2007 Rugby World Cup

[Stockton]

Throwing some predictions out there,</p>

Australia vs. England - Australia by 13</p>

New Zealand vs. France - New Zealand by 15</p>

South Africa vs. Fiji - South Africa by 45</p>

Argentina vs. Scotland - Argentina by 10</p>

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[M Two One]

I just got a France supporters jersey and an authentic USA jersey. Woot!</p>

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<strike>Thinking of either getting South Africa or Scotland next.</strike></p>

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Forget that! I just seen that Biarritz Olympique have released their new jerseys. I'm buying the home one.</p>

 

[Stockton]

What can you tell me about the selection of Traille at fullback? I could be wrong but from the looks of the French team it seems they'll be kicking for position a lot. Not a bad idea, but with Sivivatu and Rokocoko on the wing missing touch could prove very costly.</p>

 

[M Two One]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Stockton)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

What can you tell me about the selection of Traille at fullback? I could be wrong but from the looks of the French team it seems they'll be kicking for position a lot. Not a bad idea, but with Sivivatu and Rokocoko on the wing missing touch could prove very costly.</p>

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Damien Traille is one of the quickest French Centers and not to mention quite large and extremely versatile. He's one of my three favorite rugby players in the World actually. He can easily and efficiantly play any back position except a Scrum-Half and though you won't see him kicking for points he can kick extremely well as he's very good with his feet. I'd watch Traille, he's very dangerous and fact here is that it is almost impossible to injure the man and keep him down. You seen that injury he suffered against Argentina? Didn't bother him one bit.</p>

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[NTC]

Faaark, HUUUGE night of upsets last night, France knocked New Zealand out last night 20-18, and England knocked Australia out 12-10.</p>

IoweyouanapologyMTwoOne,lol.</p>

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[GMJ]

Oh no!!!!</p>

Wow....what a disappointment for NZ. They were crushing everyone these past couple of years, what a wasted opportunity...</p>

 

[Stockton]

I don't want to sound bitter, France played extremely well. But that would bethe worst refereeing performance I've ever seen. The All Blacks didn't play their best ever game, but still played well enough to win. The ref cost them that game, I could go on and on but the biggest example which can't even be argued was the blatant forward passleading to France's winning try that wasn't called.Touch judges are also at fault on that one. </p>

 

[NTC]

 

[GMJ]

Holy sh*t how are those stats even possible? Thats bewildering</p>

 

[bbwMax]

Good win for England and France Respectively.</p>

Can't beleive we won Wlkinson is now the top scorer in Rugby ever overtaking a Scottish player.</p>

C'mon England beat those Baguette and garlic eating, War retreating, Horizontal black and white top wearing french.</p>

 

[M Two One]

I watched the game, New Zealand blew it for themselves. The ref didn't call things against New Zealand either, so I don't see how anyone can complain. France, like I, know that if you cut into the All Blacks'confidence they will fall like a sack of rocks. You could see that well enough in their kicking.</p>

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I love how the Frenchwalked upfor the Haka. That was great.</p>

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So anyway, I told you so months ago.</p>

 

[bbwMax]

South Africa through and a very enjoyable match i must say.</p>

 

[M Two One]

Yeah that was a good one, Fiji shown exactly why I picked them to go through the quarterfinals. They could've won the match, but a couple calls didn't go their way and cost them the match. Not actually bad calls, just calls that didn't fall in their favor. You have to give them respect to put out that performance despite not having their top scoring threat Nicky Little available due to injury. I was hoping they'd cause a biggestupset in RWC history.</p>

 

[NTC]

 

[GMJ]

haha! you've gotta love it when a badass lets his hair down every once in a while. Good form!</p>

 

[Stockton]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (M Two One)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

I watched the game, New Zealand blew it for themselves. The ref didn't call things against New Zealand either, so I don't see how anyone can complain. France, like I, know that if you cut into the All Blacks'confidence they will fall like a sack of rocks. You could see that well enough in their kicking.</p>

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I love how the Frenchwalked upfor the Haka. That was great.</p>

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So anyway, I told you so months ago.</p>

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Easily. I don't expect thereferees to be perfect, they'll misssome infingementsor make bad calls ineach game. It's rugby after all, I can accept that. But the loss is justhard to stomach even with the All Blacks' bad perfomance when 7 perhaps 14 French points came directly as a result of badrefereeing. Firstly the McAlister sin bin, I don't even think a penalty was justified there. Especially when a similar thing happens20 minutes later with no consequences.Wayne Barnes (ref) described it as "cynical" before dishing the yellow.</p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Although the All Blacks played badly and did not deserve to win, the worst performance of the night came from referee Wayne Barnes. The sin-binning of McAlister was comical and perhaps cost the All Blacks the match, and somehow all three officials missed an obvious forward pass leading up to Jauzion's try.</div> ~ Sportingo</p>

