1999-2000 Team

[Natebishop3]

One through twelve, do you think the 99-00 team was the most talented of all-time?

Pippen
Sheed
Damon
Smitty
Sabonis
Greg Anthony
Brian Grant
Jermaine O'Neal
Stacey Augmon
Detlef
Bonzi
Gary Grant
Antonio Harvey
Joe Klein

That team had so many lottery picks it was insane.

 

[Strenuus]

nba all time or blazers all time?

 

[julius]

One through twelve, do you think the 99-00 team was the most talented of all-time?

Pippen
Sheed
Damon
Smitty
Sabonis
Greg Anthony
Brian Grant
Jermaine O'Neal
Stacey Augmon
Detlef
Bonzi
Gary Grant
Antonio Harvey
Joe Klein

That team had so many lottery picks it was insane.

I think had that team been better coached, and a little stronger in the brains department, they would've easily beaten the Lakers in the conference finals. But they were easily frazzled.

 

[Natebishop3]

nba all time or blazers all time?

NBA All-time.

Can you think of a single team that was that stacked on paper? They had two legit starting units that could have both made the playoffs.

Anthony
Bonzi
Detlef
Grant
Jermaine

That could have been a playoff team right there.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

One through twelve, do you think the 99-00 team was the most talented of all-time?

Pippen
Sheed
Damon
Smitty
Sabonis
Greg Anthony
Brian Grant
Jermaine O'Neal
Stacey Augmon
Detlef
Bonzi
Gary Grant
Antonio Harvey
Joe Klein

That team had so many lottery picks it was insane.

1990-91

31 Alaa Abdelnaby PF 6-10 240 June 24, 1968 R Duke University
9 Danny Ainge SG 6-4 175 March 17, 1959 9 Brigham Young University
2 Mark Bryant PF 6-9 245 April 25, 1965 2 Seton Hall University
42 Wayne Cooper C 6-10 220 November 16, 1956 12 University of New Orleans
6 Walter Davis SG 6-6 193 September 9, 1954 13 University of North Carolina
22 Clyde Drexler SG 6-7 210 June 22, 1962 7 University of Houston
00 Kevin Duckworth C 7-0 275 April 1, 1964 4 Eastern Illinois University
25 Jerome Kersey SF 6-7 215 June 26, 1962 6 Longwood University
44 Drazen Petrovic SG 6-5 195 October 22, 1964 1
30 Terry Porter PG 6-3 195 April 8, 1963 5 University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point
3 Clifford Robinson PF 6-10 225 December 16, 1966 1 University of Connecticut
52 Buck Williams PF 6-8 215 March 8, 1960 9 University of Maryland
21 Danny Young PG 6-3 175 July 26, 1962 6 Wake Forest University

I'm biased but I like this one better. I know Walter Davis and Petro weren't here at the same time. But either or. I still prefer that team to Blank check team.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

On paper, given what they produced before and after their time with the Blazers? Hell yes. But Jermaine was not good yet, and Pippen wasn't great anymore.

But the miracle minute... oh the miracle minute... "OVER THE TOP!"

 

[Strenuus]

NBA All-time.

Can you think of a single team that was that stacked on paper? They had two legit starting units that could have both made the playoffs.

Anthony
Bonzi
Detlef
Grant
Jermaine

That could have been a playoff team right there.

I don't think it's fair to have O'neal in there for that year, considering his minutes were so sporadic. So, if we're saying that about THAT year, and not any future any of them had.. that takes it down a peg, IMO. But still, a damn good team.

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't think it's fair to have O'neal in there for that year, considering his minutes were so sporadic. So, if we're saying that about THAT year, and not any future any of them had.. that takes it down a peg, IMO. But still, a damn good team.

I think Jermaine proved that he only needed steady minutes and a chance to show what he could do. The very next year he went to Indy and was an All-Star. He could have easily started that year if they had give him the chance.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Can you imagine pippen, jermaine, and sabbis in thier prime on that team? A prime sabbis alone could have been dynasty.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

Can you imagine pippen, jermaine, and sabbis in thier prime on that team? A prime sabbis alone could have been dynasty.

