons, and Asik any day of week for me.

 

[mook]

Okc and lac. Thats it..

Me too. I drunk a lot of Lillard Kool Ade. He's the young stud PG Damon Stoudamire was supposed to be.

And Batum is the caliber of talent I always hoped Outlaw would become. Matthews is Patterson with a brain and a jumper, and Aldridge is Sheed with impulse control.

It takes a legit contender to pull me away from this squad. So many unfulfilled hopes finally getting realized.

Now if Leonard could just be the realization of Oden. Is that asking so much?

 

[KeepOnRollin]

U would have to be out of ur mind to want Houston roster!

Harden yes... After that its not even close to a contender! They would have to add a stud power forward to have a prayer.

Harden is great.

Asik is a decent center

Parsons looks like a decent player but no better then Wes.

Lin?!? I said it in New York and will say it now... Garbage and I think I would take at least 20 PGs ahead of him and that is being generous.

LA, Batum, Lillard, Wes over Harden, Lin, parsons, and Asik any day of week for me.

PF is the easiest position in the league to fill. They have the hard positions filled which is why I personally picked them. I think Asik is a very good Center (The league not having many good Centers probably makes him look better then he is but that isn't his fault).

 

[BlazerBeav]

PF is the easiest position in the league to fill. They have the hard positions filled which is why I personally picked them. I think Asik is a very good Center (The league not having many good Centers probably makes him look better then he is but that isn't his fault).

Aren't we 2-0 against Houston? With 5 NBA ready players?

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Aren't we 2-0 against Houston? With 5 NBA ready players?

If I was merely basing it on head to head then I would pick GS over us. But I am not.

 

[blazerboy30]

Does our roster come / go with the cap space we're expected to have?

 

[Further]

None of them. I don't want to become them. I want to beat them.

Exactly! The fun of having a team and following them through the bad years is growing with them, through the struggles, to become the a dominant team and crush all the other fools in the league. I would have it no other way. Swapping is for couples, not basketball.

 

[Carlito]

No they don't have the hard positions filled actually. Ur gonna tell me that Lin and Asik are championship players?!?

Lin is not that good. Tell me what PGs u would take Lin over? He's decent at best maybe more of great backup in my mind. Lillard is already twice the player. LA is arguably top 5 in nba and Batum has emerged as top ten SF easily all with upside still. Lin has no upside. He is what he is. I also think Asik is also limited at this point as to upside.

 

[B-Roy]

Exactly! The fun of having a team and following them through the bad years is growing with them, through the struggles, to become the a dominant team and crush all the other fools in the league. I would have it no other way. Swapping is for couples, not basketball.

It's just a way to measure our future prospects compared to the other teams in our conference. It's not actually swapping rosters.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

No they don't have the hard positions filled actually. Ur gonna tell me that Lin and Asik are championship players?!?

Lin is not that good. Tell me what PGs u would take Lin over? He's decent at best maybe more of great backup in my mind. Lillard is already twice the player. LA is arguably top 5 in nba and Batum has emerged as top ten SF easily all with upside still. Lin has no upside. He is what he is. I also think Asik is also limited at this point as to upside.

Id even say batum is arguably top 5 at sf.

Lebron
Durant
Melo

Gay, deng, granger..... Maybe,, but batum has really stepped it up this year and can do everything. Those guys are good but it would be tough to trade batum for them.

 

[Nikolokolus]

It's just a way to measure our future prospects compared to the other teams in our conference. It's not actually swapping rosters.

Exactly. This should be viewed as a "who has the brighter future" exercise. In other words, set aside your emotional attachments for a minute and be honest about who has the most talent or highest ceiling.

 

[Carlito]

Um I'm attached to nobody on this roster Nik. I'm just saying that I'm taking LA,Batum,Liilard, and Wes any day of week over Houston's big 4. That is all. Aren't u the same guy who wants to tank for draft picks? That tells me all I need to know.

 

[e_blazer]

OKC -- no question
Clippers -- no question
Spurs -- Depends. Do we get Pop?
Golden State -- no question
Memphis -- tough call, but I probably would
Denver -- no, but I like the amount of assets they have. Denver could still consolidate
Rockets -- yes, Harden is a stud, Lin is finally starting to look like a player again now that he's healthy and they have depth.

OKC - Sure. Hate Westbrook, but I can't deny his talent. Durant's going to be dominant for years to come. They've got solid young guys at every position except center. Perkins & Collison don't match the window of Westbrook & Durant, but I doubt they'll have any trouble filling the C spot when they need one.
Clippers, no question? I guess you have way more confidence in CP3's knees than I do. I'm still waiting for Blake to figure out how to do more than dunk the ball. I like Jordan, but the rest of their roster is primarily aging vets.
Well, you nailed the Spurs. Two of their top 3 are over 35, so Depends is definitely in the discussion. Parker's the only true star on their roster who has more than a couple of years left.
Golden State, is a little farther along in their rebuild, but I don't like their main components as well. Curry's really good, but I think Lillard's a better true PG. Lee's solid, but he's not as good as Aldridge IMHO. Never been a Bogut fan, primarily because he's never healthy. Barnes has promise, but I don't think he's as well rounded as Nic.
Memphis - Meh.
Rockets? No way. Harden's a stud, but there's nothing else on their roster that's the least bit exciting. Lin is severely overrated.

