<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "LakerzRule KOBE8":</div><div class="quote_post"> I know you are not talking about making a fool of somebody. Little Miss. I only got one earring in my left ear because Dirk has his left ear pierced. Obession, tell me where Dirk is good at besides being a punk! I can tell you where Kobe is good at. Look at what he did in the playoffs, he played with an injured shoulder and they still won the 1st round. Dirk went down with an injury and didnt return to the series. He should know its the playoffs. Suck it up. Kobe has done what no player has done. Its a shame to see so many hate on such a talented player.</div> can you please explain to me what you mean... you've said this several times but yet to tell everyone what he has done that no one has ever done... Dirk's injury was career threating... Kobe's wasnt, no comparison... sorry Kobe didnt beat the TWolves... the Lakers with Kobe AND Shaq did... your not helpin shapecity argue the point that kobe is better... your actually going in the opposite direction... give it up...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "LakerzRule KOBE8":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "deestillballin":</div><div class="quote_post">Quan you making yourself look like a fool! "Kobe is the best because he gots 3 rings". blah. At least I can back up FACTS about Dirk, when I say I think hes good. so untill you come up with GOOD reasons, dont come at me sayin Kobe is a basketball God because I will put your Kobe Bryant jocking self in your place, now do everybody a favor and hush!</div> I know you are not talking about making a fool of somebody. Little Miss. I only got one earring in my left ear because Dirk has his left ear pierced. Obession, tell me where Dirk is good at besides being a punk! I can tell you where Kobe is good at. Look at what he did in the playoffs, he played with an injured shoulder and they still won the 1st round. Dirk went down with an injury and didnt return to the series. He should know its the playoffs. Suck it up. Kobe has done what no player has done. Its a shame to see so many hate on such a talented player.</div> 1st off, dirk can't be stopped on offense. u just can't stop him. if you give him room, he'll drain 3's, if u're right in his face, then he'll drive right by u and get an easy layup. at 7 foot tall u don't get that very often. his defense sucks though, which is probably the only reason he's not a top 5 player. 2nd off, the reason why they won the 1st round is because of shaq, without shaq they woulda got swept. 3rd, what has kobe done that noone has done? 4th, we're not hating, we all respect his ability, we are just saying he's not the best player in the league. everyone here can agree that he's a top 5 player which isn't hating, we just are entitled to our own opinions, i'm not saying that you need a reality check because u don't agree with all my opinions, just respect our opinions, i'm sorry not everyone agrees with u at everything.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "purehoops":</div><div class="quote_post"> can you please explain to me what you mean... you've said this several times but yet to tell everyone what he has done that no one has ever done... Dirk's injury was career threating... Kobe's wasnt, no comparison... sorry Kobe didnt beat the TWolves... the Lakers with Kobe AND Shaq did... your not helpin shapecity argue the point that kobe is better... your actually going in the opposite direction... give it up...</div> 3 Rings in a Row under the age of 25. How was Dirk's injury career threratning, have to be assoicaiated with Dee. Tell me one player who had 3 rings under 25. Enough Said
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "LakerzRule KOBE8":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "purehoops":</div><div class="quote_post"> can you please explain to me what you mean... you've said this several times but yet to tell everyone what he has done that no one has ever done... Dirk's injury was career threating... Kobe's wasnt, no comparison... sorry Kobe didnt beat the TWolves... the Lakers with Kobe AND Shaq did... your not helpin shapecity argue the point that kobe is better... your actually going in the opposite direction... give it up...</div> 3 Rings in a Row under the age of 25. How was Dirk's injury career threratning, have to be assoicaiated with Dee. Tell me one player who had 3 rings under 25. Enough Said</div> yes with the assistance of shaq
Kobe hasnt done anything no one else hasnt done ecxept drain 12 threes in a game but its not like hes the best three shooter at his position . hes dfinetly not. shaq is what decideds wheteher the lakers win or lose. if hes there and he succeeds they win. kobe canat lead a team by himself like tmac and pierce and kidd can
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "LakerzRule KOBE8":</div><div class="quote_post"> Tell me one player who had 3 rings under 25. Enough Said</div> mark madsen?
know wha Ive had about enough of you.. LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE. WHAT PART OF THOSE 5 WORDS DONT YOU UNDERSTAND?? im done, im not replyin to you no more, answerin your ims no more, maybe if you get a taste of being ignored youll back off!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "sportsrock37":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "LakerzRule KOBE8":</div><div class="quote_post"> Tell me one player who had 3 rings under 25. Enough Said</div> mark madsen?</div> lol verry true
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "LakerzRule KOBE8":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "purehoops":</div><div class="quote_post"> can you please explain to me what you mean... you've said this several times but yet to tell everyone what he has done that no one has ever done... Dirk's injury was career threating... Kobe's wasnt, no comparison... sorry Kobe didnt beat the TWolves... the Lakers with Kobe AND Shaq did... your not helpin shapecity argue the point that kobe is better... your actually going in the opposite direction... give it up...</div> 3 Rings in a Row under the age of 25. How was Dirk's injury career threratning, have to be assoicaiated with Dee. Tell me one player who had 3 rings under 25. Enough Said</div> Okay... finally... but the fact still stands the rings are curtiousy of a guy named Shaq... Im sure if you are an actual basketball fan, youve heard of him... thus its no "enough said"... quit acting like you killed the agurement after you make a petty small point Dirk's injury could have been career threatin if he tried to play with it... have to be associated with Dee... what does that mean... that since I dont worship the crap in Kobe's toliet Im not right?... please man... its over... you have yet to make a VALID ARURGUEMENT...
jordan had 6 rings, and it doesn't matter what age, bill russel has 11 rings so whats ur point? id like to see you be 7 feet tall and fall twisting your knee then try playing at an nba level....
