Simons is a nightmare

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  1. sheed30

    sheed30 Well-Known Member

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    Well then go cry a river if you’re so done with it. Guess that means we have to listen to your complaints every week now lol.

    complaining about Simons in the past and being a scapegoat are two different things.

    He has become the scapegoat here already and that’s also tiresome for many people on here that have to read people constantly complaining 24/7
     
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    you know basketball fans are disgruntled, when harping on rookies becomes a talking point.

    The Blazers went from playoff team to tank masters over these last 2 years. It's sometimes difficult for the fanbase to make that adjustment.

    My advice is to go read some blogs about the Pistons or something. Getting opposing team rebuilding input can do wonders. Sure the Detroit fans rag on the rookies a little bit, but they also keep their expectations low because there is always going to be a learning curve when drafting ultra-young players. Bad rookie/sophmore play is listed as comedic relief.

    It took Anfernee Simons 4 years to earn a starting rotation spot. But he was also drafted very young, needed time to develop. He's still on the learning curve, has yet to hit peak performance. But flashes of brilliance are certainly there.

    When Ant does have those unstoppable offensive games, you basically add jackpot sound effects.

    Yes there's tons of work that Simons could/should be doing better. There's no doubt Ant's 1st year as starting guard had flaws, was overwhelming at times. His defense and rebounding and ability to play through contact was overwhelmingly subpar.

    Simons is still growing, he's going to have ups & downs. He also doesn't freak out like Lillard when the GM benches him after trade deadline for picks.

    Anfernee is a great starting Guard for a Blazer team in rebuilding phase. He's a professional, he doesn't get involved in bad off court stupid crap.

    bash away on Shaedon, it don't matter, don't take that criticism seriously. Like I said, Blazer fans ARE NOT USED TO REBUILDING. Everyone in Portland saw a good Blazer team make the playoffs for almost an entire decade

    Sharpe has yet to even start year 2 on his projected learning curve. He will have roller coaster games. But try to keep in mind, it took Anfernee over 4 seasons to get moved into a starting spot.

    or... Cronin can just trade Anfernee for draft picks at the trade deadline, effectively hacking off the 23 & 5 scoring leg that helps keep the Blazers afloat in the standings.

    Tanks are weird, they're not for everyone. It becomes very difficult to actually root for your team to lose.
    >> Anfernee sucks, Shaedon sucks! ... good ??

    Blazer fans are not accustomed to turning negatives into positives. It's been a long time since Portland had a true rebuild. Probably the Roy, Aldridge, no Oden era was the last full reset button.

    This is Anfernee's time to shine. Shaedon is next on deck. It has to go through the simple course of it takes time.
     
  3. Rastapopoulos

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    Of course it's too soon to give up on Ant, given that we've just traded Dame.

    HOWEVER, he IS a ball-stopper, and a lead guard who needs the ball, rather than a catch-and-shoot guy, which would be the ideal complement to Scoot. I can't help but think that if we made a switch like Sacramento did, in acquiring a cheap low-usage shooter like Kevin Huerter, it would open up our offense, like it helped do for them. Who would that be, though?
     
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    He can be a great catch-and-shoot guy. Look at the last game in the first quarter when Sharpe fed him on the break and he hit the 3. If Scoot is running the offense with Ant I guarantee we will see more of that instead of him creating his own shot.....if Chauncey emphasizes it.

    Then there was this game.....


     
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    oh for chrissakes...what difference is there between people complaining about players and you complaining about people complaining?
     
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    Anferno (as Dame has said) capable of singlehandedly burning down this rebuild. Let's hope his barely good shooting and his pretty good assist to turnover ratio is an audition for some other team. He doesn't fit on this one.
     
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    If you guys can complain 24/7 then nothing wrong with me doing the same when I want.

    seems like it bothered you enough to reply to me lol.

    the real point is watching people complain 24/7 gets old real fast.
     
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  8. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    He’s my biggest fan. Most of the time I’m blissfully unaware of his toxic bullshit because I have had him blocked for years. I think he only visits this site to insult me. He only has like 300 posts and most of them are probably responses to me lol

    PapaG alt account?
     
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    Agreed, though this isn't something that should be forced prior to Shaedon being ready for that role. While his physical talents and smooth jumper are obvious pluses, I want him to earn the starting role with smart team play and bettering his D.

    STOMP
     
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    I hope Scoot takes note of Simon's form on his J as his needs some real work.

