Worse? Calling a man a ****** or a terrorist?

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  • ******

    Votes: 2 28.6%
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    Votes: 5 71.4%

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You can find just as many people that, when pressed, don't know Obama's record or his platform.

Its unfortunate people don't have to qualify to vote.
 
You can find just as many people that, when pressed, don't know Obama's record or his platform.

Its unfortunate people don't have to qualify to vote.

Yeah, but they're not going around calling McCain a terrorist.

I found this on Nate Silver's blog, interesting.

This post is going to seem slightly less relevant now that Gallup has come in showing an 11-point lead for Obama. But the other five daily tracking polls (yes, there are now that many trackers) all showed movement toward John McCain.

Between the Gallup result and Obama's very strong state polling, I am inclined to think that this particular ebb in the tracking polls is mostly statistical noise. That notwithstanding, it's worth considering Chris Bowers' point at Open Left. What, realistically, is Obama's ceiling in this election?

The better a candidate's standing in the polls, the harder it ought to be pick up additional support. In part, this is simply because the more voters that you have in your column, the fewer there are available to convert. But this is still a highly partisan country, we tend to have close elections, and things certainly aren't going to be any easier for a black candidate.

If Obama is ahead by something like 7-8 points ahead nationally, that means that he has persuaded just about all of the persuadables, and he's left looking to covert people like those in Ben Smith's anecdote.

An Obama supporter, who canvassed for the candidate in the working-class, white Philadelphia neighborhood of Fishtown recently, sends over an account that, in various forms, I've heard a lot in recent weeks.

"What's crazy is this," he writes. "I was blown away by the outright racism, but these folks are f***ing undecided. They would call him a n----r and mention how they don't know what to do because of the economy."

If those sorts of people are the undecideds -- and when Obama is winning Pennsylvania by 12 points or something, that's probably what we're looking at -- then Obama really is scraping the bottom of the barrel. Further gains are going to be difficult to come by, which means that his polls are more likely to go down than to continue going up. (Indeed, our model assumes that the race will tighten some).

Then again, when six out of ten Americans thinks we're headed for a depression, perhaps the ordinary rules go out the window.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/what-is-obamas-ceiling.html
 
The Obama gang is getting ready to play the race card game once he loses the election. It's a shame really.


Not saying that he'll lose, but if he does, expect the media to go crazy with that game.
 
The Obama gang is getting ready to play the race card game once he loses the election. It's a shame really.


Not saying that he'll lose, but if he does, expect the media to go crazy with that game.

Is calling someone a terrorist really racism? Maybe after 9/11, when people called every Arab person a terrorist. But, Obama? This whole insinuating he's a terrorist thing is disgraceful by McCain.

Next up, the McCain campaign is going to try to accuse Obama of being a former member of the Socialist Party.

McCain's campaign is just getting sadder by the day.
 
Is calling someone a terrorist really racism? Maybe after 9/11, when people called every Arab person a terrorist. But, Obama? This whole insinuating he's a terrorist thing is disgraceful by McCain.

Next up, the McCain campaign is going to try to accuse Obama of being a former member of the Socialist Party.

McCain's campaign is just getting sadder by the day.
Yeah, but he helped in Kosovo!!!!!111!!!!!!11
 
Yeah, but he helped in Kosovo!!!!!111!!!!!!11


Good point . :cheers:



But really, you cannot play the race card in this day and age when they have same rights, in some cases even more, then the white men. He's running for the president of the United States, you think the black people voted him in? The majority of the votes he got to beat Hillary were white votes, and yet in his mind I'm pretty sure he has everything planned to play the race game if he is to lose. (plus the media, who are a race card whore, and make things up left and right)
 
Michelle Obama was being interviewed yesterday and was asked about many of the comments that are being made by the McCain campaign, and the McCain's specifically. She said that they (the Obama's) have a good relationship and that its not in Barrack's character to personally attack others. The Obama campaign should gather more votes simply because of his maturity.
 
Assuming i know what the ****** is i think the terrorist is the worse.

You always here Rappers and such saying ****** on their tracks and such.
 
But really, you cannot play the race card in this day and age when they have same rights, in some cases even more, then the white men.

LOL, That's ignorant.

You guys are acting like white people never play the race card. Just because he's black you think he's going to attribute a potential loss to race? Amazing.
 
Another thing, it depends on what context ****** is said. If it is tossed between two Black people thats fine. E.g. "Whts up ******"

But if a white man or other were to say it in a Negative tone e.g. You filthy ******" then that for me would mean its worse then Terrorist.
 
LOL, That's ignorant.

You guys are acting like white people never play the race card. Just because he's black you think he's going to attribute a potential loss to race? Amazing.


It's not ignorant dude, the African Americans in this country play the race card left and right whenever they feel like it, but when the white men do it, all hell breaks loose.

