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Intriguing. You're getting a pretty decent PG (would IND ditch him in a playoff run?) and a younger version of Damp/Mikki Moore, but will still have 8M or so in cap space. Honestly, I think swapping Hickson for Mahinmi and Augustin makes us a playoff team. Why are you giving up E-Will instead of Smith or Ronnie? Not that I care about any of them, but you'd think IND would at least want a serviceable player, right?
 
I guess is you don't believe you can sign a good free agent for most the 13M, then it might make sense. Mahinmi has been out 4 years and would like average about 7 boards and 1 block per game. Not much to get excited about.

I think I would rather just have the 13M and see what pieces I could buy on the open market.
 
Not gonna happen because Indiana won't be able to resign hickson
 
he's very similar to a 2007-2010 Joel Przybilla, but with a better Drtg (and worse rebounding, but everyone has worse rebounding than prime Joel). Joel was a drb% beast. But with literally half the turnover percentage.

That, going forward, in a 26 y/o, for 3.5 more years at 4M per? Which 13M player are you expecting? If Pek, compare the two, and then see if you'd rather have Ian and an 8-9M player at backup PG/SG going forward.
 
I think Elliot is GO2.0 so I am for it. I just can't imagine Indy would do it. I guess Hickson would be a decent back up Center.
 
BrianFromWA said:
he's very similar to a 2007-2010 Joel Przybilla, but with a better Drtg (and worse rebounding, but everyone has worse rebounding than prime Joel). Joel was a drb% beast. But with literally half the turnover percentage.
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If by 'very similar' you mean about half as good as Joel (reb & blks) then you're right. Otherwise you are sadly mistaken. Is turnover % really your selling point? Starting center is our number #1 concern this offseason and you want to downgrade massively to Mahinmi?? The guy's had five years and has done dick, that's hardly the center LA is gonna want to play next to. I'd rather keep Hickson or look for better options.

BrianFromWA said:
That, going forward, in a 26 y/o, for 3.5 more years at 4M per? Which 13M player are you expecting? If Pek, compare the two, and then see if you'd rather have Ian and an 8-9M player at backup PG/SG going forward.
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Your right, Mahinmi is cheap. Now lets try to figure out why... As our GM has said our starting five is the priority, so in my very humble opinion I think it'd be smarter to use the majority of the 13m on them.
 
magnifier661 said:
Not gonna happen because Indiana won't be able to resign hickson
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Maybe they want to dump Mahinmi and save money? If they have a spot for Hickson and the $$ they can bid this summer like everyone else. (I have no idea what their financial situation is and I'm not going to look it up.)
 
I would do it -- IF that's the best we could do. We could use Augustin -- though I haven't seen him much lately and I'm surprised his PER is so low -- and Mahinmi is relatively cheap.
 
I'd also like to give some Dleague guys (bigs) a shot. I still think Hassan Whiteside can play in this league and he was buried like Hickson in Sac. I'm hoping that after the trade deadline we perhaps cut someone and open a roster spot for some 10-days. No risk, high reward
 
noknobs said:
Your right, Mahinmi is cheap. Now lets try to figure out why... As our GM has said our starting five is the priority, so in my very humble opinion I think it'd be smarter to use the majority of the 13m on them.
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Yeah, two backups isn't a very exciting return for Hickson. If there is any chance to work a sign and trade for a 'needle mover' (starter) we should probably exhaust that route before settling for backups. But is there that chance?
 
BBert said:
Maybe they want to dump Mahinmi and save money? If they have a spot for Hickson and the $$ they can bid this summer like everyone else. (I have no idea what their financial situation is and I'm not going to look it up.)
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They would be in a serious problem position. West will be a free agent and should demand a large contract. It could make sense if they want to move on with West and get Hickson for cheaper. Maybe that might work. But then again, what's West really worth? He is getting 10 mil this season. I suspect maybe 8-9 mil. Isn't that what many are agreeing with Hickson?

I just think for Indiana, obtaining Hickson is a lateral move.
 
I know nothing about Mahinmi so I can't say one way or the other. But i do like Augustin as a back up.