Then there's Luke McAlister himself,</p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>"I thought it (sinbin) was pretty harsh to be honest. I was just holding my ground. I didn't go out of my way to take him out in any bad manner. I just held my line and he ran into me."</p>

McAlister had another disagreement with young English referee Wayne Barnes in the dying minutes when he unsuccessfully attempted a dropped goal from nearly 50m out.</p>

He said this wasn't the panicked action that some might believe.</p>

"We had the advantage, the ref had his arm out so I just thought I would have a stab at it, thinking that we would come back for the advantage. But obviously he thought the advantage was over."</div></p>

Following the sin bin, France landed a penalty from the sin bin spot. But they already had an advantage so I'm not disputing those points. Then they also scored a converted try soon after, we'll never know if they would've got that had the AB's had 15 players like they should have.</p>

Worse still, the forward pass the led to the deciding try. The video should speak for itself,</p>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP8C678NDtI...ated&search=</p>

No one can deny that was blatantly forward, the refs wont get every forward pass but being as important as it was it's incredibly frustrating.</p>

Grant Fox said it best, "France willadvance, but Wayne Barnes wont".</p>

In saying that though, some people aretaking ittoo far. I've already seen about four Wayne Barnes hate sites and there's been death threats directed at him.</p>

Henry will be gone as coach of the AB's as well, even with a 38 from 43 coaching record. I don't like Henry (Aucklander) but for once I actually think of the All Blacks as unlucly, as opposed to chokers. They did enough to win, butthere's no changing what happened and it's timeto move on.</p>

Not to take anything away from the French though, their defense was spectacular.</p>

 

[M Two One]

I still don't see the issue except the forward pass. The All Blacks got away with as much if not more then the French did in that match especially in terms of dirty shots and hits.I watched the match a few times to even see every point of the action. As for the yellow card, you've got to be kidding me, honestly. Not only do I agree with it, but all the commentators did as well, one of which was pissed and going on saying, "Get him off the pitch, now ... thank you very much! 10 minutes is not enough for you." I only had respect for a few All Blacks players on the field that night and Richie McCaw was one of them. I know there will be constant chatter about how the refs cost you guys the game, but that's going on over there as over here and in Europe from what I see no one has a problem with how the game went about. The real reaction to the loss should really be knowing that your poor players (honestly, I feel sorry for them) had to sit out an entire domestic season of rugby to train for the RWC for nothing. That is what should be complained about because that was the biggest shot in the arm when they lost to France knowing that they've nowlost so much. I know I won't sway your decision on this, butI figure I should post what I had seen. Game over, looking forward to England vs France and South Africa vs Argentina.</p>

Final prediction:</p>

France vs Argentina - rematch of the opening match at the same location. Seems inevitable.</p>

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Hey btw dude, what are your views on the next Super 14 season and do you plan to follow the Heineken Cup this year? Biarritz Olympique have been retooling and it looks like they'll be concentrating on combining their numerous veteranplayers withnew young talent to compete. You can see their best 15 in my profile.</p>

 

[Stockton]

I'm expecting a South Africa vs. France final. I want to see Argentina win though. The IRB announced it wants them in the Tri Nations, which would be great for rugby in Argentina. As much as the RWC 2007 might suggest otherwise, they'd struggle somewhat initially. But over time, they'll get stronger if some financial issues can be sorted.</p>

When Graeme Henry goes (he was actually a good coach for the AB's with 38 / 43 wins, but a quarter final exit certainly wont cut it), Robbie Deans will be the leading candidate for AB coach. That should make the Crusaders weaker and open up the competition a bit more,</p>

