Trades possibilities....and what teams are open for business

I'm not sure if Grant + 14 outgoing and 5 incoming gets Portland under the cap. If it does, it would only be by 1-2M. But being 30-32M below the tax line with a 29.8M TPE would be tempting....assuming TPE's can be that large

 

Im not optimistic that Joe can engineer decent enough value for any of our vets. But he can cut salary easily enough. If he trades all but I core players, vets ad get even younger it buys Joe more time as a gm that is building from scratch basically.

 

I'd throw a hunk of 2nds at them for 21

 

2nd round picks are more valuable than they used to be because you can use them for G-League or 2-way contracts instead of 1st round guaranteed $$$.

That said, if there was someone they really wanted and they could trade 34/40 for #21 and then combine 21/14 to move up into the Top-10 for someone they identified that they really wanted, I'd be good with that. But that is a lot of moving parts and you have to find another team willing to move down.

 

There are different types of defense. It's questionable if Sarr can be a true anchor. Clingan will be that and he doesn't have the rebounding deficiencies.

 

Perception. We need to move the vets and cut salary, trading them for lottery picks on rookie deals makes more sense than getting mid to late 1sts in other drafts.

 

Thybulle and 14

to Memphis at 9?

utah at 10?

spurs for the 8th? Says the homer

 

Grant to Philly

2024 #16 from Philly and a 2027 1st (they have 3 team’s first pick)

then package 14 & 16 to move into top 10 this year = 7th our own + 8th (Thybulle +14 & 16 to Spurs)

Then trade 7 & 8 to Washington for #2 and take Sarr, Risacher or Clinghan

net:

Trading Grant and Thybulle clears cap space and gets us #2 this year and a 2027 1st from Philly

 

Memphis thinks they are closer to solid playoff status as well and might prefer a vet to a youngster who might take a couple of years. Similar to OKC, it sounds like there are a couple of players they like, but if they are gone, they might consider moving down or out for a piece that can contribute now.

 

So if Memphis is feeling “win now” then let’s them trade Grant + 14 + 40 for youth at the wing, Ziaire Williams + 9th pick and filler.

 

Link? What do Orlando fans think of Anthony Black? Ideally they love him but realize he's stuck behind Suggs and Wagner. But it's a bit annoying that Fultz is a UFA because they could be planning to play Black his minutes.

 

They would probably prefer to part with Cole Anthony, but realize he doesn't have much value. The messed up last year when they took Jett Howard when they already had Anthony, Fultz, Harris, Suggs, Houston and were also selecting Black. WAY too many guards and most of them don't shoot well or don't shoot enough to be a threat.

 

SEND ANFERNEE HOME!

 

I see the value of Clingan and even that of Edey. The unicorn TALLS — Wemby, Holmgren, Porzingis — won’t body up Clingan in the paint. And even Jokic or Embiid won’t pancake him soon enough. But Sarr has shown the ability to play outside, from the weak side and the want to in being physical.

Here’s a take I haven’t seen from others on another possible dude … probably for good reason.

Looking back to Bam Adebayo coming in, he was a physical dude and ready to go. Not a unicorn. He’s become a tough defender, good scorer … one of those dudes who isn’t best on his team, but he makes all the difference for competing. Of the physical center type, he’s one I really like.

Which draftee doesn’t show as being good at D right now but who is a lighter version of Bam coming in? Described as a golden retriever on D with the effort and motor and all over the place … may actually be able to shoot from deep … who in a couple years goes from being a big “puppy” to a serious dog … a dude who isn’t best-on-team but is an anchor at PF/C?

Salaun. People apologetically (almost) use Giannis just for a physical comparison, but with Salaun’s motor, I can see a younger Bam.

 

Cronin needs to ask him where he prefers to be traded before he gets back minimal return

 

It’s a common sentiment with pundits that this is going to be a crazy offseason with lots of teams wheeling and dealing.

What’s causing them to say this?

I’ve heard the idea through several channels but don’t understand what makes this offseason any different from the next.

 

It isn't any different from other seasons - EVERY offseason we hear that it's going to be a crazy offseason.

 

I think the new CBA has expectations of wheeling and dealing bandied about.

 

I think the expectation might be due to a significant change in the non-taxpayer MLE and the room-MLE; but I might be misreading things:



https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/11/mid-level-bi-annual-projections-for-2024-25.html

if I'm reading that right, the two different MLE's non-taxpayer and Room (but not the taxpayer MLE) will be just like cap-space or a TPE in terms of an unbalanced trade

this off-season the standard MLE is 12.8M and the Room-MLE is 8M.

of course, Portland's roster cap has been so fucking mismanaged they won't be able to take advantage of this new rule without shedding some major salary. They are also likely to just waste their 8.7M TPE (Dame - expires 9/27) like they wasted their 8.3M TPE (Payton - expired in Feb)

 

I would be interested in knowing who is available for 12.8. And if that player is likely to consider going to a team that is rebuilding. IMO only a young player would do that and it is very seldom that good young players are UFAs.