Warriors 2007 NBA Draft Thread

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  1. REREM

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    <div class="quote_poster">Air Monta Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">His offensive game is about the same as Biedrins, only Splitter has a decent jumper and can make free throws. I don't think we need scoring as much as we do defense, so Splitter is the safe pick.</div>

    I'm a bit baffled.....NOWHERE do Splitter's numbers even match Kosta Perovics. He's alleged to be a good rebounder-yet was below 6 boards. He's touted as a skilled big-yet did not get his avg above 10 pt till late this season after 4 years playing in Europe. You can't convince me the Euro league is tougher or that 10 pt makes a guy a star over there. I'd wonder if he has the handles to play PF or is a guy who gets cast as yet another seldom seen backup C.

    Want D? Take Hill.....the guy probably had a dozen games with 5+ blocks. He scored 19 per in the Big East. Rudy Gay didn't,Charlie V didn't,Chris Taft didn't.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">REREM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm a bit baffled.....NOWHERE do Splitter's numbers even match Kosta Perovics. He's alleged to be a good rebounder-yet was below 6 boards. He's touted as a skilled big-yet did not get his avg above 10 pt till late this season after 4 years playing in Europe. You can't convince me the Euro league is tougher or that 10 pt makes a guy a star over there. I'd wonder if he has the handles to play PF or is a guy who gets cast as yet another seldom seen backup C.

    Want D? Take Hill.....the guy probably had a dozen games with 5+ blocks. He scored 19 per in the Big East. Rudy Gay didn't,Charlie V didn't,Chris Taft didn't.</div>

    Don't get me wrong, I want Hill. He will fit well, but he will be there at 36. REM, go to youtube and look up Tiago Splitter, you'll see what I've been talking about.
     
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    With Ford now saying that Thaddeus Young will fall to the Warriors, I'm really starting to think about him again. He really fits the mold of Warrior track stars in basketball uniforms. And, if the Warriors drafted him, they could easily stand to lose Pietrus or Barnes, if not both.

    The other guy I'm thinking a lot about right now is Julian Wright, since his stock seems to be low. He's definitely not going to drop to #18, but if the Warriors were to trade up four or five spots, he could be available. I'd want him for the same reason I'd want Young. He's an athletic forward who fits into the Warriors' run and gun style.

    Really, there are about 14 guys from Oden on down that I'd love if the Warriors got. And, there are another four or five that are projected to go ahead of the Warriors' pick. So, I'm really just ready to sit back and take the guy that falls to the Warriors.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">REREM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">...I recall Jax,Harrington,Ellis,Biedrins making mistakes. It was hardly just MP and Barnes....and at times,Pietrus' intensity and Barnes versatility were a big plus. It will tend to come down to the $$$$. Clearly these were 2 guys Nellie had some faith in late---when half the team was getting a DNP. With few teams able to pay over MLE-that's the max price tag. Nocioni will likely get a bit over the MLE,probably from the Bulls. That's probably not an option. We also probably would want to keep Powell and Azu...and Lose Jazzy Cabbages.
    I'd doubt bids for Powell-Azu top $2 mill. Pietrus? We'd match any bid up to $4.5 mill. Above that is a maybe. For Barnes,we'd hope to get him at $4 mill and likely would go a bit higher-perhaps full MLE.

    The odds we find anyone equal to Barnes-Azu-Powell on the low $ scrap pile are slim. Barnes outperformed most of last year's lotto picks.

    Jazzy probably does not get an offer elsewhere for $4 mill....but might buy out at $2 mill or less.

    Long shot....Zarko turns up healthy and re-signs cheap ... perhaps a team option?

