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If it's much to do about nothing Lester and the Red Sox should just come out and say what it was. He's clearly seen going to the spot in his glove with his pitching hand.
 
Game is over, in the books, and the Bostons won. I was shocked by the sloppy play of Kozma, Wainright, and to a degree Freese which pretty much proved to ice the game for Boston. I'm sure though that Napoli well remembers that '11 series. I hope the Cardinals pound Lackey into the dirt tonight. By the way MLB thanks for that demonstration by Byrnes and Rizzo showing the differences in play of Hunter and Beltran on the Ortiz actual and probable bomb. I guess us dumb fans couldn't have figured the differences on our own.
 
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Yankeefan5545 said:
Game is ober, in the books, and the Bostons won. I was shocked by the sloppy play of Kozma, Wainright, and to a degree Freese which pretty much proved to ice the game for Boston. I'm sure though that Napoli well remembers that '11 series. I hope the Cardnils pound Lackey into the dirt tonight.
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Would be nice to see the Cards whack Lackey, but I'm getting tired watching teams like the Rays, Tigers, and Cardinals wet the bed against the Red Sox in these playoffs. Rays should have pushed it to 5 in their series, Tigers and Leyland coughed up that series altogether by several questionable pitching changes at the worst times, and the Cards last night? it's do or die for the St. Louis tonight.
 
Detroits GM Dombrowski is a pretty shrewd dude but he was Cashman like in filling that bullpen, and yeah Leyland did pull a couple of bad moves that really did them in. As much as I dislike the Red Sox I dislike the Rays even worse and all of this gets me really pi@@ed over the Yankees failures since '10 getting whacked by the Tigers twice.
 
...Yanx were blown out at home in the first 2 games of the '96 series...then swept the next 4 games, beating Glavine, then Neagle/Wohlers/Avery), then Smoltz, and then Maddux in succession.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...Yanx were blown out at home in the first 2 games of the '96 series...then swept the next 4 games, beating Glavine, then Neagle/Wohlers/Avery), then Smoltz, and then Maddux in succession.
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Oh, there's always a chance - heck we all know about the 0-3 hole back in 2004 that still gnaws at me. But that 96 Yankee team was a dynasty in the making - not sure any of us knew what was inside that team until they proved in that series, and we all got a great ride the next 6 years. Here? Cards have their best pitcher on the hill tonight - I think they have to win.
 
My attitude is all Boston did was hold serve. I think that this series starts to heat u after game 3, someone will be ahead 2-1 then it will get intense. Cardinals are not as bad as they were in game 1.
 
Even with the bomb to the Boston Pharmacist Wacha pitched a nice game, glad to see Lackey get the loss. Sloppy St Louis play in game one proved contagious as shown by the Bostons last night. My original call of the Cardinals in 7 still stands but it would be hilarious if the Bostons got swept in St Louis.
 
What else is new. Sox pitchers have ben the subject of doctoring the ball, been caught red handed multiple times during the year and MLB and the media just laughes it off. Apparently the secret to John Farrell's success is telling his pitchers to cheat by putting vagasil on the ball. No wonder lackey is good again suddenly out of nowhere.

Think for 1 second what would occur if any yankee pitcher was spotted with jelly in their golve, on their hand, or shiny stuff all over their arms. Think that would be laughed off?

Saying that, the Sox would have won that game anyway, but the last i checked having goo in your glove, on your hat, in your pants, on your arms etc was not allowed in MLB. Nice that NO ONE is doing anything about it and the redsox season long suck job continues.
 
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The bottom line is it's accepted across baseball IMO, the Kenny Rogers incident convinced me of that, if any team has a problem with the other team doctoring the ball, they should simply make sure their pitchers are doing the same if they want.

And it could be argued that this line of cheating for pitchers is just as performance enhancing as any PED, which is obviously a big issue, so shame on MLB for that double standard.
 
RustySpan said:
The bottom line is it's accepted across baseball IMO, the Kenny Rogers incident convinced me of that, if any team has a problem with the other team doctoring the ball, they should simply make sure their pitchers are doing the same if they want.

And it could be argued that this line of cheating for pitchers is just as performance enhancing as any PED, which is obviously a big issue, so shame on MLB for that double standard.
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If that's the case then MLB should change the rules. Like they did with pine tar on the bat.
 
If Lester was cheating then last nights final play of the game and interference call were an adequate pay back. That play could impact on this series akin to AJ Pierzinskis play in the '05 ALDS.
 
Yankeefan5545 said:
If Lester was cheating then last nights final play of the game and interference call were an adequate pay back. That play could impact on this series akin to AJ Pierzinskis play in the '05 ALDS.
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Why is that payback for cheating? It was 100% the correct call.
 
Yankeefan5545 said:
If Lester was cheating then last nights final play of the game and interference call were an adequate pay back. That play could impact on this series akin to AJ Pierzinskis play in the '05 ALDS.
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One has zero to do with the other.

The insufferable Red Sox players had the balls to complain about the right call being made while their starting pitcher cheated and it was swept under the rug.
 
Yblue said:
Why is that payback for cheating? It was 100% the correct call.
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I agree, the call was correct, where the payback comes is having a World Series game end like that. I thought that the Bostons had pulled a double dip and was surprised when the call was made. Never seen a play like that to end a series game .
 
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