Ginobili is going to be better than Kobe

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  1. Diesel

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting babybluerose07:</div><div class="quote_post">ginobili may get better then kobe but he will never be better then jordan neither will kobe or lebron so people need to just stop comparing all them to jordan. Maybe one day there will be a next jordan but not for a while</div>

    LOL no one in here compared any one to Jordan so maybe you should go buy reading glasses. Also how is LeBron in here? Also Ginobili is in his prime, and Kobe is already much better than him. Gwt Jordan out of here I'm sick of hearing that name all the time.
     
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    This thread is a bit farfethced, even for some of the Kobe haters on this board.
    First, Ginobili is older then Kobe, so him "being better then Kobe later on" is actually inconceiveable. Manu is in his prime now, Kobe is slowly reaching his prime.
    Secondly, Ginobili is a role player. I love his game, I think he's an excellent player and would love having him on my team but if you were to build a team around Kobe or Manu, who would you choose?

    If you say Manu, then great, that's your opinion, but ask 30 of the GM's in the NBA and they'll tell you different, no matter how "selfish", "distracting" and a "chemistry-wrecker" Kobe Bryant is. Even the most biased Kobe hater should be able to agree with that.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting spawn:</div><div class="quote_post">This thread is a bit farfethced, even for some of the Kobe haters on this board.
    First, Ginobili is older then Kobe, so him "being better then Kobe later on" is actually inconceiveable. Manu is in his prime now, Kobe is slowly reaching his prime.
    Secondly, Ginobili is a role player. I love his game, I think he's an excellent player and would love having him on my team but if you were to build a team around Kobe or Manu, who would you choose?

    If you say Manu, then great, that's your opinion, but ask 30 of the GM's in the NBA and they'll tell you different, no matter how "selfish", "distracting" and a "chemistry-wrecker" Kobe Bryant is. Even the most biased Kobe hater should be able to agree with that.</div>

    You dont even have to look at those just look at the stats kobe is real close to averaging a triple double when was the last tiem that happened??

    Hes averaging 26 ppg 7 rpg and 7 apg that is just amazing!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Phuzer:</div><div class="quote_post">No... He was more of a second star [​IMG]

    It isn't because Manu plays better than Kobe right now, that he'll keep those numbers up. I still consider Manu inconsistent. Kobe can have a very bad shooting night, but still gets his points from all the calls he's getting.His assists and rebounds are always consistent,where Manu can slip a bit in both categories.This is largely because he isn't the ball-handler and the main scoring option of the Spurs, where Kobe's both of the Lakers(yes, I consider him the true point guard) When Manu could be the lone star on a team and keep up his numbers I could consider him as good as Kobe, but right now... Not even a chance!</div>

    This also being said if Kobe is the primary offensive option on his team doesnt that mean he has more defensive pressure put on him?? Yes it does.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheNextJordan8:</div><div class="quote_post">You dont even have to look at those just look at the stats kobe is real close to averaging a triple double when was the last tiem that happened??

    Hes averaging 26 ppg 7 rpg and 7 apg that is just amazing!</div>

    There's nothing amazing about shooting under 40% from the floor. However that happens when you don't have the big fella inside to make life much easier for you.
     
  6. Mamba

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">There's nothing amazing about shooting under 40% from the floor. However that happens when you don't have the big fella inside to make life much easier for you.</div>
    There is also one more BIG problem to that...Kobe is playing the point. Chucky Atkins is not the pg the Lakers want, he has a nice touch but we need a true pg, Kobe is Bringing the ball up court, handling the ball with 6 seconds or less left on the clock many times, and he is exertting all his energy on D. I guaruntee if the Lakers get a true PG Kobe's % will go right back up to about 43% or 44%.
     
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    I doubt It, Kobe is struggling shooting because he is facing more double and triple teams, he can't slack off in between quarters like he used to. He has to use all his energy for 4th quarters unlike the past few seasons when L.A could go to Shaq when Kobe needed rest, or if he just wanted to play defense. That option is no longer there, thats the reason he is struggling. It's basically what guys like T-mac, Pierce, Iverson e.t.c go through every year. Only difference is Kobe is finally realising how they feel.

    Oh and Yes having Chucky running the point is never a wise decision, even back in 2000 when he was starting point guard for the Pistons he was out of his depth, mainly in the playoffs. Kenny Anderson burnt him every game in the conference semi-finals. A big reason why Billups was brought in. Now Chucky is much older and is obviously not as good.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">I doubt It, Kobe is struggling shooting because he is facing more double and triple teams, he can't slack off in between quarters like he used to. He has to use all his energy for 4th quarters unlike the past few seasons when L.A could go to Shaq when Kobe needed rest, or if he just wanted to play defense. That option is no longer there, thats the reason he is struggling. It's basically what guys like T-mac, Pierce, Iverson e.t.c go through every year. Only difference is Kobe is finally realising how they feel.

    Oh and Yes having Chucky running the point is never a wise decision, even back in 2000 when he was starting point guard for the Pistons he was out of his depth, mainly in the playoffs. Kenny Anderson burnt him every game in the conference semi-finals. A big reason why Billups was brought in. Now Chucky is much older and is obviously not as good.</div>

    Im not disagreeing that the major reason his FG% is down is becuase Shaq is now gone, becuase I completely agree with you, but I also think that there are other factors too...like having to force up shots with 6 seconds or less left on the clock, doing all the ball handling, it wears him down. But I do agree with you, the biggest reason is because he doesnt have the Big Aristotle down in the paint anymore.
     

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