1st Debate! Trump vs Clinton (1 Viewer)

[barfo]

But you keep bringing it up.

Ok, so either you can't read or you are just trying trolling me. Fine.

Did you see your Johnson go limp again today? Couldn't name a SINGLE foreign leader. Not one.

barfo

 

[MARIS61]

Sorry, when did I whine about visas? I'm not trying to be argumentative here, I really have no idea what you are talking about.

barfo

Dementia?

Ok, so either you can't read or you are just trying trolling me. Fine.

Did you see your Johnson go limp again today? Couldn't name a SINGLE foreign leader. Not one.

barfo

I just saw that, it was both hilarious and sad.

I blame home-schooling.

 

[MARIS61]

 

[riverman]

He didn't have to name a foreign leader..they already had names

 

[oldfisherman]

The Washington Post is going after Trump. They are conducting an investigation into his taxes, especially the Trump Foundation, and the claims Trump has made concerning his charitable contributions.

This June 28th article only scratches the surface of what they found early on.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ab5d1a-37dd-11e6-8f7c-d4c723a2becb_story.html

Since then, they have found much more. A Washington Post representative was interviewed on OPB radio that was aired tonight. They now believe they have found several irregularities that should be found to be tax evasion. And they believe there are many more.

The Post is going public because they are having a hard time finding any evidence for most of the contributions Trump claims he made. They found one case where Trump claimed to be collecting contributions for a charity from other foundations, but had them make the contribution directly to him. Then Trump took the tax deduction using their money. The Post also believes this is why Trump will not release his tax returns. Too many irregularities that might get explained if they are made public.

There was a lot more tax irregularities explained on the radio show, but you get the idea. The Post is going after Trump hard.

 

[MARIS61]

The Washington Post is going after Trump. They are conducting an investigation into his taxes, especially the Trump Foundation, and the claims Trump has made concerning his charitable contributions.

This June 28th article only scratches the surface of what they found early on.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ab5d1a-37dd-11e6-8f7c-d4c723a2becb_story.html

Since then, they have found much more. A Washington Post representative was interviewed on OPB radio that was aired tonight. They now believe they have found several irregularities that should be found to be tax evasion. And they believe there are many more.

The Post is going public because they are having a hard time finding any evidence for most of the contributions Trump claims he made. They found one case where Trump claimed to be collecting contributions for a charity from other foundations, but had them make the contribution directly to him. Then Trump took the tax deduction using their money. The Post also believes this is why Trump will not release his tax returns. Too many irregularities that might get explained if they are made public.

There was a lot more tax irregularities explained on the radio show, but you get the idea. The Post is going after Trump hard.

Nobody cares about his taxes. Nobody cares what he said 15 years ago about a beauty contestant who failed to keep her part of a contract. Nobody cares that he said Carly Fiorina has a horse face. She does, but nobody cares that he said so. This is nothing but desperate diversionary tactics so Hillary's crimes and treason get no air time. This is so illegal immigration gets no air time. This is so terrorist attacks in America get no air time. This is so dumping of tens of thousands of muslim "refugees" in our communities gets no air time. This is not news, it is political campaigning by a faux news organization.

 

[MARIS61]

It works like this.

https://video-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v...=90a653f2f9c589cbee85aa68ceacdd81&oe=57ECC1E6

So, no surprise the Bush Family is now endorsing Hillary, who has become a billionaire from these spoils and more modern offshoots of them.

An outsider like Trump, with no political ties to speak of and no reason to protect the lie, simply cannot be allowed to be elected.

 

[MarAzul]

It works like this.

https://video-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v...=90a653f2f9c589cbee85aa68ceacdd81&oe=57ECC1E6

So, no surprise the Bush Family is now endorsing Hillary, who has become a billionaire from these spoils and more modern offshoots of them.

An outsider like Trump, with no political ties to speak of and no reason to protect the lie, simply cannot be allowed to be elected.

Bush! I could not vote for that bugger. So then we got Clinton. I was embarrassed by his schtick. Now it's Hillary's turn? I don't think so.