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "olskoolFunktitude":</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe is not the best player in the league period. you havent offered any legitament explanation that he is u just keep repeating yourself casue you dont know enough about basketball to have a real discussion with us. its as simple as that</div> what are you talking about? "Keep repeating myself?" What?! This is my first post in this thread. And here are reasons why Kobe is the best: -his 1st team all-defense (seperates him from T-mac) -his clutchness (seperates him from KG) -has to share with Shaq (who does KG share with--Hudson?!) -3 titles (KG hasn't even won a playoff series) -9 game 40 point scoring binge (could KG do that? no) -All-star game MVP -Kobe can take over games like no other (except maybe Shaq or Ivey) -Dunk contest winner -Rookie game scoring record -One of the youngest to ever enter NBA -#1 NBA jersey seller -How many game winners has KB8 made? A TON.. -He scored 42 in one half, breaking the team record for points in a half of 37, set by Elgin Baylor "I just wanted to make sure Kobe didn't dominate me."--MJ on Kobe :thumbsup:
- Kobe being on All 1st Team Defense is more than generous, Artest and Bowen should have made it over him - KG doesnt score 40 in a game your right, but Id rather take 30/15/10 than 40/5/2 any day of the week - Kobe shares the ball with Shaq, but with absolutly noone else, Shaq cant take EVERY SINGLE shot, thus Kobe gets more than plenty, he benefits from having Shaq on his team more than not having Shaq on his team - Kobe would not make the playoffs without Shaq, thus he wouldnt be able to win a playoff series, so you mid as well throw that out the window when you compare KG to Kobe - All Star game records mean shit, and if you wanna compare dunking ability, Vince Carter must be the best player in the L - KG more triple doubles, and double doubles than Kobe (regardless of size) - KG can take over a game, TD can take over and game, Iverson, Pierce, Shaq, McGrady, so dont gimme that he can take over games better... - #1 Jersey seller? What does that havta do with how good he is? That just means hes popular... K. Malone is prolly a horrible jersey seller and hes arugably the best PF in the history of the NBA - 3 titles via Shaq and only Shaq... anyone with the right of mind knows there is no way the Lakers would have won the title without Shaq - Until Shaq came back the Lakers would like 10th or 11th in the West (not exactly sure)... - One of the youngest to enter the NBA? He didnt even play when he came out... Amare has all the HSers beat in that catergorie... you owned no one... you think you did because you refuse to see the real facts...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "the MDE":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "olskoolFunktitude":</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe is not the best player in the league period. you havent offered any legitament explanation that he is u just keep repeating yourself casue you dont know enough about basketball to have a real discussion with us. its as simple as that</div> what are you talking about? "Keep repeating myself?" What?! This is my first post in this thread. And here are reasons why Kobe is the best: -his 1st team all-defense (seperates him from T-mac) -his clutchness (seperates him from KG) -has to share with Shaq (who does KG share with--Hudson?!) -3 titles (KG hasn't even won a playoff series) -9 game 40 point scoring binge (could KG do that? no) -All-star game MVP -Kobe can take over games like no other (except maybe Shaq or Ivey) -Dunk contest winner -Rookie game scoring record -One of the youngest to ever enter NBA -#1 NBA jersey seller -How many game winners has KB8 made? A TON.. -He scored 42 in one half, breaking the team record for points in a half of 37, set by Elgin Baylor "I just wanted to make sure Kobe didn't dominate me."--MJ on Kobe :thumbsup:</div> alot of them are iregular to being the best player e.g dunk contest winner-shouldnt be there number one jersy seller-shouldnt be an issue all star game mvp-doesnt come in to it,its an exibition game a reason why kobe is the best is defo not cause he "has to share with shaq
kobe is nothing close to being dominant though, ive made my points clear above that other players are better than him. All you did was compare him to KG, and the dunk competition is on talent, not being the best, Vince ripped up the dunk competition and hes not the best so that is no arguement. I don't see any season MVPs or any Finals MVPs so its already clear hes not the best if you want to critisize other players for not going far in the playoffs, Tim Duncan i must add has had both...If Kobe was so great they wouldn't have lost to the Spurs, but it was the other way around, Duncan killed the lakers. Duncan has all defensive team awards rookie of the year and has consistently since his rookie year put over 20ppg and 10rpg. Was 2 blocks away from a quadruple-doulbe in the last game of the finals. 2 rings 2-time mvp first pick overall 1998-1999: -rookie of the year -all nba team -all defensive team -21.7ppg, 11.4rpg, 2.4apg, 2.52bpg -1999 finals mvp 1999-2000: -all nba team -all nba defensive team -23.2ppg, 12.4rpg, 3.2apg, 2.23bpg -co-mvp of the all star game 2000-2001: -all defensive team -all nba team -22.2ppg, 12.2rpg, 3apg, 2.34bpg 2001-2002: -mvp -all nba team -all defensive team -25.5ppg, 12.7rpg, 3.7apg, 2.48bpg 2002-2003: -mvp -all nba team -all defensive team -finals mvp -23.3ppg, 12.9rpg, 4apg, 2.93bpg career Fg% is 51% career FT% is 71% daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn......