Your Feelings On The Subject Of....

[Karma]

Love/Relationships.

From people I know and my experiences myself...love in highschool is almost impossible IMO. I used to have this philosphy of "waiting for the right one" (which seems funny cause I was in like...grade 9 or 10 when that came into my head)...but a couple of "right ones" later, that theory faded kind of fast and now I'm at the "single till I can find someone who actually appeals to me without annoying the sh*t out of me" stage. Sooner or later the positives turn into a negative (it's just a matter of time). And from the people that I know have been together for years...it's usually those on-again/off-again relationships that annoy me or anyone else who has to listen to the girls moan and complain about how they got into a fight with the boyfriend, broke up with them...cry about it...and then get back with them the next day. That pisses me off more then anything. I'd rather have the girl hate me and us not talking then have to go thru breaking up and then getting back together every week.

I'm not a pessimistic person in reality (

my bad if this makes me sound like one), the issue's just frustrating cause girls, in all honesty, don't know what the hell they want (atleast in high school)...in terms of the situation they're in or even the guy they're with. Or maybe us guys are the problem. Who knows?

Anyways, just tryin to spark a talk. I'm done my assignments and got a late start tommorow for school cause of spares, so might as well

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Actually, the real reason I started this thread was cause I saw this kid who I kinda know today who's been dealing the same girl for 3 years. And the girl treats him like SHIAAATTTT, from everythin she says to everythin she does...and is basically just usin the dude...yet he keeps sayin he loves her...yet they've been on and off for the 3 years. I was talkin to my friends about it and feeling bad for the guy. Forget 3 years, I wouldn't be able to last a month trying to talk to a girl who treats me like dirt.

 

[M Two One]

Well, most of my friends always turn to me for advice on relationships because I've seen the worst and currently have one of the best examples of how a relationship should be. I always seem to turn them in the right direction, despite their age younger or older. I'm just good on that, that's why I'm likely to look into some kind of counseling career or psychology.

I understand where you're coming from about high school relationships. I remember the worst ones are really the girls that have so much money at home and yet are so depressed and believe they have nothing in life. Then they cut their wrists the wrong way to gain attention from people or sympathy it is really all common from what I've experienced. Same thing with the break up every week crap. I never went through that myself, but i've had plenty of friends that did and let me tell you just knowing about it is probably worse then them having to deal with it. Every damn day I remember bitching and moaning about why the other one is the problem. At the end of the day I just want to rip my ears off my skull and drive into a lake just to get away from the babble. If it is a good friend it is to that point because you drive them around and yet still they're going on and on about it.

 

[Karma]

Actually, my position is really similar to yours wherein everyone comes to me with thier problems about relationships and crap and I'll always listen to people. That's just how I am, I'll listen to anyone's problem and in the end they'll end up feeling like I really listened (which I actually do...unless it's some random girl I don't know rambling about how rich her dad is, which has actually happened).

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I remember the worst ones are really the girls that have so much money at home and yet are so depressed and believe they have nothing in life.
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Well, I've never had to deal with anything like that. Not to spark this topic in a racial divide either, but I hang around brown girls and brown guys so if anyone had a cut wrist, practically the whole world would know about it

. There's only been some people I (indirectly) know who've done that, but it's only been stories like after some dude lost a girl after 5 years or something along those lines. But in terms of my personal circle, I've yet to deal with anything that serious stemming due to relationships.

--Rant starts---

Alternately, my biggest problem is those overly independent girls who think the world revolves around them, even if they don't admit it. They always think their problem is the biggest problem in the world. Funniest thing is when you try to tell them YOUR problem, they just brush it off and tell you more about thier own problem. I've had to deal with a bunch of them in my life, and I've realized that my biggest downfall is falling for independent girls in the first place. The thing about the Independent Girl is that she knows how to talk and act charming and her personality always draws you near...but the more you get to know independent girls, you realize that most of them (not all, cause one of my best friends is one) are just filled with egos the size of a football feild...and they need a guy who basically always kisses thier ass in order for them to feel good about themselves and feel SUPERIOR to the male (perhaps my biggest and most useful observation I've gained from high school lol). By the time you figure that out, you're too late. Not only do you lose a great friendship, but you also end up realizing how big of assholes they really are, which tempts you to hate them (which I really try to avoid but sometimes...you can't help it)

They usually just use guys as a medium to achieving whatever their means at the time is...and the fact that horny guys who wouldn't know what to say to a girl if thier life depended on it keep gassing them up with thier "lines" only makes the situations worse and boosts thier egos even more, which pisses the shi*t out of guys like me and many others who are sick of girls like that.

