10 things to emulate from Japan

[Shooter]

http://vijaysrinivasan.wordpress.com/2011/03/26/10-things-to-emulate-from-japan/

This is amazing stuff. The Japanese showed real dignity in an enormous tragedy, unlike our own citizens in New Orleans after Katrina. We Americans obviously have some lessons to learn.

 

[julius]

we should try to emulate their porn styles.

 

[julius]

On a serious note, when you come from a culture where everyone is of the same, it's easier not to have racial differences (over generations) playing a role.

You put a bunch of Chinese or Koreans in there, and it wouldn't surprise me if the results were different.

 

[MrJayremmie]

Good post, Shooter. I agree.

 

[Shooter]

On a serious note, when you come from a culture where everyone is of the same, it's easier not to have racial differences (over generations) playing a role.

So the people in New Orleans looted stores after Katrina because of "racial differences"?? Give me a break. That's about the weakest excuse for lawless behavior I've ever heard.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[julius]

So the people in New Orleans looted stores after Katrina because of "racial differences"?? Give me a break. That's about the weakest excuse for lawless behavior I've ever heard.

No, how people reacted to it was. How you perceive things says a lot. As Sly's post shows my point.

 

[Denny Crane]

Wow. The people in Katrina were looting grocery stores to fucking survive. They stole bottled water, shame on them!

Probably a better thing to let the food rot and have people not eat for a week instead.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

No, how people reacted to it was. How you perceive things says a lot. As Sly's post shows my point.

What's funny is they've showed Japanese people looting/gathering/foraging/finding whatever you want to call it they were doing it. They had to do it. News coverage showed them breaking into stores and trucks looking for food. They had to. Some groups of people were cut off from any aid or assistance for over a week. To say that Japanese people didn't loot is very naive. They did what they had to do in order to survive after a terrible disaster.

And who was the first country on the scene to offer aid, help and supplies? Those fucking ugly, looting, criminal Americans. Damn I hate us.

 

[MrJayremmie]

Wow. The people in Katrina were looting grocery stores to fucking survive. They stole bottled water, shame on them!

Probably a better thing to let the food rot and have people not eat for a week instead.

That part is understandable. But that isn't what we are talking about. More about the pharmacies, electronics, and stuff like that to try and profit off the havoc.

 

[Denny Crane]

That part is understandable. But that isn't what we are talking about. More about the pharmacies, electronics, and stuff like that to try and profit off the havoc.

Take a look at sly's post again. White people "find" stuff, black people "loot" it.

And I don't know anything about people stealing electronics (for profit) in the aftermath. I think that's a myth.

 

[julius]

What's funny is they've showed Japanese people looting/gathering/foraging/finding whatever you want to call it they were doing it. They had to do it. News coverage showed them breaking into stores and trucks looking for food. They had to. Some groups of people were cut off from any aid or assistance for over a week. To say that Japanese people didn't loot is very naive. They did what they had to do in order to survive after a terrible disaster.

And who was the first country on the scene to offer aid, help and supplies? Those fucking ugly, looting, criminal Americans. Damn I hate us.

Ah, but the Japanese are a male dominated culture. Their wimmin know their places! They honor their mother and father!

 

[MrJayremmie]

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[MrJayremmie]

Take a look at sly's post again. White people "find" stuff, black people "loot" it.

Wasn't he trying to show the bias/racial profiling of the media? (There were many huge stories on that picture, FYI)

Just google Katrina looting electronics. You will find stories of people looting things they certainly don't need to survive, and you will also find essays and articles about the picture that Sly just posted.

 

[Shooter]

The people in New Orleans stole tricycles, TVs, and all kinds of non-essential stuff. I personally saw video of a policewoman looting in a Wal-Mart. It was shameless behavior. It was very clear they were looting for the hell of it, not to "survive."

 

[maxiep]

The people of New Orleans shouldn't have been there in the first place. It's amazing to me that the Bush Administration gets all the blame, when the Federal Government was third in line after the City of New Orleans (Mayor Nagin) and the State of Louisiana (Gov. Blanco). I still have that image of the drowned parking lot full of school buses and I get angry at the incompetence. And where was the National Guard?

NO was such an amazing city with its own unique culture. I don't think it will ever return to how it was. If it does come back to its previous population, it will be decidedly more milquetoast than it was before.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I wonder if any bloggers from India wrote about the 10 things we can learn from Americans after 9/11? The dignity? The sacrifice? The bravery? The compassion?

Nah, it's clear Americans respond horribly during disasters.

