You ain’t my bitch, *****! Buy your own damn fries!

[mook]

http://www.jossip.com/occasions-for-barack-to-use-his-bad-boy-voice-20090206/

Obama from back in the day.

Incidentally, I'm reading his book (Dreams From My Father) and it's a pretty good read. Regardless of your political persuasion, it's a fascinating look into race.

Besides, how often do you get the chance to read a bio of a president written years before he ever had any real hope of becoming president?

 

[DaRizzle]

This is awesome. When is the techno song version coming out?

 

[PapaG]

Sounds a bit like a white dude trying to talk jive.

 

[44Thrilla]

That statement makes no sense. Shouldn't it be "I'm not your bitch, *****." ?

 

[Minstrel]

That statement makes no sense. Shouldn't it be "I'm not your bitch, *****." ?

"You ain't my bitch" = I'm not responsible for providing for you, like I would a girlfriend/wife.

 

[maxiep]

Besides, how often do you get the chance to read a bio of a president written years before he ever had any real hope of becoming president?

Oh, I'm pretty sure he had hopes of being president when he and Bill Ayres sat down to write that tome.

 

[mook]

Oh, I'm pretty sure he had hopes of being president when he and Bill Ayres sat down to write that tome.

Yeah, I'm sure he and Ayers coldly calculated in 1995 that revealing that he snorted coke and was a pothead was a fantastic career move to escalate him to the White House in 2008. Not to mention all the amazing acts of shallowness, greed and stupidity he documents himself performing in his life, because that sort of embarassing confessional is a sure way to reach the highest office in the land.

Yeesh.

If you really think this book was a carefully conceived stepping stone designed to get him in the White House, you are mistaken, brother. It's well-written and thoughtful, but it's not the sort of thing I'm sure I'd want my kids to read about me, let alone my constituency.

Truth is that when he wrote it he was just trying to capitalize on the very minor celebrity he gained the Harvard Law Review. The book by most accounts was a failure until his recent publicity, and from what I've read so far, if I were managing his campaign a year ago I'd have wished it had never been written. His campaign was all about his Kansas roots, which really doesn't have much to do with this book.

 

[mook]

BTW--I'm curious as to what you thought about the racial experiences he had in childhood that he documents in the book, maxie. Did you feel he was just making it up? Did it strike you as phony?

Is it badly written? Overrated? Shallow? I'm curious about what you thought.

 

[maxiep]

Yeah, I'm sure he and Ayers coldly calculated in 1995 that revealing that he snorted coke and was a pothead was a fantastic career move to escalate him to the White House in 2008. Not to mention all the amazing acts of shallowness, greed and stupidity he documents himself performing in his life, because that sort of embarassing confessional is a sure way to reach the highest office in the land.

Yeesh.

If you really think this book was a carefully conceived stepping stone designed to get him in the White House, you are mistaken, brother. It's well-written and thoughtful, but it's not the sort of thing I'm sure I'd want my kids to read about me, let alone my constituency.

Truth is that when he wrote it he was just trying to capitalize on the very minor celebrity he gained the Harvard Law Review. The book by most accounts was a failure until his recent publicity, and from what I've read so far, if I were managing his campaign a year ago I'd have wished it had never been written. His campaign was all about his Kansas roots, which really doesn't have much to do with this book.

That's an awfully long response to a joke.

 

[mook]

In several posts on here, you've portrayed "Dreams From My Father" as some sort of self-promotional political stepping stone.

I'm actually reading the book now, and I'm wondering, "What the hell was maxie talking about all this time, because it's clearly not what he was describing."

Then, once again, you make such a remark. I call you out on it. You call your recent post a joke. Huh. I don't get it.

 

[mook]

Anyway, I guess I'm testy about this particular book because I think it's pretty meaningful, and it's a fantastic insight into what made a politician who he is today. Most of the political autobiographies I've read have been pretty self-promotional (as, I suspect, I'll find his second book to be when I read it.)

From what I've read so far (I'm about 2/3 through it), I think people will look on his first book as one of the best political autobiographies of all time, partially because it was written before he had any realistic hope of becoming president. So it has the ring of honesty and introspection about it you just don't see in career politicians.