<table class="wikitable" style="text-align: center">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td colspan="12">Super 12 Results<sup class="reference" id="_ref-lassen_0">[72]</sup></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th>Year</th>
<th>Played</th>
<th>Win</th>
<th>Draw</th>
<th>Loss</th>
<th>PF</th>
<th>PA</th>
<th>Diff</th>
<th>BP</th>
<th>Points</th>
<th>Place</th>
<th>Playoffs</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<th>1996</th>
<td>11</td>
<td>2</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>8</td>
<td>234</td>
<td>378</td>
<td>-144</td>
<td>3</td>
<td>13</td>
<td>12th</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th>1997</th>
<td>11</td>
<td>5</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>5</td>
<td>272</td>
<td>235</td>
<td>37</td>
<td>4</td>
<td>26</td>
<td>6th</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th>1998</th>
<td>11</td>
<td>8</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>3</td>
<td>340</td>
<td>260</td>
<td>80</td>
<td>9</td>
<td>41</td>
<td>1st</td>
<td>(defeated Auckland Blues in final)</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th>1999</th>
<td>11</td>
<td>7</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>3</td>
<td>324</td>
<td>262</td>
<td>62</td>
<td>3</td>
<td>33</td>
<td>1st</td>
<td>(defeated Otago Highlanders in final)</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th>2000</th>
<td>11</td>
<td>8</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>3</td>
<td>369</td>
<td>293</td>
<td>76</td>
<td>7</td>
<td>39</td>
<td>1st</td>
<td>(defeated ACT Brumbies in final)</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th>2001</th>
<td>11</td>
<td>4</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>7</td>
<td>307</td>
<td>331</td>
<td>-24</td>
<td>7</td>
<td>23</td>
<td>10th</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th>2002</th>
<td>11</td>
<td>11</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>469</td>
<td>264</td>
<td>205</td>
<td>7</td>
<td>51</td>
<td>1st</td>
<td>(defeated ACT Brumbies in final)</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th>2003</th>
<td>11</td>
<td>8</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>3</td>
<td>358</td>
<td>263</td>
<td>95</td>
<td>8</td>
<td>40</td>
<td>2nd</td>
<td>(lost final to Blues)</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th>2004</th>
<td>11</td>
<td>7</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>4</td>
<td>345</td>
<td>303</td>
<td>42</td>
<td>6</td>
<td>34</td>
<td>2nd</td>
<td>(lost final to ACT Brumbies)</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th>2005</th>
<td>11</td>
<td>9</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>2</td>
<td>459</td>
<td>281</td>
<td>178</td>
<td>8</td>
<td>44</td>
<td>1st</td>
<td>(defeated Waratahs in final)</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
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<span class="editsection">[edit]</span> <span class="mw-headline">Super 14 placings</span></p>

<table class="wikitable" style="text-align: center">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td colspan="12">Super 14 Results</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th>Year</th>
<th>Played</th>
<th>Win</th>
<th>Draw</th>
<th>Loss</th>
<th>PF</th>
<th>PA</th>
<th>Diff</th>
<th>BP</th>
<th>Points</th>
<th>Place</th>
<th>Playoffs</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<th>2006</th>
<td>13</td>
<td>11</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>1</td>
<td>412</td>
<td>210</td>
<td>202</td>
<td>5</td>
<td>51</td>
<td>1st</td>
<td>(defeated Hurricanes in final)</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th>2007</th>
<td>13</td>
<td>8</td>
<td>0</td>
<td>5</td>
<td>382</td>
<td>235</td>
<td>147</td>
<td>10</td>
<td>42</td>
<td>3rd</td>
<td>(Lost to the Bulls in semi-final)</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</p>

Deans became coach of the Crusaders in 2000. I hope they stay strong though, they're my team</p>

Ican't watch the Heineken Cup so I really onlylook atthe scores onthe internet as it is. </p>

 

[NTC]

GOOD-BYE FRANCE!!</p>

EnglandbookthemselvesaFinalsappearancewitha14-9winoverthefrogslastnight. I'mjustshockedtosaytheleast.</p>

 

[Stockton]

England 14 - 9 France. This world cup just gets more and more unpredictable. If anyone picked England to make the final after the thrashing South Africa dished out to them, well done. They actually scored a try too. They're only one win away from repeating as champs, who would've thought it?</p>

 

[bbwchingy0007]

SWING LOW, SWEET CHARIOT, COMING FORTH TO CARRY ME HOME</p>

We've done it - we've actually made it to the Final. Even though I don't like rugby particularly, this is still great, lol. Problem is, we'll get spanked by South Africa again, unless we can do something pretty special.</p>

 

[bbwMax]

Well With Wilko in form we could do it. And with inspired performances from player like Sackey and Vickery we just might beat South Africa or the Argies.</p>

 

[DDRickyDD]

Yes, England played brilliantly last night. England never gave up!</p>

 

[M Two One]

That game last night was terribly played by both sides. An ugly game, but congrats to England on making it through! I'd like to see England vs. Argentina knowing the two countries hatred of one another.</p>

 

[NTC]

The 'Boks smashed Argentina 37-13 last night. England vs. South Africa final!

 

[M Two One]

That's sad. The IRB predicted that if England face South Africa in the final that the TV ratings would be extremely low. I wouldn't be surprised as people want to see something different.</p>

 

[DDRickyDD]

Congratuations to South Africa worthy winners.</p>

 

[downunderwonder]

dammit the bloody saffas won... like the average south african doesnt brag enough... haha</p>

well done by them. Both teams in the super14 final, best form all year... undisputed.</p>