And yes I'll say it again, in some cases they have more rights then the white men. A lot of companies hire un-qualified African Americans (men and women) just so that they can claim that they are diverse and multicultural company, which is a effin disgrace for this country. If you're not qualified you don't deserve that position (job, whatever), simple as that, whether you're white, black, yellow or green.

And I'm not even from this country, but you can see things that like that daily, if you keep your eyes open.
 
THe best way to answer this question is by assuming you ask two people why they didn't vote for Obama. One person says "because he's a ******". The other says "because he's a terrorist".

The former is much worse to me, because the person has decided to make a decision about a candidate based solely on appearance alone. The latter, while stupid, is more acceptable, because all it shows is that somebody was able to get into their head with propaganda, and they were just naive/stupid enough to believe it.

To me, being stupid is much more acceptable than being a bigot.
 
Also to add to that, they think they deserve everything and expect everything to be given to them just because of what happened a couple of decades ago. (with all the discrimination that happened etc)

Again that's not all of them, but I would say more than 50% feel that way. Nobody deserves anything in this day and age, you have to earn everything. I have to go to school and work at the same time to earn a living, I'm not expecting the govt to give my anything, even though I suffered in the past, and left my country because of war, it's just not the type of mentality we have.
 
It's not ignorant dude, the African Americans in this country play the race card left and right whenever they feel like it, but when the white men do it, all hell breaks loose.

And yes I'll say it again, in some cases they have more rights then the white men. A lot of companies hire un-qualified African Americans (men and women) just so that they can claim that they are diverse and multicultural company, which is a effin disgrace for this country. If you're not qualified you don't deserve that position (job, whatever), simple as that, whether you're white, black, yellow or green.

And I'm not even from this country, but you can see things that like that daily, if you keep your eyes open.

What fantasy world are you living in? It is completely untrue that any one race has more rights than the other. I could just as easily argue that African Americans lack rights in other areas, you are focusing on a very tiny and inaccurate circumstance.

Don't you think that there are also some companies who don't hire African Americans simply for that reason? It goes both ways. In some cases white men have more rights as well, don't state one side and blatantly ignore the truth of the opposite.

I don't want to blow this out of proportion but you are being closed minded.
 
It's not ignorant dude, the African Americans in this country play the race card left and right whenever they feel like it, but when the white men do it, all hell breaks loose.

And yes I'll say it again, in some cases they have more rights then the white men. A lot of companies hire un-qualified African Americans (men and women) just so that they can claim that they are diverse and multicultural company, which is a effin disgrace for this country. If you're not qualified you don't deserve that position (job, whatever), simple as that, whether you're white, black, yellow or green.

And I'm not even from this country, but you can see things that like that daily, if you keep your eyes open.

In England we don't get that, we have a BIG problem with Illegal Immagrents, any Foreigner, Mainly Pakistani or from that genral area are all considered Illegals to some people. I don't for two reasons. 1) I live in the South west which isn't as badly populated with Foreign people like some place like Leicster where the British are now the Minority. 2) My Nan often had students from Other countries come over, France, Spain Russia, The Old Eastern Bloc countries, Venezualen and even a few Arabs. What I learnt from them about Culture, different ways of life etc was an amazing oppurtunity. I love Bradaning my Horizons and some people are just plain Arrogant. For example the people in the first Video thinking Obama was a Muslim. Idiots IMO.

Oh well. Ignorance is Bliss
 
Jurassic do you know who you are talking too. Forgive I'm wrong but isn't CK from a European Country (Again Forgive me If I'm wrong) so you can't talk to him about being Closed Minded. Most European countries Border a handful of other Countries so surely he is the complete opposite. I personally think the Race card is used too much. No one should Have to use a race card at all IMO. the World needs to realise this IMO
 
Also to add to that, they think they deserve everything and expect everything to be given to them just because of what happened a couple of decades ago. (with all the discrimination that happened etc)

Again that's not all of them, but I would say more than 50% feel that way.

LOL, Dude, how the hell would you know how 50% of a race feels? You can't speak for any race, even your own! Because you see this shit on FOX news and on stereotypical tv shows you are assuming it is all true.

It's amazing to me that you are basically grouping a whole race of people together as people who think they deserve things, with no actual proof of this. There are plenty of people of all races who work hard, also plenty in all races who are lazy and think they deserve things.

You can't group a whole race of people together in any aspect, positive or negative.
 
Jurassic do you know who you are talking too. Forgive I'm wrong but isn't CK from a European Country (Again Forgive me If I'm wrong) so you can't talk to him about being Closed Minded. Most European countries Border a handful of other Countries so surely he is the complete opposite. I personally think the Race card is used too much. No one should Have to use a race card at all IMO. the World needs to realise this IMO

Thank you Max. :cheers:
 
Jurassic do you know who you are talking too. Forgive I'm wrong but isn't CK from a European Country (Again Forgive me If I'm wrong) so you can't talk to him about being Closed Minded. Most European countries Border a handful of other Countries so surely he is the complete opposite. I personally think the Race card is used too much. No one should Have to use a race card at all IMO. the World needs to realise this IMO

LOL?!

