Worst home loss since 2004

[BonesJones]

MFs I here are bipolar AF.

Last night.... I turned that shitshow off too...

But I remember when we beat Mil, Tor, Bos...

I react negatively in the moment then get over it. People should know not to get too high or low with this team.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

MFs I here are bipolar AF.

Last night.... I turned that shitshow off too...

But I remember when we beat Mil, Tor, Bos...

During games I tend to react in the moment, but usually after the game, its “on to the next one”, I mean sure I have some issues with the team but cant get to high or low.

 

[Labinot41]

[rant mode on]

there was all this feel-good nonsense after the 3 game winning streak, 2 of which were at home and 2 of which came against teams missing integral players. But the bottom line is that Portland is 6-9 over their last 15 games and 8-11 over their last 19 games. That mini-winning streak needs to be viewed in a context a little larger than just 3 games

now, here's where the apologists enter to talk about how tough the schedule has been or that teams sometimes just get blown out, even at home. That's all true but the thing is, the same apologists will excuse the Pelicans series as a match-up problem while guaranteeing that if the Blazers would have played OKC or Minny they would have won a series. Obviously, it's sunny skies all around in an alternate universe. Another way to look at all those rationalizations is it's all bullshit

because if it was just a matchup problem in the last playoff series then the Blazers wouldn't be folding this season when the schedule was difficult. And they wouldn't be coming out flat against a decades-long division rival who was on a 5 game road losing streak and getting their butts kicked all over the floor. No, Portland would be actually taking care of business and showing that this year was going to be different

but they ain't. This is the 7th year under Olshey/Stotts; and it's the 4th year of the Dame/CJ experiment. Since Dame hit that series-winning three against Houston, Portland is 7-22 in the playoffs; that's a 24% winning rate which would translate to 20-62 regular season. That sucks donkey balls, especially considering that 3 of those wins came against the Clippers without Griffin and Paul, and another came against the Warriors without Curry. Yeah, I know Portland has had some playoff injuries themselves, but you'll excuse me if I don't see equivalency between Griffin-Paul-Curry and Nurk-Harkless-Turner. Besides that, this is my rant so piss-off with your yeah-but logic

anyway, what I'm ranting about is that after 7 years of the same GM/Coach I'd expect to see improvement. At the very least I'd expect to see changes in the frequency & manner in which the Blazers are losing games. But it's still the same-old-same-old-rinse-repeat inertia. Management made the decision to build a team around Dame/CJ, giving them the lion's share of possessions & usage as well as the lion's share of the salary cap. It was a decision that had plenty of obvious dangers right from the get-go, and just about all those dangers have turned into realities. A team that reverts to midget-one-on-one whenever there is notable resistance or adversity is going to repeat the same mistakes and find the same route to losing games. And it's happening for the 4th straight year

I fully expect the Blazers will go on a hot streak again. And then they'll regress. We've seen this show before; Perry Mason never ended a show a loser, and this Blazer team will never end a season a winner

[/rant mode off]

I can only give you one like, but if i could i would give you 100 likes. You a very good poster man. Realtalk bro

 

[wizenheimer]

I can only give you one like, but if i could i would give you 100 likes. You a very good poster man. Realtalk bro

hey thanks, although I'm sure many would disagree. I do like ranting sometimes unless it's my wife ranting at me (looking over my shoulder now)

 

[e_blazer]

[rant mode on]

there was all this feel-good nonsense after the 3 game winning streak, 2 of which were at home and 2 of which came against teams missing integral players. But the bottom line is that Portland is 6-9 over their last 15 games and 8-11 over their last 19 games. That mini-winning streak needs to be viewed in a context a little larger than just 3 games

now, here's where the apologists enter to talk about how tough the schedule has been or that teams sometimes just get blown out, even at home. That's all true but the thing is, the same apologists will excuse the Pelicans series as a match-up problem while guaranteeing that if the Blazers would have played OKC or Minny they would have won a series. Obviously, it's sunny skies all around in an alternate universe. Another way to look at all those rationalizations is it's all bullshit

because if it was just a matchup problem in the last playoff series then the Blazers wouldn't be folding this season when the schedule was difficult. And they wouldn't be coming out flat against a decades-long division rival who was on a 5 game road losing streak and getting their butts kicked all over the floor. No, Portland would be actually taking care of business and showing that this year was going to be different

