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  1. PCmor7

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    Cemeteries, Trump Towers, same difference.
     
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    PCmor7 Generational Poster

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    You might want to read up on your history before you post more on this subject.
     
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    First off, the Islamic people never have been particularly tolerant of a mass foreign presence, let alone foreign occupiers.

    Second, Egypt and Jordan haven't wanted the people from Gaza. Egypt actually has closed its doors to Gazans. The only way they might take them is if Trump uses U.S. funds to pay those countries to take them.

    Otherwise, we're probably looking at a mass refugee migration similar to the one from Syria that caused such turmoil in the Middle East and Europe.

    This is going to require a pretty massive U.S. military presence. Islamists won't be able to get to Trump, so they'll just target our soldiers instead. If you have friends and family involved in the U.S. armed forces, my heart goes out to you.

    Then we've got the idea of increased terrorist plots here in the U.S. Remember, Osama bin Laden started as an ally with the Mujahadeen, the precursor to al Qaeda.

    With Tulsi Gabbard now in charge of our intelligence, our usual allies probably won't be as forthcoming with us with intel, including those that involve attacks against our people or on our soil.

    Yeah, this is a powder keg. Very high probability this leads to a lot of death, not anything close to peace.
     
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    PCmor7 Generational Poster

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    Luckily, I didn't order anything from Temu recently.
     
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    Thats part of my thinking and it really is just a thought, that region needs some definite help by other countries in rebuilding.
     
  7. Chris Craig

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    Trump Towers built on top of cemeteries
     
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    No… helping rebuild from a tragic situation.
    You think I’m advocating Ethnic Cleansing?
     
  9. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    No, they won't take them. They refused Trump's demand.
     
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    I didnt realize Trump had demanded it?
    For me like Japan, West Germany and South Korea they were rebuilt after the war, and its been good.
     
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    Big difference there is that we didn't force the Japanese to leave Japan, the Germans to leave Germany, or the Koreans to leave Korea.

    Nor did we claim ownership of any of those countries.

    barfo
     
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    I get that tot sure but they were rebuilt by us and other countries. Thats all im saying.
     
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    Korea and Germany literally were split and Korea still is. If you think North Korea's a great situation for the world, I really don't know what to tell you.

    Japan was occupied.

    And none of these people were forced to leave their lands.

    You don't think you're advocating ethnic cleansing, and I don't think you mean to be advocating ethnic cleansing, but you are advocating ethnic cleansing. You're talking about a mass displacement of a sovereign people against its wishes.
     
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    That's such a dangerous combination of not understanding the history or the geopolitical situation of a region and, again, I strongly urge you to read up a little about that part of the world. What your suggesting almost certainly will lead to a tremendous loss of lives, including hundreds of Americans, and possibly some in North America.

    The Twin Towers were attacked because Islamists felt the United States shouldn't be interfering in their part of the world. What exactly do you think will happen when we try to turn one of their occupied territories, an actual homeland, into a resort?
     
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    I guess he more lied and said they would take them when they said and continue to say no. He keeps trying to insist otherwise to force the matter. They refused to displace a people from their land and cause further unrest in the middle east and beyond.

    We didn't ask any of those people to leave their country/land, take control of it, and build a resort.

    The Palestinian people have fought for and to keep a place to call their home for many decades. Trump's plan fails to consider what forcing them out will mean.

    We have no business occupying or taking control of that land.
     
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    I agree
    My hope is other arab countries will offer to help out. Looks like Turkey Qatar and Egypt are wanting to w/o disbursing the people.
     
  18. Chris Craig

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    Egypt said no. I don't know about the other two. Trump has been told no because these other countries consider such a displacement to be ethnic cleansing. They don't want their hands on it.
     
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    This this this this. “Oh maybe they can live somewhere else, at least then they’re alive” isn’t a silver lining, it’s not making anything better; it sounds like apologia for Trail of Tears. Like PC said above, I don’t believe you’re meaning anything bad by it, but the suggestion is really tone deaf.
     
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    I can almost guarantee you Turkey and Qatar aren't taking refugees.

    Egypt hasn't been open to refugees from Gaza for decades. Other countries have been asked and refused. They're all afraid of the same thing -- that you're opening your borders to Hamas.

    And, you know what? What Trump's doing is one big recruiting campaign for Hamas. Taking a bunch of people, blowing up their homes and relocating them against their will thousands of miles away so you can make "The Riviera of the Middle East" is just the kind of thing that radicalized people.

    If anyone wants to know why people all over the world hate us, it's this kind of casual ignorance. We don't bother even glancing at a textbook or talking to someone. We just think we know a little so we know the whole thing and we're going to impose our will on a bunch of people we don't know or care about or having anything to do with their lives once we remove them. This is how we got 9/11. This is how we got the border crisis from destabilizing Central America.

    Just plain casual ignorance.
     

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