Trump may be rough, might not be as bright as he thinks but he is not an ass. Might even be what we need, we haven't much to loose. Damn! Please no Hillary!
The poor dweeb that made the video that Hillary blamed for Benghazi is still in jail.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/13/benghazi-scapegoat-filmmaker-remains-prison/

 

[barfo]

He didn't have to name a foreign leader..they already had names

Not good Real American names like Jim Bob or Dwayne or Bertha.

barfo

 

[barfo]

Trump may be rough, might not be as bright as he thinks but he is not an ass.

Trump may be many things, but one thing he most certainly is is an ass.

barfo

 

[barfo]

Newsweek apparently has an article coming out tomorrow showing that Trump did business in Cuba, illegally, during the blockade.

barfo

 

[e_blazer]

Trump may be many things, but one thing he most certainly is is an ass.

barfo

Actually, the ass is the symbol of the Democratic Party, so I don't think that works for Trump.

I'd say he's more of a dick.

 

[Denny Crane]

Ok, so either you can't read or you are just trying trolling me. Fine.

Did you see your Johnson go limp again today? Couldn't name a SINGLE foreign leader. Not one.

barfo

I'd rather him not name single foreign leaders than have someone in office who wants to bomb most of them and spy on us and them.

 

[blue32]

I'd rather him not name single foreign leaders than have someone in office who wants to bomb most of them and spy on us and them.

From the debate it seemed like Clinton was doubling down on her surveillance wants, both internally and externally. Which I find really funny considering the email scandal and all that stuff.

 

[Denny Crane]

The media is reporting on the hacking of the DNC and the Clinton campaign. What do they have to fear?

The truth that came out last time was how they rigged the primary campagn for Clinton. It led to the DNC chairman resigning in disgrace, only to be hired to a prominent position with the Clinton campaign.

Quid quo pro. Clinton took care of who took care of her.

 

[blue32]

The media is reporting on the hacking of the DNC and the Clinton campaign. What do they have to fear?

The truth that came out last time was how they rigged the primary campagn for Clinton. It led to the DNC chairman resigning in disgrace, only to be hired to a prominent position with the Clinton campaign.

Quid quo pro. Clinton took care of who took care of her.

And not a peep from Holt. But we sure do need to know about Obama's birth certificate and Trump's Tax returns!

 

[Denny Crane]

And not a peep from Holt. But we sure do need to know about Obama's birth certificate and Trump's Tax returns!

The birther thing is fair game. I think if he just came out and said he was trolling the president, giving him a hard time, he could move past the whole thing.

Clinton's guesses as to what is in Trump's returns is fair game, too, though she's not being very presidential when she makes unfounded accusations. Unfortunately for her, all of the claims about her crimes regarding the email server have been shown to be true. That Trump didn't pound her on that issue is his doing.

 

[oldfisherman]

I wish Trump would stop comparing our airports to Dubai’s, China’s and other countries airports. He has done it several times now, including in the debate. Here is one quote from the debate.

Our airports are like from a third world country

He wants to upgrade our airports, which are in pretty good shape.
This begs the question; does Trump have his priorities in order?
His comment implies that flying into an airport in the USA is beneath his dignity. And will spend billions so he is more comfortable in our airports.

I believe Trumps priorities are all screwed up. He has lost touch with the average person. And he never had a clue about the real problems that need to be fixed in this country.

 

[Chris Craig]

Nobody cares about his taxes. Nobody cares what he said 15 years ago about a beauty contestant who failed to keep her part of a contract. Nobody cares that he said Carly Fiorina has a horse face. She does, but nobody cares that he said so. This is nothing but desperate diversionary tactics so Hillary's crimes and treason get no air time. This is so illegal immigration gets no air time. This is so terrorist attacks in America get no air time. This is so dumping of tens of thousands of muslim "refugees" in our communities gets no air time. This is not news, it is political campaigning by a faux news organization.