but they ain't. This is the 7th year under Olshey/Stotts; and it's the 4th year of the Dame/CJ experiment. Since Dame hit that series-winning three against Houston, Portland is 7-22 in the playoffs; that's a 24% winning rate which would translate to 20-62 regular season. That sucks donkey balls, especially considering that 3 of those wins came against the Clippers without Griffin and Paul, and another came against the Warriors without Curry. Yeah, I know Portland has had some playoff injuries themselves, but you'll excuse me if I don't see equivalency between Griffin-Paul-Curry and Nurk-Harkless-Turner. Besides that, this is my rant so piss-off with your yeah-but logic

anyway, what I'm ranting about is that after 7 years of the same GM/Coach I'd expect to see improvement. At the very least I'd expect to see changes in the frequency & manner in which the Blazers are losing games. But it's still the same-old-same-old-rinse-repeat inertia. Management made the decision to build a team around Dame/CJ, giving them the lion's share of possessions & usage as well as the lion's share of the salary cap. It was a decision that had plenty of obvious dangers right from the get-go, and just about all those dangers have turned into realities. A team that reverts to midget-one-on-one whenever there is notable resistance or adversity is going to repeat the same mistakes and find the same route to losing games. And it's happening for the 4th straight year

I fully expect the Blazers will go on a hot streak again. And then they'll regress. We've seen this show before; Perry Mason never ended a show a loser, and this Blazer team will never end a season a winner

[/rant mode off]

So, basically what you’re saying is that the Blazers are inconsistent, aren’t going to contend for a title, and need upgrades that you think this GM and coach can’t accomplish.

Amazing what you can say in one sentence.

 

[wizenheimer]

So, basically what you’re saying is that the Blazers are inconsistent, aren’t going to contend for a title, and need upgrades that you think this GM and coach can’t accomplish.

Amazing what you can say in one sentence.

one sip tells you what a beer tastes like, but nobody stops there

 

[e_blazer]

one sip tells you what a beer tastes like, but nobody stops there

Same applies to sniffs and farts, but usually it’s advisable to stop.

 

[wizenheimer]

Same applies to sniffs and farts, but usually it’s advisable to stop.

usually, but it depends

I use to go on hunting trips with 3 other guys. We devolved into having a kind of contest on the first night we were together. That being trying to plan out diets in the previous 12 hours or so to see who could have the grossest flatulence. It's actually an art. I think I won one time by ingesting a combination of deviled eggs, kosher pickles, tamari popcorn, and bean tacos.

the thing is you had to keep sniffing to judge the winner. It was a semi-sacred responsibility to the collective

Amazing what you can say in one sentence

I was thinking about that

next you could write a message to Earnest Hemingway saying "old man catches fish too big for his boat...big fucking deal"

does that mean I'm comparing myself to Hemingway? nope. You might be a sourpuss though but I'm not sure yet

by the way, if you do send that message, make sure you send it to the dead letter office

 

[e_blazer]

usually, but it depends

I use to go on hunting trips with 3 other guys. We devolved into having a kind of contest on the first night we were together. That being trying to plan out diets in the previous 12 hours or so to see who could have the grossest flatulence. It's actually an art. I think I won one time by ingesting a combination of deviled eggs, kosher pickles, tamari popcorn, and bean tacos

the thing is you had to keep sniffing to judge the winner. It was a semi-sacred responsibility to the collective

Some things can only be shared well with close friends. Remind me not to go hunting with you guys.

I was thinking about that

next you could write a message to Earnest Hemingway saying "old man catches fish too big for his boat...big fucking deal"

does that mean I'm comparing myself to Hemingway? nope.

Ha! Good one, although Hemmingway was generally noted for his tight prose.

You might be a sourpuss though but I'm not sure yet

Not usually. Maybe a bit of a wisenheimer sometimes though.

 

[Propagandist]

So, basically what you’re saying is that the Blazers are inconsistent, aren’t going to contend for a title, and need upgrades that you think this GM and coach can’t accomplish.

Amazing what you can say in one sentence.

We've found ourselves a CliffsNotes fan...^^^^

 

[dviss1]

So, basically what you’re saying is that the Blazers are inconsistent, aren’t going to contend for a title, and need upgrades that you think this GM and coach can’t accomplish.

Amazing what you can say in one sentence.

 

[KingSpeed]

[rant mode on]

there was all this feel-good nonsense after the 3 game winning streak, 2 of which were at home and 2 of which came against teams missing integral players. But the bottom line is that Portland is 6-9 over their last 15 games and 8-11 over their last 19 games. That mini-winning streak needs to be viewed in a context a little larger than just 3 games.

