Would We Still Be A Country If.....

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I've been reading biographies on our nation's founding fathers and I was really struck by how honorable and visionary they were. They wanted to do the right thing- both for their generation and those to come.

So it got me wondering that if someone went back in time and gathered together the top 75 or so of our founding fathers and told them that in about 225 years in this country when many children are born, and then before their entire bodies are removed from the birthing canal doctors drill holes in their heads until they die and tens of millions of people celebrate this with singing, marching, dancing and so forth as it celebrates "choice", and if we told them that in addition to that if I were to kick my dog for shitting on the floor I have a mandatory 48 hour jail sentence and in addition to that over 15% of Americans that can work choose not to and from cradle to grave they are well taken care of from overtaxation of people who work and achieve the most........ I wonder if they would have bagged the idea of a revolution and just gone some other direction.

I think they would have just stayed an English colony.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

damn kids and their music

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

damn kids and their music

HAHA. No kidding. MTV destroyed a nation.

 

[donkiez]

I think our founding fathers would more concerned with our special interest political system, religion fuzing with the state, our deteriorating education system, and our unconstitutional corporate sponsored wars.

 

[MARIS61]

Sort of contradictory that you condemn others for abortion but seem damn proud that you kick a defenseless animal.

Back in the days of the founding fathers they shot people for kicking dogs.

 

[Natebishop3]

Sort of contradictory that you condemn others for abortion but seem damn proud that you kick a defenseless animal.

Back in the days of the founding fathers they shot people for kicking dogs.

But it was okay to beat your slaves.

 

[MARIS61]

But it was okay to beat your slaves.

I guess that's what he meant by honorable and visionary.

 

[julius]

I've been reading biographies on our nation's founding fathers and I was really struck by how honorable and visionary they were. They wanted to do the right thing- both for their generation and those to come.

So it got me wondering that if someone went back in time and gathered together the top 75 or so of our founding fathers and told them that in about 225 years in this country when many children are born, and then before their entire bodies are removed from the birthing canal doctors drill holes in their heads until they die and tens of millions of people celebrate this with singing, marching, dancing and so forth as it celebrates "choice", and if we told them that in addition to that if I were to kick my dog for shitting on the floor I have a mandatory 48 hour jail sentence and in addition to that over 15% of Americans that can work choose not to and from cradle to grave they are well taken care of from overtaxation of people who work and achieve the most........ I wonder if they would have bagged the idea of a revolution and just gone some other direction.

I think they would have just stayed an English colony.

Does anyone find it funny that BlazerProphet fails to realize that abortion is also legal in England?

And that England has a national health care?

And that there is no such thing as a "mandatory" jail sentence for kicking dogs?

And the "can work but choose not to" from cradle to grave aren't "well taken care of" from "over taxation" of people who work and "achieve the most" (of which you aren't one of them BlazerProphet) is just a myth.

But hey, I can forward inaccurate emails too.

btw, why did you pick 225 years? 225 years after the "founding fathers" signed the declaration/founded the country is 2001.

It's been 225 years since the constitution was created, and that wasn't necessarily by the founding fathers as only about 6 of the men who signed the declaration, also signed the constitution.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Abortith ye British rule!

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Does anyone find it funny that BlazerProphet fails to realize that abortion is also legal in England?

And that England has a national health care?

And that there is no such thing as a "mandatory" jail sentence for kicking dogs?

And the "can work but choose not to" from cradle to grave aren't "well taken care of" from "over taxation" of people who work and "achieve the most" (of which you aren't one of them BlazerProphet) is just a myth.

But hey, I can forward inaccurate emails too.

btw, why did you pick 225 years? 225 years after the "founding fathers" signed the declaration/founded the country is 2001.

It's been 225 years since the constitution was created, and that wasn't necessarily by the founding fathers as only about 6 of the men who signed the declaration, also signed the constitution.

I have to admit I'm surprised you would work overtime to dodge the question of the thread. I mean, I expect it from others, but I wouldn't have of you.

Disappointed, man, disappointed.

 

[speeds]

Washington was against the formation of political parties.

If those guys looked at America now and only saw what you are describing, what a bunch of sandy vaginas they were.

 

[Natebishop3]

In all seriousness, I think the founding fathers would be amazed at how far the country has gone since the declaration of independence. I think they would be proud to know that we are the most powerful nation in the world, but I also think they'd be disappointed in how large the government has gotten and I know that Jefferson would be especially unhappy with how large our military is.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Our founding fathers would be impressed at how safe abortion has become compared to the methods available in their day.

 

[Natebishop3]

Our founding fathers would be impressed at how safe abortion has become compared to the methods available in their day.

Yeah, back then you just accused her of being a witch and the rest would take care of itself.

 

[julius]

I have to admit I'm surprised you would work overtime to dodge the question of the thread. I mean, I expect it from others, but I wouldn't have of you.

Disappointed, man, disappointed.

I answered it by pointing out you set up a false dichotomy.

 

[KevinJBonn]

Whoa wait a minute. I'm so tired of applying for jobs and getting nowhere in this stagnant market. There's seriously a government program where I don't have to work and they'll give me money instead of all these job hunting shenanigans? Link to application and free money please.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

What was the founding fathers thinking? Abortion should not be allowed and everyone born should be working hard and supporting themselves, that is the world founding fathers should have created.

So force women to have children, even ones with genetic deiseases and little hope of normal life (downs syndrome), and then force those kids to grow up and support themselves.

Founding fathers would be proud of that system.

 

[Nate4Prez]

Whoa wait a minute. I'm so tired of applying for jobs and getting nowhere in this stagnant market. There's seriously a government program where I don't have to work and they'll give me money instead of all these job hunting shenanigans? Link to application and free money please.

I too would like a link. I love my job, but if I could do nothing instead and get paid for it that sounds pretty damn good.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

This is retarded

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Well this thread was a waste of time starting- for reasons I'm going to pass on.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Well this thread was a waste of time starting- for reasons I'm going to pass on.

Let me know if you want me to abort it from the forum.

 

[mook]

I think they'd mostly be thrilled to see how many generations have reaped the benefits of their foresight.

However, I think they'd mostly be depressed about the Civil War. They kicked the can down the road on the issue of slavery, and the divide this issue fostered wound up resulting in America's costliest all-time war. Costliest in both terms of both human life and economy. It was America's original sin, declaring that all men are created equal except the blacks, and we certainly paid a price for that sin. Right up until (at least) the civil rights movement.

I think they'd probably fall into various camps about abortion or the social safety net, because they were humans with diverging opinions just like we are. But they'd probably feel a deep sense of shame over the slaughter and waste that the issue of slavery cost our country. Imagine where our country, and Western Civilization, would be if we hadn't spent the 1860's destroying each other, and if we hadn't so badly fucked up reconstruction.

 

[Denny Crane]

They're certainly rolling over in their graves.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Let me know if you want me to abort it from the forum.

Might as well. I mean, outside of a few posts, no sign of intelligent life around here.

 

[julius]

Might as well. I mean, outside of a few posts, no sign of intelligent life around here.

don't be so hard on yourself.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

don't be so hard on yourself.

HAHA.

Beyond that, no comment.

 

[julius]

HAHA.

Beyond that, no comment.

well, you did walk into that one.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

well, you did walk into that one.

Agreed.