13-14 Blazers vs. 98-99 Blazers

[Natebishop3]

Really not fair to compare these two....

Funny because i just saw JJ on Fox Sports last night and was reminded of how dumb of a play Mike Dunlevy drew up on that play against SA where JJ drove into traffic. It should have been Damon/Sheed/Rider to take that final shot

Why? Don't they essentially serve the same role? Scoring off the bench?

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

Why? Don't they essentially serve the same role? Scoring off the bench?

I meant, the gap between them two is so large its not fair to compare them, not fair to JJ

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I think this team is a lot more solid fundamentally than that late 90s team. Guys like Nic, Wes and LA have been together for a few years and are really our trio. I have to wonder if some of the guys are too similar though in their game and if we need to diversify with a JR Rider type of Shooting Guard. I think if there was a weak link it would be something along those lines.

Its similar in the fact that I think we'll learn this year and then take the next step a season from now.

All this celebrating and woo woo shit is good and all, but until we get out of the first round in the playoffs it means fuck all.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Damon was actually a pretty good defender. It was his offense that was suspect at times.

Huh? Damon was a horrible defender as I recall

 

[magnifier661]

Huh? Damon was a horrible defender as I recall

He was the Dirk stopper! How dare you!

 

[Natebishop3]

I meant, the gap between them two is so large its not fair to compare them, not fair to JJ

Not fair to JJ?

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

I think this team is a lot more solid fundamentally than that late 90s team. Guys like Nic, Wes and LA have been together for a few years and are really our trio. I have to wonder if some of the guys are too similar though in their game and if we need to diversify with a JR Rider type of Shooting Guard. I think if there was a weak link it would be something along those lines.

Its similar in the fact that I think we'll learn this year and then take the next step a season from now.

All this celebrating and woo woo shit is good and all, but until we get out of the first round in the playoffs it means fuck all.

I like this thinking as its what ive been thinking. We have this group together for another year and a half. What i want to have happen this year is gaining expirience, and then next year, sign an MLE player, maybe make a trade to get another dynamic scorer, and then really go for the title next year.

This year is all gravy.

 

[Natebishop3]

Huh? Damon was a horrible defender as I recall

That's what I thought, but his advanced stats kind of surprised me.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I think this team is a lot more solid fundamentally than that late 90s team. Guys like Nic, Wes and LA have been together for a few years and are really our trio. I have to wonder if some of the guys are too similar though in their game and if we need to diversify with a JR Rider type of Shooting Guard. I think if there was a weak link it would be something along those lines.

Its similar in the fact that I think we'll learn this year and then take the next step a season from now.

All this celebrating and woo woo shit is good and all, but until we get out of the first round in the playoffs it means fuck all.

I think people are forgetting how incredibly fundamental Sabas, Sheed, Anthony, Grant and Augmon all were

 

[Natebishop3]

I think people are forgetting how incredibly fundamental Sabas, Sheed, Anthony, Grant and Augmon all were

I don't think anyone is forgetting how good Anthony, Grant, or Augmon was. I haven't seen anyone claim that our bench is anywhere even remotely as good.

 

[magnifier661]

I think people are forgetting how incredibly fundamental Sabas, Sheed, Anthony, Grant and Augmon all were

But how many of them were incredibly clutch? I always remembered that 1999 team and the 2000 for that matter, being a team with excellent depth, but no "go-to-guy". Sheed could have been that player, but he was so on and off offensively. Defensively, those teams were some of the best, usually winning because our defense created offense.

But the moment the game went "half court", we started sputtering. We just didn't know who was going to take the game winner. When the team's offense was sputtering, we had no player to put us on their backs.

The current team has multiple players that can pull through in clutch situations, but mainly Aldridge and Lillard.

 

[Mediocre Man]

But how many of them were incredibly clutch? I always remembered that 1999 team and the 2000 for that matter, being a team with excellent depth, but no "go-to-guy". Sheed could have been that player, but he was so on and off offensively. Defensively, those teams were some of the best, usually winning because our defense created offense.

But the moment the game went "half court", we started sputtering. We just didn't know who was going to take the game winner. When the team's offense was sputtering, we had no player to put us on their backs.

The current team has multiple players that can pull through in clutch situations, but mainly Aldridge and Lillard.

What does this have to do with my response to El presidente saying this team is more fundamental?

 

[magnifier661]

What does this have to do with my response to El presidente saying this team is more fundamental?

The fundamentals you are referring to is mainly defensive. Offensively, we were a good offense, but my point explains how that fundamental doesn't win championships. You need the go-to guys to keep you in ball games until your team can find their way back.

And I'm not responding to El Presidente, I'm responding to you.

 

[Mediocre Man]

The fundamentals you are referring to is mainly defensive. Offensively, we were a good offense, but my point explains how that fundamental doesn't win championships. You need the go-to guys to keep you in ball games until your team can find their way back.

And I'm not responding to El Presidente, I'm responding to you.

But I never brought up clutch.

Being clutch and being fundamental are two entirely different things. It's a completely different discussion

 

[magnifier661]

But I never brought up clutch.

Being clutch and being fundamental are two entirely different things. It's a completely different discussion

Okay lets discuss clutch then.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Okay lets discuss clutch then.

ok.

 

[magnifier661]

ok.

Start over....

I always remembered that 1999 team and the 2000 for that matter, being a team with excellent depth, but no "go-to-guy". Sheed could have been that player, but he was so on and off offensively. Defensively, those teams were some of the best, usually winning because our defense created offense.

But the moment the game went "half court", we started sputtering. We just didn't know who was going to take the game winner. When the team's offense was sputtering, we had no player to put us on their backs.

The current team has multiple players that can pull through in clutch situations, but mainly Aldridge and Lillard.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Start over....

I always remembered that 1999 team and the 2000 for that matter, being a team with excellent depth, but no "go-to-guy". Sheed could have been that player, but he was so on and off offensively. Defensively, those teams were some of the best, usually winning because our defense created offense.

But the moment the game went "half court", we started sputtering. We just didn't know who was going to take the game winner. When the team's offense was sputtering, we had no player to put us on their backs.

The current team has multiple players that can pull through in clutch situations, but mainly Aldridge and Lillard.

I think Lillard is probably more clutch than any player on those teams

 

[magnifier661]

I think Lillard is probably more clutch than any player on those teams

And I think Lillard could become one of the best Blazers to ever play the game by the time his career is over. That's if it's injury free (knock on wood)

 

[Sinobas]

Stoudamire < Lilliard
Rider = Matthews
Williams < Batum
Grant < Aldridge
Sabonis > Lopez

Anthony > Williams
Jackson ? McCollum (need to see him play in reg. season, but Jackson was very good coming in off the bench)
Augmon = Wright (different roles)
Wallace >>>>>> Robson
Cato = Freeland

Fixed. Greg Anthony would be so awesome off the bench for this team, a great defender who can hit the 3.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

What does this have to do with my response to El presidente saying this team is more fundamental?

By that I simply meant it was more of a text-book basketball team. That late 90s team had a lot of heart and intangibles, something that this team doesn't really have, they are more consistent in their execution. That team probably had better overall potential, but the cast of characters was such that you wouldn't know what you'd get on a given night (i.e. Towel in Sabas' face)

Good shooters on the outside anchored by a versatile power forward down low who can demand a double team with a defensive minded center next to him.