Bottom line is Blazers are 18-14 in their last 32 games and 67-47 in their last 114 games. 85-57 since Nurk joined the team. How’s that for context?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Bottom line is Blazers are 18-14 in their last 32 games and 67-47 in their last 114 games. 85-57 since Nurk joined the team. How’s that for context?

It's not championship or bust for me, but I "assume" they'll make the playoffs, but really all I want to see is "some" playoff success. Without that the regular season success feels kind of empty.

 

[TBpup]

Bottom line is Blazers are 18-14 in their last 32 games and 67-47 in their last 114 games. 85-57 since Nurk joined the team. How’s that for context?

I would submit that full context involves including what teams are playing for....the Playoffs.

0-4 in their last 4, 0-8 in their last 8, 1-12 in their last thirteen, 5-14 in their last 19......

 

[wizenheimer]

Bottom line is Blazers are 18-14 in their last 32 games and 67-47 in their last 114 games. 85-57 since Nurk joined the team. How’s that for context?

congratulations...you've cherry picked your context back to a point that Portland has a 59% winning rate which translates exactly to a 49 win season...which they had last season before folding like a cheap chair in the playoffs

you've also conveniently forgot to add that 0-8 playoff record "since Nurk Joined the team", and that has at least as much context as all the rest, if not more. Portland doesn't end seasons with a bang, it ends them with a whimper. Oh, and since Portland went on that 13 game winning streak last March, they are 23-25 over the last 48 games, and Nurkic played in every one...

....in other words, you're not the only one who can cherry-pick a biased contextual starting point for argument. But that's why I started in the 2015-16 season for Dame/CJ and 2012 for Olshey/Stotts. I allowed all the good and the bad to fill the ledger, and that good/bad absolutely has to include the playoffs. And since the Dame/CJ team was born in 2015, that good/bad scale sure looks like there's as much bad as good. At best for your point of view it's a tie. But the thing about that is that Portland started with a 44 win season and a 1st round win against a crippled team; and that was accomplished with a team 20 million below the salary cap. 3 seasons later they are on a pace for 46 wins and the prospects of wining a playoff series are cloudy, at best, and they are 8M over the tax line

so then, the real context seems to be treadmill, or purgatory, or whatever Sisyphean metaphor floats your boat...with the only substantive change being that they started with a 62M payroll and oodles of cap-space and have ended up with a 132M payroll and a large tax bill = progress, Olshey-style

 

[TBpup]

@wizenheimer ....so in short, the $$'s per win cost has increased dramatically while winning percentage is almost stagnant. I'd have to agree, 'Olshey-style' doesn't seem to be very productive or effective.

 

[THE HCP]

congratulations...you've cherry picked your context back to a point that Portland has a 59% winning rate which translates exactly to a 49 win season...which they had last season before folding like a cheap chair in the playoffs

you've also conveniently forgot to add that 0-8 playoff record "since Nurk Joined the team", and that has at least as much context as all the rest, if not more. Portland doesn't end seasons with a bang, it ends them with a whimper. Oh, and since Portland went on that 13 game winning streak last March, they are 23-25 over the last 48 games, and Nurkic played in every one...

....in other words, you're not the only one who can cherry-pick a biased contextual starting point for argument. But that's why I started in the 2015-16 season for Dame/CJ and 2012 for Olshey/Stotts. I allowed all the good and the bad to fill the ledger, and that good/bad absolutely has to include the playoffs. And since the Dame/CJ team was born in 2015, that good/bad scale sure looks like there's as much bad as good. At best for your point of view it's a tie. But the thing about that is that Portland started with a 44 win season and a 1st round win against a crippled team; and that was accomplished with a team 20 million below the salary cap. 3 seasons later they are on a pace for 46 wins and the prospects of wining a playoff series are cloudy, at best, and they are 8M over the tax line

so then, the real context seems to be treadmill, or purgatory, or whatever Sisyphean metaphor floats your boat...with the only substantive change being that they started with a 62M payroll and oodles of cap-space and have ended up with a 132M payroll and a large tax bill = progress, Olshey-style

You must be new here.....

 

[Strenuus]

We've found ourselves a CliffsNotes fan...^^^^

The abridgment magician!

 

[Propagandist]

You must be new here.....

He's verbose, but I like him.