    If we retain Pietrus....it does not mean he's here past trade deadline. The W's REALLY need to prove they can coach/develop players who have a few obvious flaws. What's wrong with Pietrus,or Ellis is no dark secret. Somewhere there's an assistant coach with the smarts to help these guys. There's probably a coach able to get POB to where he's getting minutes. Wasting prospects is a luxury we can't afford.</div>

    I agree with you. I don't think Pietrus and Barnes were that horrible. If the Warriors can resign either or both of them at a reasonable contract then I won't be too upset about that. The main point is that they have to be reasonable and cheap contracts.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">wtwalker77 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">With Ford now saying that Thaddeus Young will fall to the Warriors, I'm really starting to think about him again. He really fits the mold of Warrior track stars in basketball uniforms. And, if the Warriors drafted him, they could easily stand to lose Pietrus or Barnes, if not both.

    The other guy I'm thinking a lot about right now is Julian Wright, since his stock seems to be low. He's definitely not going to drop to #18, but if the Warriors were to trade up four or five spots, he could be available. I'd want him for the same reason I'd want Young. He's an athletic forward who fits into the Warriors' run and gun style.

    Really, there are about 14 guys from Oden on down that I'd love if the Warriors got. And, there are another four or five that are projected to go ahead of the Warriors' pick. So, I'm really just ready to sit back and take the guy that falls to the Warriors.</div>

    With this draft I'm happy with about 10 or so players that are avaliable at 18. Either way, we will get a good player at the 18. Players rise and fall, and most of the players falling could easily benefit to us. Chances are that one of McRoberts, Young, Stuckey, or Smith will be our pick at 18. I don't want Smith all that much, but he would be a decent pick.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">jason voorhees Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">And the winner is...

    Nick Fazekas?

    http://draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2128</div>

    I'm pretty crazy about Durant. His skillset and upside are truly awesome. If centers weren't in such high demand because of how few there are at the nba level, Durant would be #1, I think.

    As for Fazekas... My god, was there anyone in that conference he played for that challenged him? Unless, we're talking a project center with some athleticism and strength that we drafted last year, no way I'd see Fazekas in the same light in the nba weighing so little and being so tall as the second biggest man on the floor. If he was athletic as Jonathan Bender or Yi, I could see him making more of an impact. But tall, slow, lightweight makes me think he's going to get dominated like a ragdoll going against a hungry pack of dogs. What a weak draft for PF's this is... Somebody also explain to me why a lot of potential second rounders are going first? They must be feeling the same thing about how big numbers in a weak conference are overrated. It's like when Murphy got double doubles, did he really help us on defense that much when he just camped for rebounding positioning?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">custodianrules2 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">As for Fazekas... My god, was there anyone in that conference he played for that challenged him? Unless, we're talking a project center with some athleticism and strength that we drafted last year, no way I'd see Fazekas in the same light in the nba weighing so little and being so tall as the second biggest man on the floor. If he was athletic as Jonathan Bender or Yi, I could see him making more of an impact. But tall, slow, lightweight makes me think he's going to get dominated like a ragdoll going against a hungry pack of dogs. What a weak draft for PF's this is... Somebody also explain to me why a lot of potential second rounders are going first? They must be feeling the same thing about how big numbers in a weak conference are overrated. It's like when Murphy got double doubles, did he really help us on defense that much when he just camped for rebounding positioning?</div>

    I like draftexpress coming up with some new numbers to crunch, but it seems they're leaving some key factors out.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Air Monta Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Don't get me wrong, I want Hill. He will fit well, but he will be there at 36. REM, go to youtube and look up Tiago Splitter, you'll see what I've been talking about.</div>

    I'm totally psyched on Hill. He seems like a perfect fit.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">jason voorhees Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I like draftexpress coming up with some new numbers to crunch, but it seems they're leaving some key factors out.</div>

    Yeah, I know what their intentions were. It was just to show stuff by the numbers regardless of conference competition and their roles on the team. It's interesting, I'll say that. And the numbers look fantastic. Definitely 20/10 looks good in any stat sheet.

