Normally I would do that, but for this year, I'm not sure. #20 in the next 2 year's Drafts? Yes. Grant gets us #5 AND that size of TPE? Where do I sign up? There is so much noise in ORL about getting Ant. I think fans there may be quite disappointed if they don't get their home town kid. Agreed, Washington would almost certainly want more than Walker/Anthony back. This type of move would seem likely given ownership's history and us being in the Lux Tax.
I know teams can agree to exchange draft picks + players in the draft with the trade to be finalized after July 1 when teams will have cap-space (I'm not sure if it happens much; I'm assuming it has but it's probably uncommon) with that in mind + the fact that both Orlando and OKC will have cap-space in July: Portland trades Ant + #34 to Orlando Orlando trades WCJ + #18 to OKC; 2025 or 2026 lottery protected 1st to Portland OKC trades #12 to Portland * Orlando gets their back court help, but I'd wonder if WCJ and two first's would be way too steep a price (And they might not have space depending on Fultz) * OKC gets a 2nd big who would fit very well with their roster and could play with Holmgren. They may need to pay more than moving down from #12 to #18 and the more they pay might help grease the wheels for Orlando. (the fault line might be that OKC has big plans for their cap-space) * Blazers add the 12th pick; a future 1st; and a 26M TPE it may not move the needle enough for either Orlando or OKC; I'm not sure. But it does give the Blazers some options. With Detroit apparently willing to trade #5, maybe Grant + #14 for #5 and another giant TPE? Would having 7+12 + Brogdon convince Houston to give up #3? What could the Blazers do with #3+#5? there could be more moving parts in the original 3 team trade. OKC is apparently shopping Giddey and they have oodles of picks
the trick with orlando is getting them to send out picks that are neither 2024, nor that denver 2025 "first."
Since Larry Coon has not updated his CBA FAQ for the new CBA (and he may not be planning too), I wanted to explore/talk a bit about the ramifications of the minimum team salary provision. (And since I don't feel like dooing a Google deep dive) as I understand it, the CBA changed so that cap-space can not be carried into the regular season anymore. If a team doesn't meet the team salary minimum (90% of the cap which will be 127M). For example if a team has 30M in cap-space with 111M in total guarantees, and they don't use any of it by opening night, they lose the space and end up credited with 141M in guarantees. I might be mistaken, but that means that the most cap-space any team can carry into the regular season is 10% of the cap. The trick for teams that want to carry some space is is to just hit the minimum team salary mark without going over by much. The ability to perform precise payroll contortions could be valuable the reason I'm wondering about this is for TPE's. I'm not sure if using a TPE changes that Payroll charge. The gap this season between the 141M cap and the 172M tax line is 31M; and between the cap and 1st apron is 37-38M. So for example, it the trade fantasies I had above, if the Blazers ended up with a couple of TPE's of 20M+, and they carried them into the season, they might be a lot more valuable because of the limitations on cap-space
no surprise he talks about Ant to Orlando it's Ant for Antony Black + #18 + 2025 Denver 1st + 18.3M TPE I might be being greedy, but I'd like the Blazers to get the more favorable of the Denver/Orlando 1st round picks and pretty much I'd like to see how high Portland might move up by combining 14+18 or 7+18
Seems like Simons for Black+ is the universally-accepted trade idea around the NBA this summer. Will annoy the heck out of me when it doesn't happen.
Good. Black does not excite me at all. I know he is 6'6" but he has a smaller wing span than both Ant and Scoot
With #3 and #5, the Blazers could trade Ayton and #3 to Atlanta using the gained TPE and obtain the #1. with #1, pick Risarcher with #5, pick Clingan
yeah that denver pick is doo doo and ya'll know how I feel about 2024 picks. I'd be fine with leaving black out of the deal and getting an unprotected future orlando pick and the denver pick vs black and another 2024 asset (and I like anthony black).
Duncd on podcast had an interesting idea about trading Towns for Grant. They are just in the 2nd apron so that would get Minnesota out of it. They actually used it as an example of why Towns won't be traded as they thought this doesn't make sense for Minnesota. Also would need a 3rd team to give PDX salary relief and take on Towns. Interesting idea though, I think that Minnesota roster would be way better balanced, main problem is Grant being older than Towns IMO.
How about something like this? We end up with 5th, 7th and 14th. We can either package and move up or just take BPA at all three spots.
Honestly I'd give them 14 if we were getting 5. I'm still hopeful that we can swap Simons with Orlando. If we really wanted to move up into the late lottery, we could probably pair the 18th and 34th pick. But we'd end up with Duren, 5, and 7. That's a nice group of young guys coming in.
Unless come tax time, the Wolves think that 20 million per year less for Grant has value. KAT $49,350,000 $53,298,000 $57,246,000 $61,194,000 Grant $29,793,104 $32,000,001 $34,206,898 $36,413,790
good point as of right now, Minny is scheduled to be 20M over the tax line; 13M over the 1st apron, and 3M over the 2nd apron. And that's only for 10 players. 26M/year for Jaden McDaniels? KAT has 4 years left on his deal at 55M/year. He's a good player but that's a lot of money for a big who has averaged less than 55 games/year over the last 6 seasons
I tried to think of a trade of Brogdon and Grant with Towns going to a third team; would have to wait until Towns' new salary kicks in, but what team would want to give up assets for Towns and his ballooning salary?