--End of rant---

 

[M Two One]

Well your rant is similar to what I was explaining about those that cut themselves. They're so unhappy, but they have everything they really need except someone to kiss their ass aside from their own parents. That's just life my friend. Also so you know I have more "brown" friends than "white" friends because I speak French with the Algerian crowd. heh.

EDIT* Anyway I'm bored and tired as hell, dude. I'm off to bed. Continue with this tomorrow then.

 

[Karma]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting M Two One:</div><div class="quote_post">Well your rant is similar to what I was explaining about those that cut themselves. They're so unhappy, but they have everything they really need except someone to kiss their ass aside from their own parents. That's just life my friend. Also so you know I have more "brown" friends than "white" friends because I speak French with the Algerian crowd. heh.

EDIT* Anyway I'm bored and tired as hell, dude. I'm off to bed. Continue with this tomorrow then.</div>

Well, me and you basically agree on the same things. No one else wants to weigh in any opinion?

As for the brown/white thing, I only mentioned that cause everyone around here just tends to stick to thier own race even though it's quite a multicultural environment. I think based upon experiences in life, everyone tends to racially profile, even when it comes to relationships. For example, set on the notion of everything I have seen and people who I have talked to, I could jump to the conclusion that *some* white kids tend to inflict more unneccessary harm upon themselves as a means of grabbing attention (like you mentioned), as opposed to brown kids who wouldn't even dream of trying that sh*t cause they would be sh*t scared of thier parents finding out.

Contrarily, there are alot of white kids who think things out and act accordingly when it comes to relationships wheras a lot of brown kids tend to do things more so according to what thier rep is...for example, if a "gangster" brown guy gets dumped...he often plays it off by acting big and starts calling the girl a slut for absolutely no reason. Just some things I've noticed/been exposed to.

 

[Smitty]

Around here I see black guys with white women, vice versa. Interracial relationships happen alot around here.

I haven't really been involved in any relationship since I started college..there has been those times when you have those moments like you see this girl..she's a real nice, intelligent kind of girl, attractive. And you know you could probably start a relationship with her..but you don't give it much thought and you let the opprotunity slip from under you. The kicker is, it probably doesn't hit you until about a year later, when you see her again and realize that yall couldv'e been great together...yeah that happened to me last year.

And the brown and white thing...I'm "brown" ..and really if you know whenever I get the dump, of course I'm a little discontent about it, but I pretty much get over after a day. Sure you could take the easy way out of it and act "gangsta" but really, you can't really hide it. Guys lie to protect their reputation all the time.

 

[P.A.P.]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Smitty:</div><div class="quote_post">There has been those times when you have those moments like you see this girl..she's a real nice, intelligent kind of girl, attractive. And you know you could probably start a relationship with her..but you don't give it much thought and you let the opprotunity slip from under you. The kicker is, it probably doesn't hit you until about a year later, when you see her again and realize that yall couldv'e been great together...yeah that happened to me last year.

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^ Same with me.

Mine was a bit awkward. she was the nicest girl in the school. Met her in Grade 10, September, (though she was in my classes the previous year) became friends, then became close friends, I started to like her in around February, then I found out she liked me in around May, and that day was amazing. The feeling and everything was nice. Became really close with her from May-June until October, by that time, she was like anticpating for me to go out with her (my friends were real close with her). Though, I wanted to make sure she was right for me, because things with me and her were a little up and down to start the school year. Everything was perfect until December, when I was about to deal with her until she took her friends side in a stupid incident and didn't talk to me for a couple days. I was like f**k it, even though I still liked her.

Things just faded after, I didnt talk to her for a week or two, in person or on MSN. At the same time she liked another guy, now shes going out with him, though they tried to keep it undercover for a while. I was still pissed about the situation for a while, and didn't talk to her in a conversation until May, at her best friends party where I was like almost drunk at the time.

Now we just talk a little, and I think about what could of been sometimes when I see her with her a boyfriend (who I have some beef with from another incident after). Like if the whole not talking incident didnt happen with her, I could of been wifing that right now, but that's life. I'm not really into the whole flex thing.

 

[asdf]

When ever a girl rejects me I cut myself and listen to emo music while questioning why society hates me so much as I apply my gothic eye liner.

Anyway, carry on.

 

[Mr. J]

Girls are too complicated for us to fully understand the subject of love.