    I was also thinking, we still want to stick to run n' gun type of guys for a while until we can land a surefire halfcourt big man who can also sprint the floor to setup in the paint earlier. Every team in the nba wants that huge anchor in the paint that can give them 20/10 + shotblock intimidation to keep the guards from scoring inside easily. Guys like Dirk and Garnett are so hard to find and they need terrific centers to hide the fact those guys play more like perimeter players than true big men.

    A monster in the paint is also another way to draw double teams to set up open shots on the perimeter and get the highest % field goals on the floor and draw plenty of contact to get a chance at and1 plays. So with some of these "decent" athletes relative to the collegiate level, I just worry about them being fast enough and strong enough to play bigger than they really are at the nba level.

    Guys with skills who are 6'10 or longer are hard to find and for their sizes, they are probably faster than most average people who don't play basketball, but some other sport. But some of these tall guys are just that... they are tall, they don't got hops and they don't got strength. Guys who are taller than everyone else can just stay in a spot and tip the ball to themselves and bam... rebound or easy bucket! I really want the guys who can jump and are pretty long and they can pull stuff down in traffic and from out of position for a putback dunk. I really don't want another below the rim kind of guy who plays like Murphy or Dunleavy. But for what Fazekas is worth in all-around talent and in the second round, I'm sure he's of big value for some team. Many complain guys in the nba forgot how to shoot so I think he could be a nice commodity for some team if they are strong enough and big enough defensively to hide his liabilities as a defensemen.

    If he's got a niche for shooting from wide open and he's really consistent at doing that, there's always a place for those guys since lumbering power forwards have to leave the paint to do something about it. I noticed a lot of today's nba power forwards become centers, simply because the biggest piece on a team has to be in control of the paint defensively and in point blank or short ranges. If there's no Shaq or Yao or Duncan, then I think there's relative balance to how teams play each other, especially by using transition points, tougher D on the passing lanes, and emphasis on high % perimeter shooting using screens, cuts, and midrange jumpers.

    Guys who have a terrific and balanced backcourt can go Sheed and Wallace at PF/C or Duncan at C and Horry at PF. Of course, Duncan is a superstar, but Ginobilli and Parker sometimes just tear it up offensively and they seem like the franchise players. I hope we can get to the point where our backcourt is going to be able to create scoring and plays, and that our big men will be able to neutralize other big men and the smaller players who like to go inside. I'm really happy about Sjax because like Josh Howard, Tayshaun Prince, or Bruce Bowen, he can guard multiple positions. It really pains me to say that I wish we had a true prototype shooting guard instead of Jrich and a true top 10 center (which I'm hoping Beans or POB will become) and a all-star power forward that can play some center and doesn't suck defensively playing either spot.
     
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    Ron Lewis Warriors Jun 22nd Upcoming
    Jarrius Jackson Warriors Jun 11th Completed
    Dan Nwaelele Warriors Jun 11th Completed
    Morris Almond Warriors Jun 11th Completed
    D.J. Strawberry Warriors Jun 11th Completed
    Mohamed Abukar Warriors Jun 11th Completed
    J.R. Reynolds Warriors Jun 13th Completed
    Brandon Heath Warriors Jun 13th Completed
    Aaron Brooks Warriors Jun 13th Completed
    Lee Humphrey Warriors Jun 13th Completed
    Alando Tucker Warriors Jun 14th Completed
    Adam Haluska Warriors Jun 14th Completed
    Reyshawn Terry Warriors Jun 14th Completed
    Caleb Green Warriors Jun 14th Completed
    Craig Bradshaw Warriors Jun 15th Completed
    Mike Jones Warriors Jun 15th Completed
    Anthony Tolliver Warriors Jun 15th Completed
    David Teague Warriors Jun 15th Completed
    Jason Smith Warriors Jun 17th Completed
    DeVon Hardin Warriors Jun 17th Completed
    Gabe Pruitt Warriors Jun 17th Completed
    Ayinde Ubaka Warriors Jun 17th Completed
    Yi Jianlian Warriors Jun 18th Completed
    Kyle Visser Warriors Jun 19th Completed
    Alan Wiggins Jr Warriors Jun 19th Completed
    Justin Doellman Warriors Jun 19th Completed
    Brent Petway Warriors Jun 19th Completed
    Demetris Nichols Warriors Jun 20th Completed
    Nick Fazekas Warriors Jun 20th Completed
    Nick Young Warriors Jun 20th Completed
    Kyrylo Fesenko Warriors Jun 20th Completed
    Dominic McGuire Warriors Jun 20th Completed
    Major Wingate Warriors Jun 21st Completed
    Josh McRoberts Warriors Jun 21st Completed
    Glen Davis Warriors Jun 21st Completed