People do care. There would be a stronger sentiment about it had Hillary showed some damned emotion during the debate. That remains her biggest weakness, her clinical and robotic presence. She should have let her emotions show through when he made those gaffs, and tore his ass in two. That emotion is a powerful connector between candidate and the people. I hope that someone is telling her this and she shows up to the next debate with some feeling. Trump is a disgusting, hateful, arrogant man, and the way to destroy him is to show that. If I had been up there debating him, I would have picked up on everyone one of those gaffs and would have gone hulk on his ass. Show what a disgusting hateful piece of despicable garbage he is, point at him, make him uncomfortable, get under his skin, and make people hate him on the worse, most intense level. I don't know why Hillary hasn't doesn't this. Do it next debate and Trump is a goner, its not enough to let himself say horrible things, everyone is desensitized to it already. Do what Biden did afterwards in Pennsylvania, be disgusted by him, show it, make it believable. Do it Hillary. Destroy Destroy....Danger Will Robinson

 

[blue32]

I wish Trump would stop comparing our airports to Dubai’s, China’s and other countries airports. He has done it several times now, including in the debate. Here is one quote from the debate.



He wants to upgrade our airports, which are in pretty good shape.
This begs the question; does Trump have his priorities in order?
His comment implies that flying into an airport in the USA is beneath his dignity. And will spend billions so he is more comfortable in our airports.

I believe Trumps priorities are all screwed up. He has lost touch with the average person. And he never had a clue about the real problems that need to be fixed in this country.

But have you seen some of our airports? They're trash compared to some other countries. I think the key point he is trying to make is that he wants to return business to the US to prop the economy to then spur renovation in things like an airport (it was just an example of our aging infrastructure). The dude has a point. The real problem we need to fix is stop being world police and start building ourselves up, from within.

 

[blue32]

People do care. There would be a stronger sentiment about it had Hillary showed some damned emotion during the debate. That remains her biggest weakness, her clinical and robotic presence. She should have let her emotions show through when he made those gaffs, and tore his ass in two. That emotion is a powerful connector between candidate and the people. I hope that someone is telling her this and she shows up to the next debate with some feeling. Trump is a disgusting, hateful, arrogant man, and the way to destroy him is to show that. If I had been up there debating him, I would have picked up on everyone one of those gaffs and would have gone hulk on his ass. Show what a disgusting hateful piece of despicable garbage he is, point at him, make him uncomfortable, get under his skin, and make people hate him on the worse, most intense level. I don't know why Hillary hasn't doesn't this. Do it next debate and Trump is a goner, its not enough to let himself say horrible things, everyone is desensitized to it already. Do what Biden did afterwards in Pennsylvania, be disgusted by him, show it, make it believable. Do it Hillary. Destroy Destroy....Danger Will Robinson

No, really people do not... People who care are people who do not understand tax returns in the first place. Her quip about Trumps tax returns being the panacea for America's problems was ridiculous at best.

Liberals should really be more concerned about the DNC, and where Clinton's "charity" money is going, or ya know those emails?

 

[oldfisherman]

But have you seen some of our airports? They're trash compared to some other countries. I think the key point he is trying to make is that he wants to return business to the US to prop the economy to then spur renovation in things like an airport. The dude has a point. The real problem we need to do is stop being world police and start building ourselves up, from within.

I have flown into many of the airports in the USA, and about a dozen countries. Our airports are fine.

We do not need our airports to be art galleries. They need to be functional, clean, and safe, which they are.

My point is. It would cost billions to upgrade the airports. That money is better spent elsewhere.
Put people back to work in our National Parks and Forrest that are falling apart, save them for our kids.
Put people to work guarding our borders, more police in high crime areas, to make us all safer.
Put people to work helping the mentally ill.
Put people to work helping inner city kids to stay out of trouble.

There is a ton a ways to spend billions and create jobs. Polishing brass at our airports is way down on the priority list.

 

[blue32]

I have flown into many of the airports in the USA, and about a dozen countries. Our airports are fine.

We do not need our airports to be art galleries. Then need to be functional, clean, and safe, which they are.

My point is. It would cost billions to upgrade the airports. That money is better spent elsewhere.
Put people back to work in our National Parks and Forrest that are falling apart, save them for our kids.
Put people to work guarding our borders, more police in high crime areas, to make us all safer.
Put people to work helping the mentally ill.
Put people to work helping inner city kids to stay out of trouble.

