12yr Girl Calls 911 on intruders

[Eastoff]

My friend who is a Washington County Sheriff has said that many security system companies won't send police until after they call the house and get no response (due to the high number of false alarms). Now, that may not be 100% accurate but regardless, as someone who grew up in a home with an alarm system I can tell you first hand the response time is less than reassuring.

Well moving to another house seems like an equally daunting problem. Especially for a hypothetical vengeance.

 

[Ed O]

Well moving to another house seems like an equally daunting problem. Especially for a hypothetical vengeance.

I agree. I'd get a loud dog (or two) and a handgun.

Ed O.

 

[MARIS61]

It's my opinion that the criminals being latinos led him to make the post and statement in the first place. A not-so-thinly-veiled "look at what havoc the wetback illegals are causing in this country! Lock 'em all up and ship 'em out!" sentiment.

I don't think he was saying that at all, but since you seem to be extremely defensive about it, are you saying you have some sort of evidence they are not illegal aliens or the product of illegal aliens? Are you offering any indication that they are not gang members? Are you ignorant to the fact that gangs are known for "retribution" and payback? Are you denying the vast majority of Hispanic criminals in America are either illegal aliens or the children of illegal aliens?

We're talking about criminals here who happen to be Hispanic, not legal citizens who happen to be Hispanics, and not even illegal aliens who are otherwise law-abiding Hispanics.

Maybe you're too racist to realize they aren't all the same.

 

[jlprk]

My only feeling is. This family should move to a different house while these guys are in jail. I have a feeling one of these men will come back to the house and try to kill them.

This is a--

DIE ! DIE !

Okay, my hand has green spider blood on it now, but I just wanted to say that this is a scary thread so I'm hiding under my bed.

 

[MARIS61]

2003 stats:

http://crime.about.com/od/prison/a/bjs040720.htm

State and federal correctional authorities held 90,700 non-citizens at midyear 2003, 2.3 percent more than a year earlier. The federal system held 34,456 non citizens (38 percent of all noncitizen prisoners).

(Considering that the vast majority of illegal aliens convicted of non-violent crimes are merely deported rather than imprisoned, that's an enormous number)

On June 30, 2003, the federal system had 170,461 prisoners, more than any state prison system. Since 1995, the federal system has grown an average of 8 percent per year, compared to an average annual growth of 2.9 percent for state inmates and 4 percent for jail inmates during the same period.


Minorities Make Up 60 Percent of Prison Population
An estimated 12 percent of all black males in their twenties were in jails or prisons last June 30, as were an estimated 3.7 percent of Hispanic males and 1.6 percent of white males in that age group. Sixty-eight percent of prison and jail inmates were members of racial or ethnic minority groups.
Jails — locally operated correctional facilities typically holding inmates sentenced to a year or less as well as people in various stages of the criminal justice system, such as awaiting trial -- added more inmates than new beds in the 12 months preceding June 30, 2003. Still local jails were operating at a national average of 6 percent below their official rated capacities. State prisons were between 1 and 17 percent above rated capacity, and federal prisons operated at 33 percent over capacity at the end of 2002.

White non-Hispanics made up 43.6 percent of the local jail population, blacks 39.2 percent, Hispanics 15.4 percent, and other races (Asians, American Indians, Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians and other Pacific Islanders) 1.8 percent.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

Maybe you're too racist to realize they aren't all the same.

I'll let my black ex-wife and two bi-racial children know that I'm an unrepentant racist.

 

[MARIS61]

Here in Beautiful Central Oregon not many criminals break into homes, because they know face the likelyhood of being shot in the home, or chased down the road and shot trying to escape.

 

[MARIS61]

I'll let my black ex-wife and two bi-racial children know that I'm an unrepentant racist.

Maybe that at least explains why you are one?

 

[Nate Dogg]

Is that a racist assumption, that the intruders/robbers were Mexican, and therefor savages with intent on revenge?

My first reaction on the article was the fact that these guys were either 18-23 in age, did this as test for themselves to get away with and didn't have any criminal problems. Their plan backfired and now they know where this family lives when they get out and this was my first thought. The family made the news, the teenager was interviewed, etc and I could see one of these intruders come back in 6 years and do something nasty and its nothing that has to do with race.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

My first reaction on the article was the fact that these guys were either 18-23 in age, did this as test for themselves to get away with and didn't have any criminal problems. Their plan backfired and now they know where this family lives when they get out and this was my first thought. The family made the news, the teenager was interviewed, etc and I could see one of these intruders come back in 6 years and do something nasty and its nothing that has to do with race.

Okay, I can accept that rationale. I wouldn't think in those terms, but I can see how someone could. especially if they've known or experienced that kind of behavior in the past.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I'll let my black ex-wife and two bi-racial children know that I'm an unrepentant racist.

I get called a racist all the time on this board. What no one knows is that I have a beautiful boy that we foster parent that we are in the process of adopting that happens to be black. Apparently his father who is in prison for raping a 12 year old, and his mother who is a crack whore were oppressed by us all. And that one of my best friends who was the best man at my wedding is black.


I've said this in another thread, and it really holds true here. Everyone on the planet is racist at some level. Some, like me, cross the street when they see a couple of black kids on the same street at night. Statistics tell me I should. Statistics also tell me to be wary of middle aged white men driving around neighborhoods in beat up vans.

 

[boatsandstars]

Here in Beautiful Central Oregon not many criminals break into homes, because they know face the likelyhood of being shot in the home, or chased down the road and shot trying to escape.

well, that's extremely doubtful.

 

[MrSelfDestruct]

I agree. I'd get a loud dog (or two) and a handgun.

Ed O.

Agreed 95%. I'd prefer a shotgun over a handgun for home defense. I didn't offer that solution up to Westnob though because I know his feelings toward firearms.