    Ron Lewis is the only workout we have left, and that is today. Some interesting names we worked out;
    McRoberts, Glen Davis, Nick Fakezas, Kyrylo Fesekno, Yi Jianlian, Jason Smith, Dominic McGuire.

    It looks like in the first round, we are going big, and in the second, we are going for a replacement to Barnes, and another back up SG possibly.
     
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    Wow the Dub's bringing in not one, but two San Diego Aztecs in for a look. We really do want to win a Championship. Wow i would love to see Heath or Abukar in a Warrios uni. Although i dont think Abukar will stick.... just doesnt play hungry enough for his size, but heath can be a Monta Ellis version 2.... not as explosive to the rim, but has run the point, and has big range and has the knack to knock down the clutch free throws or clutch shots.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Air Monta Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Ron Lewis Warriors Jun 22nd Upcoming
    Jarrius Jackson Warriors Jun 11th Completed
    Dan Nwaelele Warriors Jun 11th Completed
    Morris Almond Warriors Jun 11th Completed
    D.J. Strawberry Warriors Jun 11th Completed
    Mohamed Abukar Warriors Jun 11th Completed
    J.R. Reynolds Warriors Jun 13th Completed
    Brandon Heath Warriors Jun 13th Completed
    Aaron Brooks Warriors Jun 13th Completed
    Lee Humphrey Warriors Jun 13th Completed
    Alando Tucker Warriors Jun 14th Completed
    Adam Haluska Warriors Jun 14th Completed
    Reyshawn Terry Warriors Jun 14th Completed
    Caleb Green Warriors Jun 14th Completed
    Craig Bradshaw Warriors Jun 15th Completed
    Mike Jones Warriors Jun 15th Completed
    Anthony Tolliver Warriors Jun 15th Completed
    David Teague Warriors Jun 15th Completed
    Jason Smith Warriors Jun 17th Completed
    DeVon Hardin Warriors Jun 17th Completed
    Gabe Pruitt Warriors Jun 17th Completed
    Ayinde Ubaka Warriors Jun 17th Completed
    Yi Jianlian Warriors Jun 18th Completed
    Kyle Visser Warriors Jun 19th Completed
    Alan Wiggins Jr Warriors Jun 19th Completed
    Justin Doellman Warriors Jun 19th Completed
    Brent Petway Warriors Jun 19th Completed
    Demetris Nichols Warriors Jun 20th Completed
    Nick Fazekas Warriors Jun 20th Completed
    Nick Young Warriors Jun 20th Completed
    Kyrylo Fesenko Warriors Jun 20th Completed
    Dominic McGuire Warriors Jun 20th Completed
    Major Wingate Warriors Jun 21st Completed
    Josh McRoberts Warriors Jun 21st Completed
    Glen Davis Warriors Jun 21st Completed

    Ron Lewis is the only workout we have left, and that is today. Some interesting names we worked out;
    McRoberts, Glen Davis, Nick Fakezas, Kyrylo Fesekno, Yi Jianlian, Jason Smith, Dominic McGuire.