There is a ton a ways to spend billions and create jobs. Polishing brass at our airports is way down on the priority list.

I won't disagree that the money could be used elsewhere over an airport. I think that was his point. He was using the airport example of our aging infrastructure. He wants to resolve that by spurring business here, creating more jobs here, and bolstering the economy. Two key points he made to assist in us saving money as a nation; Making NATO allies pay us for the protection we afford them and stop being the world police.

 

[Denny Crane]

I'm pretty sure Trump isn't releasing his tax returns for the obvious reason. They're complicated and the Clinton camp would spend whatever money it takes to hire a team of accountants to scrutinize every minutia looking for any heat to generate.

 

[Chris Craig]

No, really people do not... People who care are people who do not understand tax returns in the first place. Her quip about Trumps tax returns being the panacea for America's problems was ridiculous at best.

Liberals should really be more concerned about the DNC, and where Clinton's "charity" money is going, or ya know those emails?

Well I know you or Maris don't

 

[blue32]

Well I know you or Maris don't

Of course I don't care about the dudes tax returns. But I also don't care about Hillary's either.

Again, I despise taxes and everything about them. I don't want you or anyone to have to pay.

So what if it showed he did not pay taxes? It means he successfully used tax laws to avoid it. GOOD JOB. I and many other Americans would do the same damn thing. He was following the law.

Clinton, not so much. People should be more concerned that she broke the law blatantly, and then lied to the FBI about it. Yet some people are more concerned about his tax returns? The logic is just not there.

 

[Denny Crane]

http://reason.com/blog/2016/09/28/gary-johnson-gets-angry-you-will-too

When asked by reporters at Twitter's New York headquarters how he would talk about foreign policy, the former two-term New Mexico governor raged:

I want to stop with these military interventions! In my heart, I don't want to send our men and servicewomen to lose their lives, and I don't want to them to be responsible for what are ultimately thousands of innocent people being killed in these countries.

So Hillary Clinton dots the i's and crosses the t's on all the names and everything associated with this, but as a result of that, we have the foreign policy that we have now, that I have to tell you I think is horrible. Horrible!

And that's how I would answer it tonight. I would be mad. I would be angry. i would be angry that people would people would be calling me out on the names, geographic locations, names of foreign leaders, when the underlying policy has thousands of people dying. And that is unacceptable.​

+1

 

[barfo]

People should be more concerned that she broke the law blatantly, and then lied to the FBI about it.

Why should people be concerned about that? Do you really think you know more about the law and about her interview with the FBI than the FBI does?

Yet some people are more concerned about his tax returns? The logic is just not there.

Sure it is. His tax returns will probably show that he's been lying about his charitable contributions, and will probably help reporters uncover more illegal/unethical activities. Those things are worth knowing about.

barfo

 

[barfo]

http://reason.com/blog/2016/09/28/gary-johnson-gets-angry-you-will-too

When asked by reporters at Twitter's New York headquarters how he would talk about foreign policy, the former two-term New Mexico governor raged:

I want to stop with these military interventions! In my heart, I don't want to send our men and servicewomen to lose their lives, and I don't want to them to be responsible for what are ultimately thousands of innocent people being killed in these countries.

So Hillary Clinton dots the i's and crosses the t's on all the names and everything associated with this, but as a result of that, we have the foreign policy that we have now, that I have to tell you I think is horrible. Horrible!

And that's how I would answer it tonight. I would be mad. I would be angry. i would be angry that people would people would be calling me out on the names, geographic locations, names of foreign leaders, when the underlying policy has thousands of people dying. And that is unacceptable.​

+1

If getting angry was all it took to bring about world peace, we'd have gotten there thousands of years ago.

Not impressed.

barfo

 

[barfo]

I'm pretty sure Trump isn't releasing his tax returns for the obvious reason. They're complicated and the Clinton camp would spend whatever money it takes to hire a team of accountants to scrutinize every minutia looking for any heat to generate.

Sure. That's absolutely correct.

Of course, if he was clean, that would be a huge waste of Clinton's time and money, so he'd come out a winner.

But he's not, so he won't.

barfo