 

[MickZagger]

and then Maxie P. wavers away from the thread after he gets called out. . .

Par for the course.

 

[maxiep]

In several posts on here, you've portrayed "Dreams From My Father" as some sort of self-promotional political stepping stone.

I'm actually reading the book now, and I'm wondering, "What the hell was maxie talking about all this time, because it's clearly not what he was describing."

Then, once again, you make such a remark. I call you out on it. You call your recent post a joke. Huh. I don't get it.

Because I was joking. The mention of Bill Ayres should have tipped you off.

 

[maxiep]

and then Maxie P. wavers away from the thread after he gets called out. . .

Par for the course.

Or, as an alternative idea, I spent the night with my wife and kid. It always amuses me to watch you wriggle on the hook.

 

[MickZagger]

How convenient it must be to reply with, "its just a joke".

The it was a joke card is a convenient one, at anyone's disposal at all times.

 

[maxiep]

How convenient it must be to reply with, "its just a joke".

The it was a joke card is a convenient one, at anyone's disposal at all times.

For example, every time you step up to a urinal.

Sorry, but the Bill Ayres line was a dead giveaway. It's not my fault you were too dense to get it.

 

[MickZagger]

Because you've been full of satire when discussing Obama's affiliations in the past.
Any jab you can get in your all over.

 

[Shooter]

"Sorry-ass motherfucker . . . ignorant motherfucker . . . You ain't my bitch, ***** . . . "

???

Gee, I'm so glad we elected this guy. He's really going to class up the White House.

 

[maxiep]

Because you've been full of satire when discussing Obama's affiliations in the past.
Any jab you can get in your all over.

It wasn't satire. It was a warning. As for any jab I can get in, I'll prove you right by mentioning how embarrassing it must be for Gonzaga that you still don't know your homophones.

 

[Karl Malone's Elbows]

"Sorry-ass motherfucker . . . ignorant motherfucker . . . You ain't my bitch, ***** . . . "

???

Gee, I'm so glad we elected this guy. He's really going to class up the White House.

Please don't act like this offends you. Bush has far more ugly sound bites and you know it.

 

[Shooter]

Please don't act like this offends you. Bush has far more ugly sound bites and you know it.

It does offend me. Call me crazy, but I don't like the idea of having a a president who tosses the term "mother-fucker" around and uses racist language so casually. If Bush ever used this kind of language, please provide me with a clip of it. I'd like to hear it. Until then, I will assume that he never spoke this way.

 

[The Professional Fan]

That is great stuff. I love it.

 

[The Professional Fan]

It does offend me. Call me crazy, but I don't like the idea of having a a president who tosses the term "mother-fucker" around and uses racist language so casually. If Bush ever used this kind of language, please provide me with a clip of it. I'd like to hear it. Until then, I will assume that he never spoke this way.

You do understand the context of the audio clips, right?

 

[Shooter]

You do understand the context of the audio clips, right?

Sure. I also understand when someone is using gutter language, no matter whether he's reading it or repeating what someone else said. A lot of people wouldn't have put that kind of language in their book to begin with, but Obama did. That says a lot about him.

 

[The Professional Fan]

Sure. I also understand when someone is using gutter language, no matter whether he's reading it or repeating what someone else said. A lot of people wouldn't have put that kind of language in their book to begin with, but Obama did. That says a lot about him.

Not really. But you're entitled to your opinion!

Who's the chick in your avatar? I have to google her.

 

[Karl Malone's Elbows]

It does offend me. Call me crazy, but I don't like the idea of having a a president who tosses the term "mother-fucker" around and uses racist language so casually. If Bush ever used this kind of language, please provide me with a clip of it. I'd like to hear it. Until then, I will assume that he never spoke this way.

• "The Constitution is just a goddamn piece of paper"
  
• "Tell them to stop doing this shit"
  
• “[Dick Cheney is a] lying, do-nothing sack of shit"
  
• "[Chief of Staff Josh Bolten is] a cock-sucker son-of-a-bitch"
  
• "There's Adam Clymer, major-league asshole from The New York Times."
  
