$15.00 minimum wage (Seattle)

[EL PRESIDENTE]

discuss.

 

[Natebishop3]

discuss.

Do they think that $15 an hour won't cause everything else to inflate as well?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Inflation

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[EL PRESIDENTE]

It must sting recent college grads the most, I think. Most menial office workers would start off barely above that level, while some high school dropout flipping burgers is ballin' just as hard as you.

 

[Natebishop3]

It must sting recent college grads the most, I think. Most menial office workers would start off barely above that level, while some high school dropout flipping burgers is ballin' just as hard as you.

They won't be balling because the cost of living will go up.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

They won't be balling because the cost of living will go up.

They will be ballin' at the same level. Unless you think entry level jobs will start paying $20-25 an hour.

On the plus side, the lower class will have more money, so they can afford to pay higher rents. :MARIS61:

 

[PapaG]

College grads will now be competing with high-school drop-outs for jobs.

Why stop at $15? How about $25/hour? That's more livable than $15.

 

[blue32]

Inflation. crazyness. everything from bigmac's to the daily starbucks is going to go up. end result, you may end up getting more money but everyday things around your town now cost more.

 

[Mediocre Man]

It's a pretty simple concept.

I live in a few hundred thousand dollar house here in the Houston area. That buys me about 4500 square feet with a 1/2 acre and a pool in a great school district. If I go to New York and spend the same money, I am in a cramped apt with a rodent problem

 

[PapaG]

It's a pretty simple concept.

I live in a few hundred thousand dollar house here in the Houston area. That buys me about 4500 square feet with a 1/2 acre and a pool in a great school district. If I go to New York and spend the same money, I am in a cramped apt with a rodent problem

Hmm ... I withdraw my negative comments about Houston. What are prices like in The Woodlands these days?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Hmm ... I withdraw my negative comments about Houston. What are prices like in The Woodlands these days?

A little more pricey than here. Looks like it's right at $100 a SF with a pool in a sub division

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I think there should be a maximum wage. Make it $16.00 per hour. Then everyone will make almost the same. Everything will be fair and equal.

 

[BigGameDamian]

And college will still put a lot of people in debt.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

And college will still put a lot of people in debt.

Its a less attractive option because you can still make $15 an hour, minimum without even a high school diploma. Sitting in a chair, supervising something.

I'm also thinking that Seattle will get an influx of people from other areas with no skills, hoping to get any job since the pay is probably 40% higher than what they'd usually get. It would cause more competition for the jobs and higher unemployment.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I think there should be a maximum wage. Make it $16.00 per hour. Then everyone will make almost the same. Everything will be fair and equal.

Thank you Mr. Marx

 

[The_Lillard_King]

!5 bucks/hr; legal marijuana . . . you can flip burgers and afford to get high all the time . . . Washington is starting to look very attractive.

 

[PapaG]

Its a less attractive option because you can still make $15 an hour, minimum without even a high school diploma. Sitting in a chair, supervising something.

I'm also thinking that Seattle will get an influx of people from other areas with no skills, hoping to get any job since the pay is probably 40% higher than what they'd usually get. It would cause more competition for the jobs and higher unemployment.

That's what I posted. College grads w/out jobs are going to be competing for a barista job with HS drop-outs. As a business owner, I'd take the HS dropout and hope it works out, because the college graduate is going to be looking to move from the coffee shop if they can get $16/hour in a non-service job.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

That's what I posted. College grads w/out jobs are going to be competing for a barista job with HS drop-outs. As a business owner, I'd take the HS dropout and hope it works out, because the college graduate is going to be looking to move from the coffee shop if they can get $16/hour in a non-service job.

Depends on the person, but I'll take the college grad looking to prove themselves. Yes they could move on (so could the flakey HS dropout) . . . or maybe you find you next assistant manager.

Interesting idea, if you are going to have to pay $15/hr, you might get a better selection of applications

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

We have a "better selection of applicants" now where people are underemployed. People with MBA's and advanced degrees taking low level jobs and part time gigs because there is too much competition for the higher end and they are overqualified for lower level jobs.

Also, how much more is that coffee going to cost you knowing that the guy pouring it is making 40% more than he was.

 

[PapaG]

Depends on the person, but I'll take the college grad looking to prove themselves. Yes they could move on (so could the flakey HS dropout) . . . or maybe you find you next assistant manager.

Interesting idea, if you are going to have to pay $15/hr, you might get a better selection of applications

I'm talking about a local coffee shop with 14 employees, not Starbucks. I'd hire some idiot who at least will show up every day over rotating in a series of college grads moving to Seattle to get service jobs.

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-minimum-wage-connecticut-20140527-story.html#page=1

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

oh give me a fucking break.

Segui still wakes up at 5 a.m. and gets a ride to her shift. After work, carrying a plastic bag of coins and dollar bills from the tip jar, she still walks to the house where her 3-year-old son is watched by his grandmother, and waits for her son's father to give them a ride home.

I'm going to carry around a plastic bag of coins too brah.

When Segui began working at Dunkin' Donuts, she was scheduled for 35 hours a week. A few months ago, she and other workers starting getting fewer hours. She now works from 20 to 27 hours a week.
Employers say they're worried that minimum-wage hikes will inflate their whole pay scale; they fear they'll have to raise all wages so that skilled workers proportionally get more than unskilled workers.

They get what, a 5% increase in pay, but get to work 30-40% less hours? Sign me up brah.

 

[PapaG]

Yeah Prez, the best move for Seattle small businesses now is to hire a bunch of 20-25 hour/week employees, and stop offering health benefits so more people are pushed to the federal plan.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

nah, man. The businesses will just absorb the cost, coupled along with customers willing giving larger tips to the business owners out of the goodness of their heart to offset the higher cost of doing business (without the owners raising prices at all).

Money will be created out of thin air, passed along to people who carry coins and dollar bills in plastic sandwhich bags.

 

[Denny Crane]

Just a $.45 raise killed jobs. It's measurable.

Hey barfo - let 'em eat cake?

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Yeah Prez, the best move for Seattle small businesses now is to hire a bunch of 20-25 hour/week employees, and stop offering health benefits so more people are pushed to the federal plan.

I don't get it. You will hire HS dropouts so they don't leave the job, but then you want to offer 20-25 hr/wk with no benefits. How many HS dropouts do you think will be reliable employees at 20-25 hrs week

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I can see all the high school bros coming in and working for $15 an hour at all the McDonalds jobs, making dat money for booze, bitches and the best summer ever. Managers would likely hire bros they can relate to versus some random mexicans.

 

[PapaG]

I don't get it. You will hire HS dropouts so they don't leave the job, but then you want to offer 20-25 hr/wk with no benefits. How many HS dropouts do you think will be reliable employees at 20-25 hrs week

More than will be the college graduates. Just my opinion, though.

 

[julius]

Does this mean people who work in schools or like in home help have to be paid that too?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

It IS the minimum.......