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After tonight NBA games we have fall to 8th pick.
 
Collins is quickly rising up my board for the (probable) lotto pick:

 
Scalma said:
Not really. A pick in the 10-15 range this year is pretty much like a top 10 pick in other years.
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You won't have 10-15 if you make the playoffs though.

Basically if you are drafting in top 10 you have about 30-40% to draft a very good player, looking at the last 6-8 years, around 30% to draft a decent player who will get minutes but won't be anywhere near star potential and of course 30% or even more to draft a complete bust. We will not be aiming for a backcourt player so that eliminates Ntilikina, Smith, Fox, Fultz, Monk and Ball. Leaves us with Jackson, Isaac and Tatum really.
 
Sarni said:
You won't have 10-15 if you make the playoffs though.

Basically if you are drafting in top 10 you have about 30-40% to draft a very good player, looking at the last 6-8 years, around 30% to draft a decent player who will get minutes but won't be anywhere near star potential and of course 30% or even more to draft a complete bust. We will not be aiming for a backcourt player so that eliminates Ntilikina, Smith, Fox, Fultz, Monk and Ball. Leaves us with Jackson, Isaac and Tatum really.
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I think Olshey will draft BPA, as he should, so no one would be eliminated. We could use a point guard in the second unit anyway, and I feel confident that Crabbe will be traded in the summer.

That being said, I would take Jackson over anybody.
 
Scalma said:
I think Olshey will draft BPA, as he should, so no one would be eliminated. We could use a point guard in the second unit anyway, and I feel confident that Crabbe will be traded in the summer.

That being said, I would take Jackson over anybody.
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Drafting a point guard to play in the second unit makes no sense. Philadelphia have been drafting best player available and it got them nowhere, they drafted three centers and one of them is gone, one has been injured almost the entire time and the last one they drafted is average, and none of them (maybe apart from Embiid) have great trade value. Drafting a point guard when we have Lillard and are bulding around him, only to play second unit, is counter productive IMO. If we get the chance to get a potentially special point guard like Fultz or Ball, it means we are high enough in the draft to go for either Jackson or Isaac in all likelihood, or Tatum, in which case we should take a small forward and develop him.

IMO whoever drafts Fultz or Ball need to build around them. They are supposed to be franchise players so it's logical to give then platform to develop and probably even from the very beginning (teams like Kings or Wolves or Lakers do not really risk much by playing them on a regular basis ahead of more experienced players).
 
OKC at home tonight. Will we rise to 7th?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Also should be noted that OKC winning potentially improves the value of the Memphis pick as well. We have two separate reasons to want a loss tonight.
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Double dipping. I like it.

Or is it more like double coupon night?

Two for one happy hour?

:cheers: :cheers:
 
Disregard thread title, officially.

Williams was the prospect for me in this draft anyway.

John Collins is a realistic target with our #19 pick though.
 
Our only hopes for moving slightly up are:
1. lose our last two and hope Chicago wins out (they play Brooklyn and Orlando and need to win to stay ahead of Miami), Pacers would just need to win one of their last two and they play Philadelphia. So we could move ahead of both of them with our own pick.
2. Boston needs to win two and Cleveland win one to move the Cleveland pick up one spot. (I'm not sure, if they tie, would there be a coinflip?) There are some other scenarios that could get us into coin flips, but would require Cleveland losing out and any of Toronto, Clippers, Jazz winning out.
3. If Memphis loses their last game (difficult since it is against Dallas), and Atlanta wins out, then we move up one place with our Memphis pick.

So, everyone can be happy on this. We have made the playoffs, now let's have a two game tank and try to move up in the draft!
 
Fez Von Savage said:
Disregard thread title, officially.

Williams was the prospect for me in this draft anyway.

John Collins is a realistic target with our #19 pick though.
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Yes, Sly, change the title to "How to move up in the draft with our three picks"
 
Lauri could still drop. Put some of our picks together to move up ~10-12 to get him.
 
