Who believes in Greg Oden?

[ODENISGOD]

I see a lot of doubters out there now. I find it amazing how quickly people get written off. This guy has all the tools to bring multiple championships to Portland. Most of you wont believe this but I want Portland to win more then u do. Greg has all the natural talent in the world, he just needs good coaching and guidance. Something I honestly don't think he is getting in Portland. I'm not saying KP has not tried giving him some guidance but I strongly believe he has put the wrong pieces around him for him to succeed. I hope this changes but I see no signs of it.

 

[Wheels]

I think the doubters are out there, because its difficult to see Durant tearing it up. I am a big time believer in Greg Oden.. I dont view him as someone who will dominate like Shaq or Hakeep or even David Robinson on Offense. But I do believe he will be every bit as equal as Dwight Howard on Offense as well as better on Defense. I see no reason why in 2 years Oden isnt averaging 18 and 14 with dominant defense.

 

[azsun67]

I believe in Oden, and still think it will work out even though Durant is for real. I don't understand what you mean that KP has not put the right pieces around him. He has a superstar SG, he has a PF that will help spread the floor which allows Odne to control the paint, he brought in a vet PG who is great at lobs and entry passes. Enough with the KP hate, how many more threads can you start that put down KP. We get it, you think he is apeice of shit and has done nothing to help the Blazers, unfortunately most of us don't agree with you.

 

[rocketeer]

me.

no reason he can't put up 15, 11, and 2 in 30 minutes per game next season(those were his per 36 minutes last season) and that's enough to have him in contention for the allstar team with the way the west is right now with yao out for the year.

 

[julius]

I stopped believing in Greg Oden when he failed to gave me the Red Ryder BB Gun for Christmas in 1968.

 

[ODENISGOD]

I think the doubters are out there, because its difficult to see Durant tearing it up. I am a big time believer in Greg Oden.. I dont view him as someone who will dominate like Shaq or Hakeep or even David Robinson on Offense. But I do believe he will be every bit as equal as Dwight Howard on Offense as well as better on Defense. I see no reason why in 2 years Oden isnt averaging 18 and 14 with dominant defense.

we all knew Durant was gonna be for real. But I will say exactly what I said before the draft. Durant is another Tracy Mcgrady. He has some sick sick talent but he will never win a dam thing. And what I mean about putting the right pieces around Oden is

1. the coaching. complete fail for greg compared to other big men in the league.
2. Point guard. Just got a lot better but was KP's 3rd choice. FAIL.

Oden is the key to a parade don't fool yourself.

 

[Minstrel]

I've been a big believer in Oden since I watched him play in the McDonald's All-American game and at Ohio State. His defense and rebounding have always been remarkable and I think he has tremendous potential on offense. The fact that the scouting consensus, since his junior year of high school, has been that he's the best center talent of his generation only furthers my belief that he'll be a great player in the NBA.

His play in his rookie season wasn't inconsistent with any of that. He had problems staying on the court (the foul problems I expect to be quite correctable, the injury issues one can only hope won't be a serious, recurring thing) but when he was on the court, he was impressive considering that he was a rookie with only a year of high-level ball under his belt and recovering from a knee surgery.

 

[rocketeer]

we all knew Durant was gonna be for real. But I will say exactly what I said before the draft. Durant is another Tracy Mcgrady.

as a player, durant is absolutely nothing like tmac.

 

[Wheels]

we all knew Durant was gonna be for real. But I will say exactly what I said before the draft. Durant is another Tracy Mcgrady. He has some sick sick talent but he will never win a dam thing. And what I mean about putting the right pieces around Oden is

1. the coaching. complete fail for greg compared to other big men in the league.
2. Point guard. Just got a lot better but was KP's 3rd choice. FAIL.

Oden is the key to a parade don't fool yourself.

I guess we will agree to disagree on the 2 points, but agree on the last part. Greg is the key to a parade. While I wouldnt say Durant is another Tmac, I view him as more of a Carmelo impossible to stop scorer.

 

[ODENISGOD]

as a player, durant is absolutely nothing like tmac.

i don't know what game your watching then.

 

[ODENISGOD]

I guess we will agree to disagree on the 2 points, but agree on the last part. Greg is the key to a parade. While I wouldnt say Durant is another Tmac, I view him as more of a Carmelo impossible to stop scorer.

your overrating durant. He has done nothing but shoot it evertime and get shutdown bye batum. I am not bying the Durant camp.

 

[Wheels]

your overrating durant. He has done nothing but shoot it evertime and get shutdown bye batum. I am not bying the Durant camp.

fair enough, I guess we will just agree to disagree like I said. I tend to view him as pretty efficient and lethal as a scorer.

 

[BBert]

I BELIEVE!!! OH, LAWDY, I BELIEVE!!!!