 

[Karma]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Smitty:</div><div class="quote_post">And the brown and white thing...I'm "brown" ..and really if you know whenever I get the dump, of course I'm a little discontent about it, but I pretty much get over after a day. Sure you could take the easy way out of it and act "gangsta" but really, you can't really hide it. Guys lie to protect their reputation all the time.</div>

Sadly, I can't just get over girls that I've spent months being together with in my life in a day or so. That's just how I am. The last girl I was with got over me faster then I got over her which really pissed me off

But it's all good.

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Around here I see black guys with white women, vice versa. Interracial relationships happen alot around here.
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I think there was only ONE interracial couple in the school last year....and they graduated this year. I think this year there's a asian/brown mix in one of the younger grades...that's it. Wait, in your school, there's white GUYS that deal black girls? Our school is ridicuously divided by race. Forget dating, even hi/bye between interacials outside of class is rare. I think the only exception to being "brown" and interracially mixing is trinny girls/guys who deal anything from black to "pure brown" to Trinny itself.

 

[P.A.P.]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Sadly, I can't just get over girls that I've spent months being together with in my life in a day or so. That's just how I am. The last girl I was with got over me faster then I got over her which really pissed me off

But it's all good.
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Solution: Chop a nice girl immediately.

Good way to start a conversation.. "hey weren't you at brown/punjabi/desi/whatever day at wonderland?"

 

[Chutney]

Junoon, what school do you go to?

 

[asdf]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Solution: Chop a nice girl immediately.</div>

Yeah, give her one right in the jugular.

 

[Karma]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting P.A.P.:</div><div class="quote_post">Solution: Chop a nice girl immediately.

Good way to start a conversation.. "hey weren't you at brown/punjabi/desi/whatever day at wonderland?"</div>

Nah, the thing is, our grade is kind of compacted since everyone knows everyone (I mean that like all the brown guys know every brown guy/girl). I know pretty much every brown girl in my grade....either they're taken or I just see them as friends and could never see em as anything more or they just don't appeal to me or I just can't connect with them. A couple are always in my head but they end up having personalties that piss me off. I talk to almost every girl man...and that wonderland line doesn't work, trust it.

and I go to Fletchers...its a new school (got built like two years ago). I think it's the biggest school in peel or somehting...I don't know? But its pretty huge, yeah. You went to Ching right? P.A.P, what school do you reach?

 

[Chutney]

I went to Heart Lake actually, but I live in the Ching area.

You're right though, Fletcher's is a big school. I remember everyone from Lake moving to it when it opened up.

 

[Karma]

Sorry to go off track, but I was supposed to go to HL...but then people from our area got switched to HB cause HL had no space...and then we all had to transfer to Fletchers when it opened up. HL is a cool school though, I know some people from there.

 

[Chutney]

I liked it. It was funny, because a lot of the people in my year were cast offs from other schools (Ching, Park, Turner, BCSS, etc.) and were used to a hardcore gangster environment. Lake is tame, but in a good way. In my senior year it was pretty chilling and less segregated than most high schools. Right now my bro is in Brathwaite and hearing his story's and stuff makes me glad I didn't have to go somewhere else. Not sure if it's the same now though, because the grade 11's and 10's were pretty gay (I'm sure every senior thinks that).

 

[deception]

i suggest older women since you're all down on high school girls, if that fails, well u know your other option.

 

[Chutney]

1st/2nd year college girls are no better if you're looking for a long term relationship. They get all gassed up because they're away from home (especially the brown ones) and just keep talking about how much they party and stuff. I can definitely relate to you about girls that tease for compliments and attention. The best feeling is watching the look on their face when you don't play into their little games.

 

[deception]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chutney:</div><div class="quote_post">1st/2nd year college girls are no better if you're looking for a long term relationship. They get all gassed up because they're away from home (especially the brown ones) and just keep talking about how much they party and stuff. I can definitely relate to you about girls that tease for compliments and attention. The best feeling is watching the look on their face when you don't play into their little games.</div>

i concur, i just graduated last spring from university and i couldn't stand half the people, girl or guy. although, i met some cool girls who truly enriched my experiences.

 

[Karma]

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I liked it. It was funny, because a lot of the people in my year were cast offs from other schools (Ching, Park, Turner, BCSS, etc.) and were used to a hardcore gangster environment. Lake is tame, but in a good way. In my senior year it was pretty chilling and less segregated than most high schools. Right now my bro is in Brathwaite and hearing his story's and stuff makes me glad I didn't have to go somewhere else. Not sure if it's the same now though, because the grade 11's and 10's were pretty gay (I'm sure every senior thinks that).
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Your brother goes to HB? I went to that school in grade 9 when it was only grade 9's and 10's there...and it was messed up even then. There's only like 20 white guys in that whole school...but that's a given since it's in Springdale. And yeah, that school's mostly known for it's beefing and stuff...pretty messed up.

