will giannis postgame interview have effect on dame lillard

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A bigger question is whether or not it will have an impact on the defense either player plays.
 
Mediocre Man said:
If neither buys into “defense wins championships” it doesn’t matter
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that goes without saying

but the question was about if his speech will have effect on dame... this is the first time after dirk that we have seen this type of thing happen and its fresh in dames memory (he wasnt even in the league when dirk won the chip in 2011)
 
I was in Milwaukee when they drafted Glenn Robinson #1 and I remember when they drafted Dirk and traded him. They blew it with Jabari Parker too.
 
I think this could probably go either way

for one, it will convince Dame that it's possible....but I think he already knows it's possible. And seeing it happen for Giannis would make Dame want the same, even more than he does

but if Dame has little confidence in Olshey or ownership...and I think that's exactly where he's at...seeing it happen in Milwaukee could sour him even more on his 9 years under Stolshey. NBA players are as aware of missed opportunities as are fans.
 
Dame can see past the bullshit. Olshey knows he can't bring weak stuff to Dame. I've got to believe, Neil has pride to do everything he can to be successful. Neil made some bad signings, for sure, but he also made some good, and to a point, he's been a little snake bit. LaMarcus thinking the grass was greener. Nurk's injury when the team was beginning to become a force to be reckoned with. Ariza's family situation. But Bullshit talks, he has to get it done.
 
wizenheimer said:
I think this could probably go either way

for one, it will convince Dame that it's possible....but I think he already knows it's possible. And seeing it happen for Giannis would make Dame want the same, even more than he does

but if Dame has little confidence in Olshey or ownership...and I think that's exactly where he's at...seeing it happen in Milwaukee could sour him even more on his 9 years under Stolshey. NBA players are as aware of missed opportunities as are fans.
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Hard to play armchair psychologist with a guy like Dame and in a situation like this one, but I'd hazard a guess that it's probably helpful for us in the short term, but only ramps his desire to win one even more in the long (which, if Neil does what we all expect him to, will be unhelpful).

Giannis and Dame are close, which likely means they'll talk in the offseason, and its not hard to draw parallels to their situations. In my mind, seeing Giannis do it in Milwaukee probably convinces Dame to give it one more run in Portland, and to do everything he can to force Neil's hand in improving the roster. Possibly/hopefully, he also ramps up his own recruitment of players -- that's certainly been an issue in the past as well.

Once Neil falls short, however, I think it'll be a death sentence to Dame's PDX tenure.

How ownership is not getting a LOT more heat about any of this is the disturbing part to me...
 
wizenheimer said:
I think this could probably go either way

for one, it will convince Dame that it's possible....but I think he already knows it's possible. And seeing it happen for Giannis would make Dame want the same, even more than he does

but if Dame has little confidence in Olshey or ownership...and I think that's exactly where he's at...seeing it happen in Milwaukee could sour him even more on his 9 years under Stolshey. NBA players are as aware of missed opportunities as are fans.
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I still think Dame was happy with Stott's and didnt want to part with CJ. At what point should a gm give into star players, on the way up or once they have arrived?
 
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AldoTrapani said:
Dame use to think like Gannis not anymore apparently
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Giannis just made a list of teams he wanted to be traded to last off season... then the team made the Jrue trade and then the guy signed a supermax extension. I'm sure Dame is hoping the same tactic works but don't paint Giannis... in his seventh season to be some ride or die that Dame isn't. Get your facts straight... again.
 
blazerkor said:
Giannis just made a list of teams he wanted to be traded to last off season... then the team made the Jrue trade and then the guy signed a supermax extension. I'm sure Dame is hoping the same tactic works but don't paint Giannis... in his seventh season to be some ride or die that Dame isn't. Get your facts straight... again.
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i must have forgotten this. what were the teams?
 
glazeduck said:
Hard to play armchair psychologist with a guy like Dame and in a situation like this one, but I'd hazard a guess that it's probably helpful for us in the short term, but only ramps his desire to win one even more in the long (which, if Neil does what we all expect him to, will be unhelpful).

Giannis and Dame are close, which likely means they'll talk in the offseason, and its not hard to draw parallels to their situations. In my mind, seeing Giannis do it in Milwaukee probably convinces Dame to give it one more run in Portland, and to do everything he can to force Neil's hand in improving the roster. Possibly/hopefully, he also ramps up his own recruitment of players -- that's certainly been an issue in the past as well.

Once Neil falls short, however, I think it'll be a death sentence to Dame's PDX tenure.