 

[ODENISGOD]

fair enough, I guess we will just agree to disagree like I said. I tend to view him as pretty efficient and lethal as a scorer.

he is lethal. and he will also never win anything. You got to know basketball. I believe KP does no basketball I just think various things get in the way of his judgment. Between moving up and getting Bayless and screwing up the biggest trade chip in the history of the franchise, I just think KP is a bust.

 

[mobes23]

I definitely believe in the big guy -- I won't say he's a can't miss superstar, but I think he still may well be one. Anything less than a rookie of the year award last season would have been less than the crazy high expectations people had set. Sometimes it takes players a few years to find their legs. Jim Paxson rode the pine his first year. Kersey didn't set the world on fire his first year. Neither did Clyde Drexler, Bill Walton, Terry Porter, Rasheed Wallace or LMA. He'd had microfracture surgery. Oden had been away from the game for a year. Same is true for Bayless -- any talk of him being a failure is ridiculously premature too.

 

[julius]

he is lethal. and he will also never win anything. You got to know basketball. I believe KP does no basketball I just think various things get in the way of his judgment. Between moving up and getting Bayless and screwing up the biggest trade chip in the history of the franchise, I just think KP is a bust.

Yah, the trading for LaMarcus and Brandon sure was crap.

 

[Boob-No-More]

2. Point guard. Just got a lot better but was KP's 3rd choice. FAIL.

What difference does it make if it was his 1st choice of his 101st. He got it done, didn't he? That makes it a PASS in my book.

BNM

 

[BTOWN_HUSTLA]

I'm just expecting low and hoping for the best really. Opening night crushed me and scarred me for most of the regular season.

Hope he dominates, but I won't expect it.

 

[Wheels]

he is lethal. and he will also never win anything. You got to know basketball. I believe KP does no basketball I just think various things get in the way of his judgment. Between moving up and getting Bayless and screwing up the biggest trade chip in the history of the franchise, I just think KP is a bust.

Sorry, I thought the question I was answering was "Who believes in Greg Oden?"

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I stopped believing in Greg Oden when he failed to gave me the Red Ryder BB Gun for Christmas in 1968.

You'll shoot your eye out kid!

 

[rocketeer]

i don't know what game your watching then.

are you watching a game where durant is capable of being the primary ballhandler and creator for his team? because that games doesn't exist.

durant is a better shooter than tmac has ever been and he may start approaching tmac as a scorer as well, but he's nothing close to the creator tmac was. tmac at his peak had a usage percentage of 35.2 and was assisted on only 35% of his baskets. durant last year had a usage rate of 28.3 and was assisted on 57% of his baskets.

really all it takes is watching them play, but the stats back it up as well. durant plays nothing like tmac.

 

[e_blazer]

I see a lot of doubters out there now. I find it amazing how quickly people get written off.

Says the man who had this to say about Bayless:

HE STINKS AND I HOPE HE IS TRADED TODAY. BUT KP DOESNT KNOW HOW TO MAKE A FAIR TRADE SO HE WILL BE ON THE BENCH POUTING IF U NEED HIM

 

[hielo español]

Yes HE can!

 

[andalusian]

KP believes in him, for now, but we all know that since he is not going to extend LMA, Nate will play him as a PF next to Joel - and we all know that KP hates power forwards. So - KP for now, not in the future!!!!

 

[Eastoff]

I stopped believing in Greg Oden when he failed to gave me the Red Ryder BB Gun for Christmas in 1968.

also when i caught my parents setting out Odenmas presents that were "signed by him"!

 

[alex42083]

Greg is just too talented at his size to be a bust. The only thing I see that would derail his career is continual flukey type injuries. He already proved to be a force defensively when he can stay on the floor, and it'll just be a matter of time and feeling comfortable on the floor on offense before he gets into the 15-18 ppg range.

 

[Eastoff]

I BELIEVE!!! OH, LAWDY, I BELIEVE!!!!

If you belive in the Holy Lawd Oden, then why are there still wars and famine!? huh man?!! Maybe we should be asking if the Holy Lawd Oden believes in US!?!

 

[Tyler_Hansbrough]

Thank you Satan!

 

[Minstrel]

Maybe we should be asking if the Holy Lawd Oden believes in US!?!

Did you make disease, and the diamond blue?
Did you make mankind after we made you?
And the devil too!
Dear God,
Don't know if you noticed,
But your name is on a lot of quotes in this book.
Us crazy humans wrote it, you should take a look

-XTC

 

[Eastoff]

Did you make disease, and the diamond blue?
Did you make mankind after we made you?
And the devil too!
Dear Oden,
Don't know if you noticed,
But your name is on a lot of quotes in this book.
Us crazy humans wrote it, you should take a look

-XTC

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