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i suggest older women since you're all down on high school girls, if that fails, well u know your other option
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I've yet to deal a girl older then me. Some of my friends did it, and they tended to last in those relationships more cause the girl is more "mature" (seemingly).

I'm not "down" on high school girls like you say, it's just that I've just seen every type of girl there is in my school and it's annoying that most of them are just...typical in the end. Either they want attention, or they're confused about what they want (or both), or they're digging some druggie dude who'll end up abusing them because they only want them for sex (which happens ALOTTTTTTTT, and then the girl comes back and starts complaining afterwards). Or they're just plain annoying.

 

[Run BJM]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Junoon:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not "down" on high school girls like you say, it's just that I've just seen every type of girl there is in my school and it's annoying that most of them are just...typical in the end. Either they want attention, or they're confused about what they want (or both), or they're digging some druggie dude who'll end up abusing them because they only want them for sex (which happens ALOTTTTTTTT, and then the girl comes back and starts complaining afterwards). Or they're just plain annoying.</div>
That pretty much sums it up IMO (as far as high school girls go). You either get a girl who won't shut the f*** up and it's all about her, a girl who will shut the f*** up (rare) but she's got a bunch of other problems and has no idea what she wants and you end up having to listen to her and try to help her but she won't help herself, or a skank who will give it up to anyone to gain acceptance with the guys. Granted these are broad generalizations, probably largely influenced by my experiences, but it's rare to find any girl who wants a meaningful relationship in high school.

 

[P.A.P.]

Junoon...I goto Woodlands aka the ghettoist school in 'sauga, though I know people from schools all around 'sauga. It's really multi-cultural (lots of brown people). We have this thing everywhere called Intenrnational Bizzarre, and last year we had CTV come to the event because its so big.

 

[Trip]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting P.A.P.:</div><div class="quote_post">Junoon...I goto Woodlands aka the ghettoist school in 'sauga, though I know people from schools all around 'sauga. It's really multi-cultural (lots of brown people). We have this thing everywhere called Intenrnational Bizzarre, and last year we had CTV come to the event because its so big.</div>
Chop one of the grade 7 girls at your school.

 

[P.A.P.]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Locke:</div><div class="quote_post">Chop one of the grade 7 girls at your school.

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Ah...nothing below Grade 11 for me...my school has to be the ugliest in 'sauga. No jokes.

 

[Karma]

Why, what kind of girls is it filled with? Your school is elementary + highschool??

 

[P.A.P.]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Junoon:</div><div class="quote_post">Why, what kind of girls is it filled with? Your school is elementary + highschool??</div>

It's Grade 7-12. I've only been going there since Grade 9 though. I was suppose to go another school (Father Goetz) but my sister is enhance and went to Woodlands so my dad made me go there to make life easier. It's extremely ghetto though.

 

[Trip]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting P.A.P.:</div><div class="quote_post">It's Grade 7-12. I've only been going there since Grade 9 though. I was suppose to go another school (Father Goetz) but my sister is enhance and went to Woodlands so my dad made me go there to make life easier. It's extremely ghetto though.</div>
Goetz would be more ghetto. Nothing beats Cawthra in terms of "no-ghettoness". Well, maybe Lorne Park, but Cawthra has a lot of gay people. How un-ghetto is that?

 

[P.A.P.]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Locke:</div><div class="quote_post">Goetz would be more ghetto. Nothing beats Cawthra in terms of "no-ghettoness". Well, maybe Lorne Park, but Cawthra has a lot of gay people. How un-ghetto is that?</div>

Didn't the gay guy from Degrassi goto your school?

 

[Karma]

Oh yeah, if you guys wanna check what my school is...Watch Keisha Chante's new video "Been Gone" (youtube Keisha Chante if you want)..it was actually shot on location at my school. We had a chance to attend the shoot but me and my friends didn't get to reach it that day. In a Inside ET interview she says it's her "former highschool" but apperently she's coming back in October or something...I just remember her being there when I was in grade 10 and seeing her around once in a while. I really didn't care. There'd always be like 15 guys around her at a given time, it was quite funny. Honestly, she's REALLY short in person (from the last time I saw her)....and she's not as bomb as some of the other girls in our school, but she is hell of a lot more talented artistically.

Anyway, it's really strage to see your school in an actual music video. I just saw the video for myself yesterday.