How ownership is not getting a LOT more heat about any of this is the disturbing part to me...
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How ownership is not getting a LOT more heat about any of this is the disturbing part to me...[/QUOTE] - BINGO it 100% starts there!
 
wizenheimer said:
I think this could probably go either way

for one, it will convince Dame that it's possible....but I think he already knows it's possible. And seeing it happen for Giannis would make Dame want the same, even more than he does

but if Dame has little confidence in Olshey or ownership...and I think that's exactly where he's at...seeing it happen in Milwaukee could sour him even more on his 9 years under Stolshey. NBA players are as aware of missed opportunities as are fans.
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Wasn't the same thing being talked about in Milwaukee just a year ago, though? Lot of media hype that Giannis was going to bolt because they couldn't win.
 
Just heard a radio commentator asked the question "if Dame is a Super Star what does that make Giannis"?
It makes him the Greek Freak of a Super Star & some, now.
 
tykendo said:
Dame can see past the bullshit. Olshey knows he can't bring weak stuff to Dame. I've got to believe, Neil has pride to do everything he can to be successful. Neil made some bad signings, for sure, but he also made some good, and to a point, he's been a little snake bit. LaMarcus thinking the grass was greener. Nurk's injury when the team was beginning to become a force to be reckoned with. Ariza's family situation. But Bullshit talks, he has to get it done.
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Neil doesn't have pride. Lmao.
 
illmatic99 said:
i must have forgotten this. what were the teams?
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I'm not finding the articles or tweets but in early to mid September there were rumors that he had a list of teams and Miami was at the top of it, the Warriors were on it and their was a "secret team". After Giannis actually signed the extension Chris Haynes who obviously has some credibility issues reported that we were the "secret team". The fact is there were a lot of reports that Giannis was saying get better or I'm leaving in free agency and it was reported that the Bucks would not have let him walk like he was LaMarcus Aldridge or something.
 
blazerkor said:
I'm not finding the articles or tweets but in early to mid September there were rumors that he had a list of teams and Miami was at the top of it, the Warriors were on it and their was a "secret team". After Giannis actually signed the extension Chris Haynes who obviously has some credibility issues reported that we were the "secret team". The fact is there were a lot of reports that Giannis was saying get better or I'm leaving in free agency and it was reported that the Bucks would not have let him walk like he was LaMarcus Aldridge or something.
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ah that rings a bell. Forgot that was last year. sheesh
 
illmatic99 said:
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No reason to "ugh" yet. The Bucks did the right thing and brought in an all star level player at a position of need that got Giannis back on board. For as much as I can't stand Neil, he did pull off the Chris Paul to the Clippers trade once upon a time without giving up Blake or DeAndre. So I know he's capable of getting done what's needed to get Dame back to being committed to staying. I just don't know if Neil will.
 
blazerkor said:
Giannis just made a list of teams he wanted to be traded to last off season... then the team made the Jrue trade and then the guy signed a supermax extension. I'm sure Dame is hoping the same tactic works but don't paint Giannis... in his seventh season to be some ride or die that Dame isn't. Get your facts straight... again.
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Bingo. This is the strategy, and he knows he can't be bluffing for it to work. He's been the good soldier, now he is playing the heavy with all of the leverage he has.

He's not bluffing, IMO. But that's good. There is no reason not to have a 2nd all star on this team. I think if Olshey can make that happen while making us a legit contender Dame will be here for the long haul.

Otherwise Olshey will be fired.

Dame is doing everything he can to give us fans what we want. I think it's incredibly hard for him to do this, and I'm grateful he is up to the challenge.
 
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The Bucks winning is the best possible result for us. CP3 will be another year older next year and Dame just saw what it's like and what the buzz is around an AUTHENTIC Championship built the old way, not the Superteam bullshit of cowards like Durant. Olshey simply has to trade CJ this summer. Unless he somehow fleeces another team of a top shelf 3 or 4 (Siakam, Kawhi, PG-13 etc.) without giving up CJ, then CJ simply must go. I believe Dame came to terms with this when CJ stepped out of bounds. I could see the moment of clarity in Dame's face when CJ did that. I saw him look at CJ like he had never truly seen him before. That gives me hope and I believe a lot of his loyalty vs. preparation talk was about CJ, Stotts and by extension Olshey.
 
blazerkor said:
Giannis just made a list of teams he wanted to be traded to last off season... then the team made the Jrue trade and then the guy signed a supermax extension. I'm sure Dame is hoping the same tactic works but don't paint Giannis... in his seventh season to be some ride or die that Dame isn't. Get your facts straight... again.
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He is ride or die
 
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