3 picks I would get a tall defensive minded pt guard...a defensive minded, rebounding PF...a small forward who can drain 3s and finish at the rim...I don't see a
backup center in our range in the draft..I'd rather have a vet backing up Nurk.
 
riverman said:
3 picks I would get a tall defensive minded pt guard...a defensive minded, rebounding PF...a small forward who can drain 3s and finish at the rim...I don't see a
backup center in our range in the draft..I'd rather have a vet backing up Nurk.
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Most of the tall PG's are going top-10, but there is Edmond Sumner, a preseason first-round prospect who did nothing to hurt his stock before tearing his ACL in January.

Seems like UCLA's Ike Anigbogu might be the defensive-minded rebounder you're looking for--presently projected at 19 by DraftExpress. Could easily backup both the PF and C spots.

And I bet you'd love Semi Ojeleye at SF--uber athletic at 6'7", and hit 43% from 3 this past year.
 
Who is the douche who attempted to make an OFFICIAL thread!? Leave the official stuff to the experts FAMS! Once again, another example of somebody not reading the rules Denny laid out for this place.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Most of the tall PG's are going top-10, but there is Edmond Sumner, a preseason first-round prospect who did nothing to hurt his stock before tearing his ACL in January.

Seems like UCLA's Ike Anigbogu might be the defensive-minded rebounder you're looking for--presently projected at 19 by DraftExpress. Could easily backup both the PF and C spots.

And I bet you'd love Semi Ojeleye at SF--uber athletic at 6'7", and hit 43% from 3 this past year.
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I really appreciate your input....I watched more college ball this season than ever but mostly NW teams ....
 
riverman said:
I really appreciate your input....I watched more college ball this season than ever but mostly NW teams ....
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I'm just having fun doing the research. This is the most interested I've been in the draft in probably 5 years.
 
HCP said:
Who is the douche who attempted to make an OFFICIAL thread!? Leave the official stuff to the experts FAMS! Once again, another example of somebody not reading the rules Denny laid out for this place.
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HE'S BACK!!!!
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Our only hopes for moving slightly up are:
1. lose our last two and hope Chicago wins out (they play Brooklyn and Orlando and need to win to stay ahead of Miami), Pacers would just need to win one of their last two and they play Philadelphia. So we could move ahead of both of them with our own pick.
2. Boston needs to win two and Cleveland win one to move the Cleveland pick up one spot. (I'm not sure, if they tie, would there be a coinflip?) There are some other scenarios that could get us into coin flips, but would require Cleveland losing out and any of Toronto, Clippers, Jazz winning out.
3. If Memphis loses their last game (difficult since it is against Dallas), and Atlanta wins out, then we move up one place with our Memphis pick.

So, everyone can be happy on this. We have made the playoffs, now let's have a two game tank and try to move up in the draft!
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Great, Blazers holding out best players. Indiana, Chicago and Boston have won. Cleveland in overtime against Miami.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Great, Blazers holding out best players. Indiana, Chicago and Boston have won. Cleveland in overtime against Miami.
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Miami wins, everything going according to plan! Only the Blazers not cooperating (so far).
 
yuyuza1 said:
Lauri could still drop. Put some of our picks together to move up ~10-12 to get him.
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Portland needs another shooter especially at the 3 or 4. While not my favorite prospect, I would absolutely be thrilled if they were able to move up and select Markkanen.

STOMP
 
If TOR, UTA and LA win, and CLE loses its last game, some ping pong magic could have us ending up w the 16th, 20th, and the 23rd picks. Solid
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Guys, what are you doing?
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Here's how I imagine what happens when Stotts sees that Blazers are still hanging in there at the end: he makes sure that Layman is in the game and as he pushes him onto the court he says "you're doing great, Jake, you have the green light to take as many shots as you can!"
 
Jake goes off for 10 pts, 5 rebs and 2 blocks tonight!

Jake the snake is the Bosnian beasts new sidekick.??
 
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