As much as I liked Buckwalter who ultimately drafted Sabonis. He didn't have the bargaining tools to get Sabonis out of Russia. It took Whitsitt. Whitsitt was a very shrew man. Loved that about him.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

As much as I liked Buckwalter who ultimately drafted Sabonis. He didn't have the bargaining tools to get Sabonis out of Russia. It took Whitsitt. Whitsitt was a very shrew man. Loved that about him.

Had we had sabbis in his prime im convinced we would have at least 1 more championship and hed easily be top 50 players of all time.

 

[Natebishop3]

Can you imagine pippen, jermaine, and sabbis in thier prime on that team? A prime sabbis alone could have been dynasty.

If we'd had Sabonis in his prime, we would have had at least two championships. I don't think the Bulls could have beaten us.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

Had we had sabbis in his prime im convinced we would have at least 1 more championship and hed easily be top 50 players of all time.

DRob and the 1988 US Olympic team could tell you just how good he was.

Yeah, he Clyde and Terry would have prob brought at least one home.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

That team makes me sad thinking about it. I would love to see that team destroy Miami Lebron or no. Even with Damon who I hated.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

DRob and the 1988 US Olympic team could tell you just how good he was.

Yeah, he Clyde and Terry would have prob brought at least one home.

Sabbas throwing lobs to prime Drexler.......oh hell yeah!

 

[Natebishop3]

That team makes me sad thinking about it. I would love to see that team destroy Miami Lebron or no. Even with Damon who I hated.

The one flaw was a true "go to guy" because it had a bunch of second fiddle players. Pippen, Sheed, and even Smith. They were complimentary stars, but not a Durant or a Kobe etc. If we'd had one real go to guy, I think that team would have easily knocked off the Lakers.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

The one flaw was a true "go to guy" because it had a bunch of second fiddle players. Pippen, Sheed, and even Smith. They were complimentary stars, but not a Durant or a Kobe etc. If we'd had one real go to guy, I think that team would have easily knocked off the Lakers.

I think when they traded for him, Damon was supposed to be this guy. Whitsitt was dooped just like most of us thinking he was the next Isaiah Thomas. I still remember when Isiah was on Up Close with Roy Firestone and the question was asked to him, if you could start a team with two players who would it be? He said Damon and Shaq.

The team and how far it went I believe rested on Damon. And he quit growing as soon as he arrived.

 

[Natebishop3]

I think when they traded for him, Damon was supposed to be this guy. Whitsitt was dooped just like most of us thinking he was the next Isaiah Thomas. I still remember when Isiah was on Up Close with Roy Firestone and the question was asked to him, if you could start a team with two players who would it be? He said Damon and Shaq.

The team and how far it went I believe rested on Damon. And he quit growing as soon as he arrived.

Damon was a great go to guy.... if you gave him the ball and 17 shots a game. He was a volume shooter. He could never produce on a stacked team where he only got like 11-12 shots a game because he was such a horrible shooter. His field goal percentage was trash. His career FG% was 40.6.

 

[BigGameDamian]

One through twelve, do you think the 99-00 team was the most talented of all-time?

Pippen
Sheed
Damon
Smitty
Sabonis
Greg Anthony
Brian Grant
Jermaine O'Neal
Stacey Augmon
Detlef
Bonzi
Gary Grant
Antonio Harvey
Joe Klein

That team had so many lottery picks it was insane.

Yes, I think they should be noted as being the best blazers team of all time with an asterix by that team. I really feel like that Blazers team got robbed. I'm not saying the NBA is flat out rigged but I do think refs have there way of manipulating games and I don't doubt that Refs may have special relationships with coaches and players. I think if that team had won this thread would read "Was the 1999-2000 team the best of all time?" So with an asterix that might be a tough call.

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[OneLifeToLive]

Yes, I think they should be noted as being the best blazers team of all time with an asterix by that team. I really feel like that Blazers team got robbed. I'm not saying the NBA is flat out rigged but I do think refs have there way of manipulating games and I don't doubt that Refs may have special relationships with coaches and players. I think if that team had won this thread would read "Was the 1999-2000 team the best of all time?" So with an asterix that might be a tough call.

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The Lakers were the better team in that series until the refs took over in Game 5. The refs helped the Blazers ever as much as they helped the Lakers just to get it back even.

 

[BigGameDamian]

The Lakers were the better team in that series until the refs took over in Game 5. The refs helped the Blazers ever as much as they helped the Lakers just to get it back even.