 

[KingSpeed]

U would have to be out of ur mind to want Houston roster!

Harden yes... After that its not even close to a contender! They would have to add a stud power forward to have a prayer.

Harden is great.

Asik is a decent center

Parsons looks like a decent player but no better then Wes.

Lin?!? I said it in New York and will say it now... Garbage and I think I would take at least 20 PGs ahead of him and that is being generous.

LA, Batum, Lillard, Wes over Harden, Lin, parsons, and Asik any day of week for me.

THIS THIS THIS. Geesh, people undervalue Aldridge. Who on earth would take Harden/Lin/Asik over Lillard/Aldridge? Never mind Batum and Matthews! Wowza.

Exactly. This should be viewed as a "who has the brighter future" exercise. In other words, set aside your emotional attachments for a minute and be honest about who has the most talent or highest ceiling.

But that's not the question that was asked. I can't believe you would trade Lillard/Aldridge/Batum for Lin/Hardem/Asik. Amazing. And as it was said, we are 2-0 against them.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Rosters are made up of a couple stars and the rest role players,and it all starts with the point guard. Westbrook and Durant are the best duo ahead of us. Clippers with cP3 are next.

Then I have to ask myself who is better than Lillard? Curry is playing better right now, but I would still take Lillard long term
Lin? No
Conley? No
Parker? Not in two years
Lawson? No

PG's are hard to come by. Lillard will be better than all of those in two years. The rest of the roster is comparable to ours other than the bench. And the bench can always be improved. Good young PG's are much tougher to find.

 

[B-Roy]

PG's are hard to come by. Lillard will be better than all of those in two years. The rest of the roster is comparable to ours other than the bench. And the bench can always be improved. Good young PG's are much tougher to find.

On the contrary. I think PG is one of the easiest positions to fill at the moment. The hand checking rules have really made this the golden age of point guards. Just about every team in the league has someone at the point that they are satisfied with. Shooting guard, small forward and center are the hardest positions to fill right now IMO.

 

[Pinwheel1]

On the contrary. I think PG is one of the easiest positions to fill at the moment. The hand checking rules have really made this the golden age of point guards. Just about every team in the league has someone at the point that they are satisfied with. Shooting guard, small forward and center are the hardest positions to fill right now IMO.

I could not disagree more. It took us how many years to be excited about our PG? There may be a lot of average PG's out there, but few that can do it all. The teams that have them excel. The ones who don't...... suck. And as soon as your starting PG goes down with an injury, you drop quickly in the standings. Look how bad Chicago missed Rose. Washington missing Wall. The Lakers missing Nash. The Knicks missing Felton for crying out loud. If PGs were easy to get, teams would have more than one. Some don't have any.

Miami is the rare exception where they don't really have one, yet they are still the champs.. But then they have James and his whiny partner.

 

[NOVoodoo]

I could not disagree more. It took us how many years to be excited about our PG? There may be a lot of average PG's out there, but few that can do it all. The teams that have them excel. The ones who don't...... suck. And as soon as your starting PG goes down with an injury, you drop quickly in the standings. Look how bad Chicago missed Rose. Washington missing Wall. The Lakers missing Nash. The Knicks missing Felton for crying out loud. If PGs were easy to get, teams would have more than one. Some don't have any.

The thing is though, when teams like Chicago and Washington lose their point guards, they're losing their franchise players. It's not like they're struggling because they don't have their point guards,... they're struggling because they don't have their franchise player, regardless of position.

I think that B-Roy's point is that it's not as important as it used to be, in that most teams have an above-average point guard these days. They don't all have "elite" point guards, but it's hard to find a team with a bad starting point guard these days.

The center position, on the other hand, is probably the hardest position to fill.

 

[B-Roy]

I could not disagree more. It took us how many years to be excited about our PG? There may be a lot of average PG's out there, but few that can do it all. The teams that have them excel. The ones who don't...... suck. And as soon as your starting PG goes down with an injury, you drop quickly in the standings. Look how bad Chicago missed Rose. Washington missing Wall. The Lakers missing Nash. The Knicks missing Felton for crying out loud. If PGs were easy to get, teams would have more than one. Some don't have any.

Miami is the rare exception where they don't really have one, yet they are still the champs.. But then they have James and his whiny partner.

I'm not exactly sure what you're getting at here. Your team will be probably be good if you have any elite player, regardless of position. But elite players are hard to get, this we know. All I'm saying is the quality of players from the pool of point guards is higher than any other position in the league. That makes it an easier position to fill. I can barely count on one hand the number of good, young shooting guards or centers, whereas I can list at least 10 really good young points that would be one of the best players on any team they are on.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Um I'm attached to nobody on this roster Nik. I'm just saying that I'm taking LA,Batum,Liilard, and Wes any day of week over Houston's big 4. That is all. Aren't u the same guy who wants to tank for draft picks? That tells me all I need to know.

Super

 

[MARIS61]

Why don't you just root for the team you like best. Seems to make more sense.

 

[KingSpeed]

Why don't you just root for the team you like best. Seems to make more sense.

Exactly