Politics White Nationalist Rally turns to violence and terrorism

It appears when one side is losing they will go to any extreme to counter and prevent losing. This kind of strategy sickens me. It shouldnt though because Ive known for most of my life that politicians will say anything to get elected and then change course.
Its that since the extremes having gotten more powerful now they will do anything to bury the other side. Wont be long and it will be the Sunnis and Shia right her in good old USA.
The extremist, its their ideology that parallels religion.

 

Have i ever let on that i think they (racists, kkk, etc)should hold any political power or seat at any political table? If so please show me, as I'm sure there is a misunderstanding. Otherwise, I've never refuted anything you just said, so I'm not sure about this hill I'm dieing on?…unless…

 

Nazis are serial killers and racists.....Fred Trump attended their rally in 1939 in Madison Square garden before we entered the war....America had a ton of Nazi sympathizers due to the fact that many americans were racist then and a lot still are....they have no defense or place in our politics other than as a wall of shame...they did not cause arguments in S2....they caused genocide and lynched minorities ...created what we now know as "white privilege".....there's simply no inclusive footing they deserve in a free country....they don't believe in our freedoms...they only believe in white freedoms

 

you conflated their rally with the division of S2's political debates and culture...which is wrong in my view...Sly's right...you didn't think this through well OB...and it's ok to walk it back...you should in my view...move on and put those whack jobs in the light they deserve to be viewed through. Nazi's aren't conservatives battling liberals...they are a cult of hate...if we start teaching kids their hate in public schools it'll be an insult to all who died to defeat the Nazi's when they tried to conquer the world the first two times.

 

I'm not sure what you mean. When did i ever say we should teach thier beliefs or hatred?
As a matter of fact i was saying dont give them that attention.
Im not understanding what there is to walk back. Im not saying the rally sparked anything. Im saying the comments in the thread was the spark of division.

 

Time to merge this thread with the Ford sucks thread.... (As old Henry was a Nazi supporter)

 

I truly don't understand how you're you're disagreeing with anybody in this thread.

They are anti Nazis. Anti white supremacy. Anti violence and terrorism.

If you're opposed to those things just say so and stop arguing about it...

 

I think Phatguysrule inferred from your statement about being infuriated which he should not have done. He should have checked with you first. But it's not the worst offense I've seen.

 

This whole thing is seriously devolving. If it were me, I'd let it drop.

 

I understand your point, and I appreciate it. However, I don't feel that my line of thinking is at all controversial.

I simply inferred from his insistence that the white supremacists had the right to be there, and the right to speak their mind, that he thought somebody was advocating for the restriction of those rights.

If so, I was trying to understand why he thought that.

If nobody advocated for restrictions then there is no reason to advocate for a right everybody already knows and supports.

I'm still confused as to how this can be at all controversial.

You either support violence, terrorism, and/or hate or you don't.

If you don't support those things, and don't want to be called out for supporting those things, then don't publicly defend the actions of people who are supporting those things.

It seems very simple to me. Unless somebody specifically proposed a restriction on freedom of assembly or freedom of speech, advocating for those things in this thread (and refusing to discuss why) just seems like a straw man argument to distract against the real issues.

 

White Supremacists should not have been there and were not wanted there by the locals even the locals who wanted the statues to remain did not want the White Supremacists there. Period, exclamation point.

 

Exactly. There is no middle ground. White Supremacists should not be tolerated. They should be shouted down and made to feel foolish for their insane views.

 

LOL…

 

Whatever else, I know you to be a good person and would raise my beer as a toast to that fact anytime.

 

Bravo

 

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