    It looks like in the first round, we are going big, and in the second, we are going for a replacement to Barnes, and another back up SG possibly.</div>

    According to an article the Warriors also took a look at Petteri Koponen as well. http://draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2121

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting draftexpress.com:</div><div class="quote_post"> Koponen wows in workout again

    Jonathan Givony

    Continuing a distinct trend that has followed him to every workout he’s attended so far, Petteri Koponen had himself another outstanding showing in front of multiple NBA teams, this time at a workout organized by his agent Marc Cornstein in New York City.

    Eight Pinnacle Management clients worked out for at least ten NBA teams in separate workouts this past weekend on Saturday and Sunday. Teams that were in New York on Saturday/Sunday included Denver, Memphis, Boston (Danny Ainge), Houston, Utah, Portland (Kevin Pritchard), Toronto, Golden State, Seattle, Charlotte, Phoenix, Dallas, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Miami, the LA Lakers, and the New York Knicks.

    According to an NBA executive that was present, the workout was well run and featured a good mix of shooting drills, and competitive one on one or two on two matchups. The players that were in attendance for the first session were Stanko Barac, Vladimir Golobuvic, Marko Lekic, and Milovan Rakovic—a group of big “bangers” who did a good job beating up on each other and neutralizing each other for the most part—even if Milovan Rakovic did well to separate himself from the pack.

    The second session—featuring Petteri Koponen, Casey Hughes (Yale), Zoran Erceg and Artem Zabelin—was reportedly more informative. Erceg did a terrific job shooting the ball, although his flaws (rebounding, shot-creating ability, athleticism) were evident. Zabelin looks to be “oozing with potential,” although he still has a “very long way to go” as his body looks years away from filling out.

    According to two separate NBA people who were in the building, it was Koponen that stole the show once again, showing good ball-handling skills, an ability to change directions quickly on the fly, excellent leadership skills, great poise, a high intelligence level, terrific intangibles, and a real winning attitude that made him standout in everything he did. The same “plays like an American guard” compliment that we heard from a different scout who saw him in Orlando conducting another multi-team workout was again repeated here—meaning he doesn’t suffer from the same athletic short-comings that other international guards do. His shooting mechanics were critiqued, but apparently his jumper went in at a good rate, particularly on pick and pop plays.

    Koponen has a difficult decision ahead of him as the deadline approaches on Monday. Does he settle for being drafted in the late first or early second round of this year’s draft, or does he instead decide to go back to Europe, join a good team in a high-level league where he can get plenty of playing time, and attempt to boost his stock into next year’s lottery? That’s a tough call indeed.
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    After watching some of the player profiles on NBATV thanks to Comcast, I got some interesting view points about some of these guys. I liked the clips I saw of Rudy Fernandez. His release is so quick and his shot is so good. I think his athleticism and winning past could really make him an appealing option at 18. However he has a contract buy-out issue which may not be wanted by the Warriors.

    I was also very impressed with Rodney Stuckey. He is athletic and a good scorer. He definitley looked like he could fit in with this team. There were highlites of him getting deflections to get easy fast break hoops, blocking shots, making jumpers, and attacking the rim. The scout said he was pretty good defensively as well. I see that the Warriors haven't worked him out though...

    I wasn't very impressed with Yi. Though it wasn't really the greatest view of his game. But from what the scout was saying I am not so sure about him. His mental toughness was questioned. He decided not to go to the draft camp to get his physical attributes measured. And really he gave me thoughts of Tskitishvili. If he fell to 18, I wouldn't mind giving him a shot. I don't support trading up to get him though.

    Tiago Splitter had a fair review. He has the contract buy-out issue though. Also they only showed two highlites of him, and both of them were just dunks. Right now I am not totally sold on him either.

    Josh McRoberts had a decent review as well. The scout and NCAA coach had some doubts about him. But one mentioned that he could become like a David Lee player, which really isn't that bad I don't think. The concern was based on what position is he going to play and how his team would develop him. Basically they seemed to agree that it could take a little while to get him where you want him to be, and then his contract would be just about expired.
     
