Who More Deserves To Be An All-Star?

[oldmangrouch]

when healthy oden was the 2nd best overall center in the league and not far behind howard. to this day i would take a healthy oden over durant. the only thing to regret is oden's health.

also griffin is probably going to end up having the best season by any rookie in the modern era. if the clippers make the playoffs he could be the MVP.

the fact that LMA or a healthy oden are/were anywhere near what he is doing is a huge compliment to them.

In his second season, Oden was no where near an elite center. 21 MPG? Those are back-up minutes! In his 3rd season, he had 20 strong games before he broke down...but we don't know yet what Griffen's 3rd season will look like. I'm just comparing their second seasons.

 

[andalusian]

Of course not. Griffen is averaging 37 MPG, Oden only averaged 21. (which also undermines the PER argument) Poor conditioning and foul trouble undercut his performance.

Greg was averaging 6 fouls/36 minutes last year - foul trouble was not what kept him off the floor for 36 minutes, and he did not seem to be in such a bad shape at all. I suspect it was more an issue of Nate trying to keep his minutes down and finding some minutes for Joel as well... but who knows, I was not consulted...

 

[oldmangrouch]

Greg was averaging 6 fouls/36 minutes last year - foul trouble was not what kept him off the floor for 36 minutes, and he did not seem to be in such a bad shape at all. I suspect it was more an issue of Nate trying to keep his minutes down and finding some minutes for Joel as well... but who knows, I was not consulted...

His MPG also increased last season (pre injury) - so his impact increased. As I keep saying, I am only comparing 2nd year to 2nd year.

 

[julius]

they have a better record than we do since Dec 17, (10-4)

Good thing the season starts in October.

 

[ABM]

Of course not. Griffen is averaging 37 MPG, Oden only averaged 21. (which also undermines the PER argument) Poor conditioning and foul trouble undercut his performance.

Holy CRAPOLEE! Is that avatar of you?!!

 

[oldmangrouch]

Holy CRAPOLEE! Is that avatar of you?!!

Nope. HCP's bachelor party.

 

[handiman]

It's a compelling comparison, but keep in mind that the Clipper's resurgent record is heavily skewed toward home games. I haven't paid attention to who they've played so far...

12-13 home
3-12 away

That means they have a lot to prove still in order to finish anywhere near .500 and be in the playoff hunt.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

It's a compelling comparison, but keep in mind that the Clipper's resurgent record is heavily skewed toward home games. I haven't paid attention to who they've played so far...

12-13 home
3-12 away

That means they have a lot to prove still in order to finish anywhere near .500 and be in the playoff hunt.

That's fair; I have a soft spot for the Clips because they are my best friend's team, and like what they've managed to do lately. They are still a long way from being a good team, but you can seem them starting to get chemistry together which is something you simply did see in the last year or two. They're starting to play to win, instead of for a paycheck or for their own stat lines. They will be dangerous until Sterling cheaps out and lets the team implode.