    STOMP
     
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    Whoa, this is the best thing I've ever seen you post and is remarkably balanced and nuanced. Do you troll on here a lot? It seems amazing that the same poster who writes way off the deep end stuff (notably about Dame) could write this incredibly well-written and insightful post. The explanation has to be that you were trolling in a lot of those comments and I took the bait. Regardless, this is an absolutely brilliant post!!! I regret I have but one like to give!:cheers:
     
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    I think the solution is to give the keys FULLY to Scoot. I love Ant off-ball and if nothing is developing using him as an outlet with say 8 seconds on the clock. I would prefer Sharpe get those touches, but I also like bringing Sharpe along slowly with a super green light off the bench. Scoot needs to focus on getting Ayton involved early with the P&R, and then finding Simons and other shooters who are open. I'm actually fine with keeping Simons for now and then Sharpe forcing the issue to become the starter.

    The real issue on the team right now is Grant, he looks like he doesn't give a fuck and just wants to jack up shots. That might change once the season actually starts. If not, we need to get rid of him and Brogdon at the deadline, preferably for picks or more young SF/PF's to add to the stable. I'd love to see Houston making a real surge towards being a playoff team, them wanting Brog and Grant and us getting one of Eason, Jabari, or Thompson + picks/salary. That's a fantasy I know, but Houston has an embarrassment of riches at the SF/PF. The Nets for Clowney and Whitehead + picks is another trading partner I like.
     
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  13. sheed30

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    Toxic bullshit is what you post here on a daily, everyone knows it and sees it.
     
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    Yeah, Ant's jump shot is Ray Allen. It's so beautiful and effective
     
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    No, there is not. And I think both should be allowed. That said, I notice that the most negative posters about a team (on any board anywhere), are also some of the most butthurt when someone calls them out on it. It's like they think that is the purpose of this board...to vent. Yet, they don't have the confidence, to weather the same vitriol.......aimed at their constant vitriol.

    There certainly is hypocrisy where this is concerned. If the board allows complaining without limits, that that should apply to complaining.....about complaining.
     
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    HUGE difference FAMS……HUGE!
     
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  17. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Ok let’s flip this around.

    What if someone was constantly called out for being a homer? They post something positive about the team and the same several posters respond by calling them a fucking homer. Telling them to shut up with the homer takes. Making it always about them and not their homer opinions.

    People being blind homers can be just as annoying as people who are negative. But most of the time nobody calls them out because typically people are more tolerant of sunshine pumping.

    It’s pretty simple. If you don’t agree with a post, you can either respond and debate or you can ignore. The people who constantly bitch about the person behind the post are toxic and usually don’t contribute much to the forum in actual conversation.
     
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    Right because many posters love complaining about other posters and then defend said habit. This is a sports forum about the Blazers so evaluation of play, both positive and negative is sorta the Raison d'etre for the forum.
     
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    See, there is the rub. That is how you want it. That is your opinion. To the bolded, where in the rules or guidelines is that stated? Are you able to see that the bolded is how you want it to be? Are you aware that many people come here for different things? What if someone comes here to talk about the positive things surrounding the team? Just because you use the implied derogatory term "sunshine pumping", does that make it any different that repeated negativity? I have no issue with someone telling me I am too positive. Do you have an issue with someone telling you you're too negative? It sure seems that way.

    Your quote of me is a classic example. I gave my view of how I thought that both negativity about the team, and negativity about someone being too negative fall under the same guidelines/rules. You responded with

    "The people who constantly bitch about the person behind the post are toxic and usually don’t contribute much to the forum in actual conversation."

    This is classic. It's YOUR opinion. But is does not make it so, nor are those folks outside the rules/guidelines. I am coming from a place of interpreting what this forum seems to allow, and you are coming from a place of how you want it to be.
     
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    Simons shooting from 3 works. He’s looking more aggressive about his game, too — looking to pass on his drives as the path is shutting down. He and Scoot did not look like they were “taking turns” — they’re BOTH aggressive which is a nice change. Ant is stepping forward as (IMHO) he knows that when Shaedon takes his 2nd and 3rd year leaps, then SG is his. It’s all about how much effort Ant puts into improving on D.

    Murray kept playing. He did not draw attention to himself, but he was active and played D … not lost at all. Jabari is good at going after the ball and being obviously active. He looks like a 6th or 7th man for a longgg time. But I’ll say it now: Murray will quietly become a quality, starting forward. “Reasonable” ceiling? Buck Williams. Both smart dudes with hard hats and a bit sneaky with athleticism. Yes, I’m a fan of this kind of player. Murray as a PF and switchable at both forward spots, but he’ll need to get stronger.

    Scoot is the starting PG. He’s the kind of PG who keeps moving and gets rebounds. I hope Brogdon sticks around for a few cups of coffee. He operates like Andre Miller — at his own pace and confident in what he does. Make sure Brogdon stays healthy in his try-outs with good, opposing teams.
     

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