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    Warriors may try to trade with Milwaukee's #6 in order to get Yi. Sorry if already posted, but I haven't been keeping up on the draft. I think Fegan is Richardson's agent, too.

    "06/18/2007: Could Bucks and Warriors be doing business?
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    BY GERY WOELFEL

    While Milwaukee Bucks general manager Larry Harris has acknowledged several teams have contacted him about the availability of the team’s top pick in the upcoming NBA draft, he has refused to disclose those teams.

    Yet, you can reasonably assume one of them is the Golden State Warriors. The Warriors reportedly have more than a passing interest in moving up in the draft with the object of their affection apparently being Chinese power forward Yi Jianlian.

    According to several NBA officials I’ve spoken to in the last week, Yi and his posse — i.e. agent Dan Fegan and the Chinese government — would love nothing more than to see Yi wind up a major market, preferably one with a significant Chinese population. The scuttlebutt is the Yi group has targeted four teams: Atlanta, Boston, Golden State and Chicago.

    That is probably why Fegan and Yi haven’t exactly been receptive to the idea of Yi playing, for instance, in Memphis, which has the fourth overall pick, or Milwaukee, which has the sixth overall selection.

    Bucks officials have said for a couple of weeks now they intend to fly to Los Angeles to work out Yi. Yet, as of Monday, no definite date had been set. On the flip side, Yi was reportedly going to work out for Golden State on Monday — even though the Warriors currently have the 18th overall pick in the June 28th draft.

    One of the rumors making the rounds is the Warriors would be willing to give the Bucks a couple of players and their top pick. One of the players would allegedly be shooting guard/small forward Jason Richardson.

    Richardson, who is 26 and one of the most athletically-gifted players in the NBA, has averaged 18.3 points during his six-year NBA career. Last season, he dipped to 16 points per game during the regular season before stepping it up in the playoffs by averaging 19.1 points."

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    I was reading what draftexpress.com had to say about Yi Jianlian. The problem with moving up and drafting him is he's got some significant risks.

    1. May not play for your team if you draft him. Not a problem for the Warriors as Golden State is one of his preferred teams.
    2. He held his own workouts and refused team workouts. He also refused to take a physical.
    3. His age is in question. According to his birth records, he was born in 1987 which makes him 19. Even his teammates question his age at 19 and think he's 22. Looking at him, he looks older than 19.
    4. Rebounding is an area Yi needs drastic improvement on both ends of the floor. This is a huge red flag.
    5. After he gets hit, then he has a problem with his shot. This is the second biggest red flag.

    If we're going to have to trade JRich for Yi, it may be too much to give up for this kind of risk. We need Yi to step in and contribute some right away. If he isn't able to be an effective rebounder and shooter, than we will have traded for naught.

    We're going to draft for our biggest need a PF, if we trade JRich, but aside from Kevin Durant (out of reach) there isn't a player who fits that criteria by moving up. Possibly Jeff Green.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">jason voorhees Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I was reading what draftexpress.com had to say about Yi Jianlian. The problem with moving up and drafting him is he's got some significant risks.

    1. May not play for your team if you draft him. Not a problem for the Warriors as Golden State is one of his preferred teams.
    2. He held his own workouts and refused team workouts. He also refused to take a physical.
    3. His age is in question. According to his birth records, he was born in 1987 which makes him 19. Even his teammates question his age at 19 and think he's 22. Looking at him, he looks older than 19.
    4. Rebounding is an area Yi needs drastic improvement on both ends of the floor. This is a huge red flag.
    5. After he gets hit, then he has a problem with his shot. This is the second biggest red flag.

    If we're going to have to trade JRich for Yi, it may be too much to give up for this kind of risk. We need Yi to step in and contribute some right away. If he isn't able to be an effective rebounder and shooter, than we will have traded for naught.