• "You fucking son of a bitch. I saw what you wrote. We’re not going to forget this." - Bush to then Wall Street Journal Washington bureau chief Al Hunt in a Dallas restaurant in front of other diners, including Hunt’s wife, Judy Woodruff, and 4-year-old son
  
• In interviews with a number of White House staffers who were willing to talk off the record, a picture of an administration under siege has emerged, led by [Bush] who declares his decisions to be ‘God’s will’ and then tells aides to ‘fuck over’ anyone they consider to be an opponent of the administration…. [Bush] who says he rules at the behest of God can also tongue-lash those he perceives as disloyal, calling them ‘fucking assholes’ in front of other staff, berating one cabinet official in front of others.” “In interviews with a number of White House staffers who were willing to talk off the record, a picture of an administration under siege has emerged, led by [Bush] who declares his decisions to be ‘God’s will’ and then tells aides to ‘fuck over’ anyone they consider to be an opponent of the administration…. [Bush] who says he rules at the behest of God can also tongue-lash those he perceives as disloyal, calling them ‘fucking assholes’ in front of other staff, berating one cabinet official in front of others.”[/URL]
  
• Turns out President Bush has quite the mouth, following in a rich tradition of cussing presidents. "He uses the 'F' word as an adjective, a verb, and a noun," says one adviser. Ditto for the "S" word. But not often in anger. "It's more conversational," adds the insider, "like how guys talk."
  
• Bush has been known to use salty language. At the Republican National Convention in 1988, he was asked by a Hartford Courant reporter about what he and his father talked about when they weren't talking about politics. "Pussy," Bush replied.
  
• “That’s who this president is,” said Press Secretary Tony Snow. “A little randy at times. But a tough customer, and he speaks his mind."

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Sure. I also understand when someone is using gutter language, no matter whether he's reading it or repeating what someone else said. A lot of people wouldn't have put that kind of language in their book to begin with, but Obama did. That says a lot about him.

 

[Shooter]

It would seem you are right, Karl Malone's Elbows. I had no idea Bush talked like that. Makes me think less of him, for sure. Both he and Obama claim to be Christians, and yet they speak like foul-mouthed punks. Pretty sad.

 

[STOMP]

Sure. I also understand when someone is using gutter language, no matter whether he's reading it or repeating what someone else said. A lot of people wouldn't have put that kind of language in their book to begin with, but Obama did. That says a lot about him.

Bush spent his 20's and 30's unemployed, was arrested multiple times, and reportedly abused (not dabbled in) alcohol and cocaine. How can you stand up for that guy and now criticize BO for a book he wrote confessing the comparatively minor sins of his youth?

CME's links aren't some new revelation. Where have you been?

STOMP

 

[Shooter]

Bush spent his 20's and 30's unemployed, was arrested multiple times, and reportedly abused (not dabbled in) alcohol and cocaine. How can you stand up for that guy and now criticize BO for a book he wrote confessing the comparatively minor sins of his youth?

Gee, I guess you're right. Obama is a saint, compared to Bush. He only did dope and coke, hung out with terrorists, racists, and hate-mongers, got favors from the mob in Chicago, and threw his friends under the bus when it became politically necessary.

CME's links aren't some new revelation. Where have you been?

Crawl back in your hole, STOMP.

 

[STOMP]

Gee, I guess you're right. Obama is a saint, compared to Bush. He only did dope and coke, hung out with terrorists, racists, and hate-mongers, got favors from the mob in Chicago, and threw his friends under the bus when it became politically necessary.

Oh TH you're so funny (and confused) when you get mad. Where did I say Barack was a saint? Please show me the quote. Bush was a well know waste of space as a young adult. He was a drunk, a drunk driver, and a coke head. He went AWOL from his sweet gig with the National Guard that allowed him to dodge the draft, and he enjoyed his 20's and 30's without a job. None of that garnered any criticism from you. But Obama writing a book about bad things he did in his late teens/early 20's to show where he's come from "says a lot about him"... seems like a double standard you've got going.

Crawl back in your hole, STOMP.

I'm the one who lives in a hole when you claim ignorance on common knowledge facts about the guy you've been trumpeting for the last 8 years

TH you do good irony!

STOMP