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KingSpeed said:
But look at the schedule. They play GS and then us twice. If we win out, Denver just needs one more loss. Losing streaks happen in this league and they blew it last year too.
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Denver has a tough schedule remaining. They have the Spurs at home tomorrow after tonight's game against the Warriors. Could definitely be a letdown spot. They also have a road game at the Jazz remaining. It's possible that we could split the 2 games with them and still finish ahead of them (that's assuming we take care of the Grizzlies, Lakers and Kings).
 
hoopsjock said:
I'm not sure about that. If they apply the division tiebreaker first then Denver would win the division. In which case both Houston and Denver would be the division winners. I don't think it's possible to be the division winner if we tie Denver.
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If king's scenario happens we win the division.
 
dviss1 said:
If king's scenario happens we win the division.
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How? If the division tie is broken before the playoff seeding tie, Denver would win a tie-breaker over Portland, and therefore the division.
 
dviss1 said:
If king's scenario happens we win the division.
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The division tie breaker would apply first and we'd lose that to Denver (basically due to us going 0-4 against OKC).
 
hoopsjock said:
The division tie breaker would apply first and we'd lose that to Denver (basically due to us going 0-4 against OKC).
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Aren't we a full game ahead in his scenario?

Maybe I'm confused.

How would a tie breaker apply if we're a game ahead?
 
dviss1 said:
Aren't we a full game ahead in his scenario?

Maybe I'm confused.

How would a tie breaker apply if we're a game ahead?
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No--in his scenario, we're tied with Denver and Houston.

KingSpeed said:
If Denver loses to GS and we beat Memphis, both likely, and then we beat Denver twice (possible), we will be TIED with Denver in the standings with 2 games to play. Wowza. If we beat Denver twice and there is a 3 way tie between Houston, Denver, and us, how does that shake down? Anyone know?
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dviss1 said:
Aren't we a full game ahead in his scenario?

Maybe I'm confused.

How would a tie breaker apply if we're a game ahead?
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We were discussing the scenario where Houston, Denver, and us were all tied for the 2nd seed. Obviously we win the division if we were a game ahead.
 
I’m so excited about tonight’s 4 games. They all impact the Blazers. Spurs and Thunder can clinch a worse record than us if they lose. In other words, if they both lose, we can do no worse than 6th seed. Also- it’s fun when Spurs and Thunder lose. The Rockets play the Kings and it’s obvious why we want them to lose. And the nightcap of GS vs Denver will impact the Top 4 seeds in a big way.
 
julius said:
The Blazers aren't beating Denver twice.
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Why not? Both games earlier this season were close. And look how we bounced back from getting thumped by Jazz twice. We won 2 straight against them. Almost everyone on the Nuggets have never played in the playoffs before and they completely choked on closing night last season. I’d say we’re favored to win both to tie up series. MUCH more likely than them winning both.
 
KingSpeed said:
Why not? Both games earlier this season were close. And look how we bounced back from getting thumped by Jazz twice. We won 2 straight against them. Almost everyone on the Nuggets have never played in the playoffs before and they completely choked on closing night last season. I’d say we’re favored to win both to tie up series. MUCH more likely than them winning both.
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Three reasons.

Denver is a better team than Portland and Utah.
Denver is healthy and isn't missing CJ and Nurk.
Denver is fighting for the #1 seed.
 
julius said:
Three reasons.

Denver is a better team than Portland and Utah.
Denver is healthy and isn't missing CJ and Nurk.
Denver is fighting for the #1 seed.
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Denver's remaining schedule is TOUGH:

04/02 @Warriors - highly likely L
04/03 Spurs - back to back and letdown spot, possible L
04/05 Blazers - most likely W
04/07 @Blazers - possible L
04/09 @Jazz - very possible L
04/10 TWolves - most likely W

If this scenario plays out and we don't screw up against the Grizzlies, Lakers and Kings, then we would finish ahead of the Nuggets.
 
julius said:
Three reasons.

Denver is a better team than Portland and Utah.
Denver is healthy and isn't missing CJ and Nurk.
Denver is fighting for the #1 seed.
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Denver may well not be better than Portland--they presently have a better record, but that can easily change.
Can't argue this, although I might argue that we haven't really missed CJ all that much.
Denver won't be fighting for the 1 seed for long. After they lose tonight they'll be as close to the 4 as the 1. Portland has just as much seeding to fight for as Denver; even more really, since home court in the first round is still up in the air.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Denver may well not be better than Portland--they presently have a better record, but that can easily change.
Can't argue this, although I might argue that we haven't really missed CJ all that much.
Denver won't be fighting for the 1 seed for long. After they lose tonight they'll be as close to the 4 as the 1. Portland has just as much seeding to fight for as Denver; even more really, since home court in the first round is still up in the air.
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Denver is not missing 2/5th of their starting 5. They are better.
 
hoopsjock said:
But the Blazers or Nuggets would also be the division winner.
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Nuggets would win the division if they are tied with Blazers. So Houston would be 2 Denver 3 and Blazers 4th seed if we had a 3 way tie.
 
KingSpeed said:
But look at the schedule. They play GS and then us twice. If we win out, Denver just needs one more loss. Losing streaks happen in this league and they blew it last year too.
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Its slightly possible, but I don't think it's gonna happen either. Too little room for error.
 
julius said:
Three reasons.

Denver is a better team than Portland and Utah.
Denver is healthy and isn't missing CJ and Nurk.
Denver is fighting for the #1 seed.
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How is Utah better than Portland? We beat them twice and have a better record. And Denver is in danger of falling to 4 seed.
 
KingSpeed said:
How is Utah better than Portland? We beat them twice and have a better record. And Denver is in danger of falling to 4 seed.
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Where the fuck did I say that? sometimes I think you just create arguments to hear yourself talk.
 
If Denver loses tomorrow, all we have to do is win our remaining games and we’re the 2 seed. Amazing that we’re in this position.
 
BonesJones said:
That's incorrect.

Denver is 3 ahead in the loss column with 25 losses and owns the tiebreaker. Losing tomorrow then twice to us gives them 28 losses, tied with us.
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KS is correct. You need to update your standings after Warriors thumped them.
 
ant said:
KS is correct. You need to update your standings after Warriors thumped them.
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Usually ESPN standings update right after games go final but I guess they didn't. My mistake.
 
I dont even want the 2 seed. I'd rather face the Clippers in the 1st round than the Spurs or Thunder.
 
KingSpeed said:
If Denver loses tomorrow, all we have to do is win our remaining games and we’re the 2 seed. Amazing that we’re in this position.
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and if we put flex seal on nurks leg, the title is ours.
 
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