Will Barry Bonds ever match Josh Gibson?

[Jon_Vilma]

Josh Gibson is the best African American hitter in baseball history, maybe the best overall. Babe Ruth once said that if Gibson was allowed to play in the with the whites, that he (Ruth) would be the 2nd best home run hitter in the league.

 

[bobferg]

gibson didnt use roids.

 

[Jon_Vilma]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bobferg @ Apr 11 2006, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>gibson didnt use roids.</div>And neither did most of the pitchers he faced.

 

[bobferg]

but the pitchers he faced cheated like crazy. Spit balls? euphis? there is way less of that in the game now. and how many pitchers have been accused or found of doing 'roids?

 

[Jon_Vilma]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bobferg @ Apr 11 2006, 04:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>but the pitchers he faced cheated like crazy. Spit balls? euphis? there is way less of that in the game now. and how many pitchers have been accused or found of doing 'roids?</div>Accused by whom? The media? Eric Gagne, among others.And some whole teams cheat on pitching. IE Freeze balls.

 

[bobferg]

jim rome doesn't count. he makes shit up to be heard. Freeze balls arent shit. the rockies use them, and their pitching is so good.

 

[Jon_Vilma]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bobferg @ Apr 11 2006, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>jim rome doesn't count. he makes shit up to be heard. Freeze balls arent shit. the rockies use them, and their pitching is so good.</div>Freezing the ball does deaden it.Mark Prior, Kenny Rogers, Curt Schilling, and David Wells (Cincinnati Post).

 

[bobferg]

this is from the cincinnati post? They are just mad that Prior rapes them all the time. David wells is on roids? That is the funniest thing i have ever heard. Kenny rodgers? The only reason they are even saying that is because he gets pissed all the time. And curt schilling? He played his ass off and played through pain. That is the only reason that they would say that. These are all just rumors. Atleast there is a publication saying that bonds shot up. Not only in the shadows book but in jose's book too.

 

[AdropOFvenom]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bobferg @ Apr 11 2006, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>this is from the cincinnati post? They are just mad that Prior rapes them all the time. David wells is on roids? That is the funniest thing i have ever heard. Kenny rodgers? The only reason they are even saying that is because he gets pissed all the time. And curt schilling? He played his ass off and played through pain. That is the only reason that they would say that. These are all just rumors. Atleast there is a publication saying that bonds shot up. Not only in the shadows book but in jose's book too.</div>The only drugs that Wells is on is Alcohol and maybe Cigars.

 

[bobferg]

i love that he admitted he was half drunk when he pitched the perfect game. I lov david wells.

 

[Jon_Vilma]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bobferg @ Apr 11 2006, 06:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>this is from the cincinnati post? They are just mad that Prior rapes them all the time. David wells is on roids? That is the funniest thing i have ever heard. Kenny rodgers? The only reason they are even saying that is because he gets pissed all the time. And curt schilling? He played his ass off and played through pain. That is the only reason that they would say that. These are all just rumors. Atleast there is a publication saying that bonds shot up. Not only in the shadows book but in jose's book too.</div>You do realize that more pitchers have been busted for taking Steriods than have hitters right? What's a greater benefit? Adding 5-7 MPH to your fastball, or 20 feet to your swing for the fences?

 

[bobferg]

like i said...........please list the pitchers who have been busted. All I know is Giambi, Moose, Sanchez.

 

[Jon_Vilma]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bobferg @ Apr 12 2006, 08:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>like i said...........please list the pitchers who have been busted. All I know is Giambi, Moose, Sanchez.</div>The three minor leaguers who just got busted were pichers. Most of the people who get busted are minor league pitchers. I don't know their names, why would I know their names?

 

[Brooksie5]

No important pitcher has been accused. Who cares if minor leaguers have, this isn't a debate over who'll be the greatest minor league batter of all time.