So because I'm talking to a European I'm supposed to assume that he isn't being closed minded even though he is making ignorant comments?

Once again, I'm not going to ASSUME anything about someone because of their race, or where they are from! To assume that he's not being closed minded simply because he is European would be the same as assuming that all black people feel the country owes them something and are constantly playing the race card, which is exactly the assumption that he is making.
 
LOL?!

So because I'm talking to a European I'm supposed to assume that he isn't being closed minded even though he is making ignorant comments?

No I am simply saying that Bordering Many countries means he has lots of Different cultures around him at all times. I am in a similar Boat to America, maybe even more Drastic. Enlgand Borders Wales and Scotland which are the UK. So we here in the UK should be more Racist but compared to America it's nothing.

Also out of Pure Interest.

What Race are you Jurassic?
 
LOL?!

So because I'm talking to a European I'm supposed to assume that he isn't being closed minded even though he is making ignorant comments?

Once again, I'm not going to ASSUME anything about someone because of their race, or where they are from! To assume that he's not being closed minded simply because he is European would be the same as assuming that all black people feel the country owes them something and are constantly playing the race card, which is exactly the assumption that he is making.

I'm not assuming anything, its from seeing things daily in the US. I work and go to school here, I see and hear things. It's the reality in the United States. Tell an African American he's not being hired and he'll immediately play the race card. (again not all, but the majority). Tell the Caucasian guy he's not being hired and there is no race card to be played, he'll simply go looking for another job. (or go drink some beers haha)


And I watch not only Fox (who is a weak channel IMO) but also CNN, BBC, Deutsche Welle, and a bunch of other channels from the Balkans that we get from a special satelite. (including Russia Today lol)

Now tell me what news you're watching? lol
 
What Race are you Jurassic?

LOL, does it matter in the anonymity of a message board?

If I say I'm white, you would assume that I'm a ****** lover.

If I say I'm black you would assume I'm a lazy ****** who wants reparations.

For the record I'm black, never rely on the race card, and I could give a fuck about reparations. But according to CelticKing, that puts me in the minority, lol. According to Max, CK must be right since he's from Europe, lmao.
 
Being from Europe probably weakens CK's views on American issues more than it strengthens them. People who have spent their entire life in a country clearly have a better understanding of what happens there. I'm not going to move to Albania and pretend to have a vast understanding of Albanian life because I come from North America, and if I did, I don't think I'd be taken seriously.
 
I'm not assuming anything, its from seeing things daily in the US. I work and go to school here, I see and hear things. It's the reality in the United States. Tell an African American he's not being hired and he'll immediately play the race card. (again not all, but the majority). Tell the Caucasian guy he's not being hired and there is no race card to be played, he'll simply go looking for another job. (or go drink some beers haha)l

Now wait a minute.

You have never heard a white guy say that he didn't get hired because he's white? I know white people who claim that they didn't get into colleges or get jobs simply because they believe that less qualified minorities got the job due to the same (supposed) affirmative action that you are referencing to blacks, but ignoring the opposite side of. OWNED.

I've heard white people (people of all races actually) claim that all the Hispanics are taking the jobs (tell me that you've never heard this). How is that not playing the race card?

You say that you "go to school, see and hear things". Well then you must be a victim of tunnel vision because you are not seeing the big picture. All of the things that you are attributing to a single race can be attributed to all of them, be real.

Do you really think, that as successful as Obama is that he would need to play the race card if he was to lose the election? The man is wealthy and a senator! He has no need to stoop to that level. That opinion alone shows that you are ignorant.
 
Hillary and McCain's people have used the race card more than Obama's people have this election season. Bill Clinton dismisses a South Carolina victory by Obama by essentially saying any black guy can win in SC. Geraldine Ferraro, former VP candidate and top Hillary staffer said the only reason Obama was winning was because he's black. And then McCain made race an issue when he complained about an Obama line where he said he doesn't look like a typical president.
 
That god damn bitch in the terrorist video with the annoying, high pitched, north Michigan voice needs to shove a god damn cock down her mouth. She just got made a fool on the internet, hardcore.

McCain/Palin fans are going to cry in November.
 
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Hillary and McCain's people have used the race card more than Obama's people have this election season. Bill Clinton dismisses a South Carolina victory by Obama by essentially saying any black guy can win in SC. Geraldine Ferraro, former VP candidate and top Hillary staffer said the only reason Obama was winning was because he's black. And then McCain made race an issue when he complained about an Obama line where he said he doesn't look like a typical president.

The race card only seems to be an issue when the Clintons or Obama is behind in the polls.
 

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