 

[julius]

I wonder if any bloggers from India wrote about the 10 things we can learn from Americans after 9/11? The dignity? The sacrifice? The bravery? The compassion?

Nah, it's clear Americans respond horribly during disasters.

That is interesting to think about, especially given NY had about as much time to prep for the 9/11 attacks as Japan did for the earthquake.

During a hurricane, cities are vacated, so it's probably easier to "loot" or rob. I don't think there were many people who were gone from Japan/the area impacted before the quake hit.

Personally, I think it's pointless to compare how different groups react to natural disasters/attacks. It can have an unintended consequence of appearing racism by nature.

 

[jlprk]

Look at how the British maintain a stiff upper lip during their tsunamis. I admire a culture that stays pompous during adversity. Control your emotions. As they said in WW1, ours is not to question why, ours is but to do and die. Stand up straight in line as you march off a cliff.

 

[Colonel Ronan]

Look at how the British maintain a stiff upper lip during their tsunamis. I admire a culture that stays pompous during adversity. Control your emotions. As they said in WW1, ours is not to question why, ours is but to do and die. Stand up straight in line as you march off a cliff.

"Okay, here is the gameplan, lads. I want you all to stand in a line, shoulder to shoulder, and march through this field towards the Yanks. They will never know what hit them!"

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.suntimes.com/news/steinberg/4421028-452/but-there-was-looting-in-japan.html

And fifth — I saved the best point for last — there of course was looting in Japan, as reported in the Japanese media.

From a website of Kyodo News, Japan’s version of CNN, headlined, in Japanese:

“In Miyagi, police report 40 robberies by those taking advantage of the earthquake.”

The text, translated, reads:

“According to police on the night of the 13th the morning of the 14, approximately 1 million yen in cash was taken from the Miyagi City Home Center. There were robberies at a convenience store and a food store, and robberies at approximately 40 other stores by those taking advantage of the earthquake amounting to 1.65 million yen.”

A City Home Center is a store like a Target. And, at 80 yen to the dollar, the loss isn’t great — $12,500 in cash; $20,000 in theft. In this one report. But here was some looting, and there is no reason to think there wasn’t a lot more.

 

[julius]

http://www.suntimes.com/news/steinberg/4421028-452/but-there-was-looting-in-japan.html

And fifth — I saved the best point for last — there of course was looting in Japan, as reported in the Japanese media.

From a website of Kyodo News, Japan’s version of CNN, headlined, in Japanese:

“In Miyagi, police report 40 robberies by those taking advantage of the earthquake.”

The text, translated, reads:

“According to police on the night of the 13th the morning of the 14, approximately 1 million yen in cash was taken from the Miyagi City Home Center. There were robberies at a convenience store and a food store, and robberies at approximately 40 other stores by those taking advantage of the earthquake amounting to 1.65 million yen.”

A City Home Center is a store like a Target. And, at 80 yen to the dollar, the loss isn’t great — $12,500 in cash; $20,000 in theft. In this one report. But here was some looting, and there is no reason to think there wasn’t a lot more.

I'm calling bullshit Denny! The talking points clearly said there was NO looting in Japan.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

http://www.suntimes.com/news/steinberg/4421028-452/but-there-was-looting-in-japan.html

And fifth — I saved the best point for last — there of course was looting in Japan, as reported in the Japanese media.

From a website of Kyodo News, Japan’s version of CNN, headlined, in Japanese:

“In Miyagi, police report 40 robberies by those taking advantage of the earthquake.”

The text, translated, reads:

“According to police on the night of the 13th the morning of the 14, approximately 1 million yen in cash was taken from the Miyagi City Home Center. There were robberies at a convenience store and a food store, and robberies at approximately 40 other stores by those taking advantage of the earthquake amounting to 1.65 million yen.”

A City Home Center is a store like a Target. And, at 80 yen to the dollar, the loss isn’t great — $12,500 in cash; $20,000 in theft. In this one report. But here was some looting, and there is no reason to think there wasn’t a lot more.

I didn't know Katrina victims relocated to Japan.

 

[bluefrog]

But here was some looting, and there is no reason to think there wasn’t a lot more.

I don't understand how the author can come to this conclusion. He seems to find comfort knowing Japanese are looting , like it validates his view of the world.

I wish the original article was available I'd like to take a look at it.

 

[Denny Crane]

I posted the link, no?

 

[bluefrog]

I posted the link, no?

Well, the author cites a Kyodo News report but I can't find that original report.