However ideally I would like to get a tall back up PG that would allow Lillard to slide over to the SG position for 6-8 minutes/game. That could solve two needs with one player. Not sure Agustin and Lillard could work together at the same time. Not a deal breaker, but again ideally I would like to have a really good back-up PG who will get 18-20 minutes a game . Which means some minutes with Damian
 
No. Hickson is worth more. And call me crazy, but I have hope that E.Williams will be a very solid SG/SF in a few years.
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
And call me crazy, but I have hope that E.Williams will be a very solid SG/SF in a few years.
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E Will's contract is up. So he may become a good player (if he can shake the injuries) but it will likely be on another team.
 
noknobs said:
If by 'very similar' you mean about half as good as Joel (reb & blks) then you're right. Otherwise you are sadly mistaken. Is turnover % really your selling point? Starting center is our number #1 concern this offseason and you want to downgrade massively to Mahinmi?? The guy's had five years and has done dick, that's hardly the center LA is gonna want to play next to. I'd rather keep Hickson or look for better options.
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No, by very similar I mean that his block % is the same, his defensive rating is slightly better, he has similar PER and he's a mid-to-high tier offensive rebounder. Joel was a much better rebounder, but he's similar in that Mahinmi will (like Joel) be a liability on O unless he's cleaning up garbage baskets or occasionally getting a P&R, he'll guard the opponent's best big (and probably pretty well), and he's right about at the Brand/Collison/Lopez/D-HO (in a bad year)/Okafor/Ibaka ORB% range.

yeah, he's got limitations, and there's a reason he's making 4M as a 25 y/o. Then again, why's JJ making 4M as a 24y/o, but on a 1yr deal?

And sure, if you want to make the starting 5 a priority, which C are you going to get for 13M? And why do you think that would be better than Lillard/Wes/Batum/LMA/($4M defensive-minded C who cleans up offensive glass) with someone like Redick or Tyreke etc. as the 6th Man?
 
Seraphin's a good idea, also, but what motivation do the Wiz have to do that? IND at least gets immediate upgrade at a position of need for a luxury.
 
BrianFromWA said:
Seraphin's a good idea, also, but what motivation do the Wiz have to do that? IND at least gets immediate upgrade at a position of need for a luxury.
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Hey, Brian! How's it going? What do you think the Blazers will do at the trade deadline?
 
doing ok so far. Overloading on all the bios of Hajis and Khans and Mohammeds and Abduls and Haji Mohammed Abdul Khans, but will be headfirst in it on Thursday with initial meetings and intros with village leaders. First helo ride in 17 years coming up. Pretty stoked.

I don't know about the deadline. I'd like to see Hickson moved. It literally does us no good (for the future) to keep him unless a) you think he's the difference in making a playoff spot (if you're still going for that) vs. who we get back, or b) you think he's the Missing 5th Starter of the Future (M5SotF) and you're planning on paying him his 4/40M contract this summer.

Personally, I'm intrigued by the trade MM brought up. A 2-headed monster at C going forward with Leonard and Mahinmi and 9M or so in cap space would be a pretty good setup for the summer. And with Augustin taking Ronnie/Nolan's minutes, we might have enough juice to sneak in the playoffs. Probably not. If we can get a young, cheap-ish big like Mozgov or Seraphin, even better--but I don't think their teams are giving them up. I still really like Redick (and as a distant second, Tyreke) this summer, so keeping 7-9M in cap space would be a big deal (therefore, no trades where we take on a bunch of long-term salary, unless we're getting a difference-maker--ie, M5SotF--or immediate probably-lotto picks back). Or maybe you do a Hickson-and-expirings-and-2nds (Nolan or Babbitt) for Redick right now as a glimpse-of-the-future move.

I don't see LMA being moved, but if you wanted to go in a different direction his value is as high as it probably ever will be.

I don't like the idea of trading away Wes. He's decently-paid, a good character fit, a defense-and-3's guy, etc. I think he should be the starting SG for a long time, unless we somehow end up with Shabazz or something. Nic and Lillard aren't going anywhere, we can't trade a 1st until 2018, and our bench probably won't fetch a whole lot in trade. I can't believe that Olshey would hang on to Hickson just to lose him for nothing this summer (he probably won't even be able to be a S&T b/c he'll end up as BYC status with the raise he's likely to get). But I've been wrong before (RLS-EC). And I have no pizza guy here in Afghanistan.
 
BrianFromWA said:
Seraphin's a good idea, also, but what motivation do the Wiz have to do that? IND at least gets immediate upgrade at a position of need for a luxury.
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The Wiz might prefer more of a scoring/rebounding "normal" PF vs Seraphin who is definitely more of a PF/C than Hickson is, they already have nene and Okafor
 
if that's the case, then giterdun.
 
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