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  1. Rastapopoulos

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    I remember being so jealous of Phoenix for being about to land Ayton. I thought he was going to be like a healthy Greg Oden.
     
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    I remember being so envious of Phoenix for being about to draft Doncic, and then watching incredulously as three teams (Atlanta included) completely shit the bed.
     
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    Ayton is a core piece for our young team..I love the guy as our center. Best starting center since Oden.
     
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    He's perhaps got quicker feet than Oden, good feet for a big man, but 25% of the heart of Oden.
     
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    Glad you said "Heart".
     
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    What do you love about him? His sub-50% shooting as a center? Far-below league-average TS%? The fact that barely 1/4 of his shots are at the rim? His shot-blocking percentage that's lower than CJ's? Other than his rebounding--which is basically average for starting centers--what do you love about him?
     
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    He's a nice guy?
     
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    I do love that. He seems to love Portland, love being here...but I don't know that that's really the most important characteristic for a core piece.
     
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    How often does Ayton make this kind of effort to score at the hoop when he gets the ball at this spot on the edge of the key? I'd say ten percent? less than 10 percent of his touches?

    I have less than 10 percent expectation of a dunk from Ayton in this situation.

    Interesting quote by Barrett " Oden and Bynum will see a lot of each other in the future."


     
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    If 2024 Ayton were also in that clip, he'd have been the 3rd best center on the court.
     
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    Ooh. I was worried you would say something else for the 25% and this is a family website.
     
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    Agreed.

    I couldn't see why Ayton was in the conversation for #1 pick. I watch him live when he disappeared in the NCAA Tournament vs #15 seed Buffalo.

    Doncic was the easy/obvious pick during that draft.
     
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    Ayton was called a generational talent and guess who else was? Zion!
    This is why the draft is a crap shoot.
    Wemby is good. Very good to say the least but we just watched what happens when he tweaks an ankle. He has been reduced to human.
     
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    His speed. His midrange shot. His rebounding and his unselfish play. he gets to the line. given he’s rarely played with the same starting lineup. I can wait for his chemistry to gel
     
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    WUT?

    he doesn't get to the line at all. He might be the worst at getting to the line among all NBA C's.

    last season:

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    this season:

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    last season, Ayton ranked 218th out of 240 qualified NBA players in FT rate. Horford was the only C with a worse rate
     
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    He gets plenty of and one free throws. I’m not interested in his past stats. I like what I see from him this season and he’s not had much roster stability in Portland so far. I think he’s a keeper Banton is listed as our best guy getting to the line but he doesn’t play Ayton minutes…last season shows Badji as that guy. We’ll see how Ayton does at the end of the season but he’s looking way better to me starting this season
     
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    He's had precisely 2 and-one free throws this season (1-for-2 on those). I think he had fewer than 10 last year.

    I think you have a different definition of "plenty" than I do.
     
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    he's played 7 games so far and in 4 of those games, he didn't get to the line once. Last season, out of 55 games, he had 27 games when he didn't get to the line

    getting to the line is one of the things he's really bad at. His career FT rate is .193 and it's much worse than that in Portland

    career FT rate:


    Gobert .709
    Plumlee .558
    Embiid .553
    Nick Richards .533
    Powell .512
    Jarrett Allen .451
    Adamns .441
    Adebayo .430
    AD .410
    Zubac .392
    Claxton .384
    Nurkic .383
    Sengun .378
    Sabonis .377
    Duren .362
    Carer Jr .340
    Looney .338
    Capela .337
    Jaren Jackson .334
    Valunciunas .329
    Kat .324
    Jokic .317
    Myle Turner .310
    Wemby .307
    Poeltl .305
    Holmgren .299

    Ayton .193
     

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