    We're going to draft for our biggest need a PF, if we trade JRich, but aside from Kevin Durant (out of reach) there isn't a player who fits that criteria by moving up. Possibly Jeff Green.</div>

    I believe I read that same article about Yi. A few other things that somewhat concerned me about Yi is that smaller players from college like someone from Xavier who was 6-9 with the last name of Meyers I think and even Chris Porter were said to have outmuscled Yi. His shot blocking is said to be below expectations for a guy with his size and mobility as he must have horrible timing and also because of his lack of strength. Also he lacks 3 point range as he only shot 20% from the international 3 last season.

    Otherwise I was a bit intrigued by some of the other parts of the article about Yi. It highly touted his athletic abilities and said he had a wonderful shot. However it also questioned his ball handling and decision making abilities. He is supposed to have a couple of decent moves with his back to the basket though.

    I don't know, but from this review he doesn't appear to be another Tskitishvili since he has athletic ability to dunk and attack the rim, and he doesn't have 3 point range.
     
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    I'd be willing to deal JRich (SF) or Monta (PG) and the #18 to ATL for the #3 pick and use it to grab Al Horford [​IMG] . He looks to be what we need at PF except for the outside shot.

    Noah may be another possibility to trade up for, but likely won't be an offensive force like Horford. I like Noah better than Yi at this point.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">jason voorhees Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'd be willing to deal JRich (SF) or Monta (PG) and the #18 to ATL for the #3 pick and use it to grab Al Horford [​IMG] . He looks to be what we need at PF except for the outside shot.

    Noah may be another possibility to trade up for, but likely won't be an offensive force like Horford. I like Noah better than Yi at this point.</div>

    I wouldn't trade Jason Richardson or Monta Ellis, and number 18 for Al Horford. I think this would probably really hurt this unit. This would probably move Al Harrington to the 3, which isn't bad but it takes away one of the unit's key advantages. Al Harrington playing the 5 pushed this team into the playoffs. Also talent-wise I question if this would be a good trade for the Warriors.

    I think the case against the Warriors' rebounding is a bit overblown. I am not saying this team last season didn't struggle against some big teams like the Jazz in the playoffs. However in the regular season I think it cleaned up quite a bit once JRich came back. Also I believe that the development of POB, Perovic, and hopefully a full offseason and preseason of Josh Powell can help put this team's rebounding level where it needs to be. I think both Powell and Harrington will actually come back better next season because they will have better understanding and conditioning that are needed for Nelson's system. Thus I really wouldn't want to see the Warriors make such moves. I believe Herbert Hill may be available in the second round who can possibly fill in the same needs Horford may bring. That's the path I'd rather see the Warriors take, at least.
     
  19. Custodianrules2

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    Man, I don't like any of the power forwards in this draft except for Yi and Durant. I probably have said this every day LOL. I almost think we have to get a swingman or a small forward if we want something that will dribble penetrate and be strong/quick enough to finish against heavier, slower players. Just like Clif mentioned above I too am really impressed with Rudy Fernandez' game. But the problem is I hate his body matchup. He couldn't be any other position but a tall point guard. How can one be 6'5 and probably weigh less than Jason Terry? He's got some moments in his game where he looks like Manu Ginobilli meets Brent Barry, but that lack of weight really scares me away... Let's hope he's Tayshaun Prince or Jamaal Crawford type of strong when it comes to playing within their intended positions. We don't want no Dunleavy type weakness on this squad.

    Now Yi I'm impressed how he went from 230 lbs to 245 or something. He could fall out of the tweener category like Pau Gasol did. Durant still hasn't gained that much weight, but he could still be pretty awesome as a small forward if power forward isn't really his true position. Now both those guys could be in the "Zarko Cabarkapa" territory where they don't have true positions at all... or they could be like Dirk Nowitzki or Kevin Garnett where they could invent new positions that can't be matched. (BTW nobody beat Dirk in the playoffs. Dirk beat Dirk by playing all small and whiny.)
     
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    i think i read recently that glenn davis has lost 50 lbs? i wonder what this does for his value....
     

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