The refs took over in the 4th quarter of game 7 by manipulating the game. More games + more viewers means more revenue = more pay. Who wanted to see the Blazers play the Pacers?

 

[Natebishop3]

The Lakers were the better team in that series until the refs took over in Game 5. The refs helped the Blazers ever as much as they helped the Lakers just to get it back even.

No. The refs allowed Shaq to do whatever the fuck he wanted all series long. He could literally bull Sabas out of the way, take four or five steps and dunk the ball. I honestly think Shaq had the most ref bias of any player in the history of the game. They allowed a guy who was 300+ pounds to do whatever the hell he wanted, which made him unstoppable.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

The refs took over in the 4th quarter of game 7 by manipulating the game. More games + more viewers means more revenue = more pay. Who wanted to see the Blazers play the Pacers?

No, if anything the refs started manipulating in game 5. The Blazers were down 3-1 losing both their home games to the Lakers. Blazers had no business winning the next game, the Lakers had them down. If anything you can think the refs for it gong 7 and givin you a chance to say we were robbed. Shaq aside, the Lakers were the better overall team. Quicker, Faster on their feet and better defensively. The right team won the series.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Remember when shawn kemp fumbled the ball around shaq and then dropped a deuce in his eye? Ive never laughed harder watching basketball. Fat kemp was so bad and slow and fat shaq still couldnt keep up

 

[Strenuus]

I think Jermaine proved that he only needed steady minutes and a chance to show what he could do. The very next year he went to Indy and was an All-Star. He could have easily started that year if they had give him the chance.

I know what you're trying to get at, but this is all hindsight. Of course we know the career he had, but you never knew it would come about... because THAT year he was a bench player and nothing more. We can't say that if Robinson got traded he'd all of a sudden become an all star... he's a good bench player (that should get more minutes).

Now, before the semantics come out, I am not saying they are comparable, I am merely saying that we can take Joe Schmoe from our bench and say the same thing because they have shown flashes of brilliance.

Bottom line, you can not say it's the best team ever if one of those that does have a name -- created their name after that year. There are just too many what if's to make it the 'best nba team of all time'. They are on par for being probably top 10... but not the all time best.

 

[Natebishop3]

I know what you're trying to get at, but this is all hindsight. Of course we know the career he had, but you never knew it would come about... because THAT year he was a bench player and nothing more. We can't say that if Robinson got traded he'd all of a sudden become an all star... he's a good bench player (that should get more minutes).

Now, before the semantics come out, I am not saying they are comparable, I am merely saying that we can take Joe Schmoe from our bench and say the same thing because they have shown flashes of brilliance.

Bottom line, you can not say it's the best team ever if one of those that does have a name -- created their name after that year. There are just too many what if's to make it the 'best nba team of all time'. They are on par for being probably top 10... but not the all time best.

But here's the thing, the talent was there. We can look back and say, "holy shit that team was stacked with talent." The only reason why he didn't blossom on the Blazers was because of lack of playing time. We know that now. We didn't know that at the time, but it doesn't make it any less true.

 

[Strenuus]

But here's the thing, the talent was there. We can look back and say, "holy shit that team was stacked with talent." The only reason why he didn't blossom on the Blazers was because of lack of playing time. We know that now. We didn't know that at the time, but it doesn't make it any less true.

I don't agree with that. A team is good that year, because that's the year he was on that team. Not when he's in the middle of all those all stars with Indiana. You can't say Minnesota had one of the best teams ever because David Ortiz was on it. Ya know?

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't agree with that. A team is good that year, because that's the year he was on that team. Not when he's in the middle of all those all stars with Indiana. You can't say Minnesota had one of the best teams ever because David Ortiz was on it. Ya know?

I didn't say best. I said talented. One through twelve, that team was possibly the most talented of all time.

 

[Hobbesarable]

I don't agree with that. A team is good that year, because that's the year he was on that team. Not when he's in the middle of all those all stars with Indiana. You can't say Minnesota had one of the best teams ever because David Ortiz was on it. Ya know?

Yep. One refers to the talent as they were during that specific season, not their achievements in the following seasons.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

If we'd had Sabonis in his prime, we would have had at least two championships. I don't think the Bulls could have beaten us.

I say three. There's no way the Lakers beat us in 1991.