2008 Election News/Discussion Thread

[The Captain]

I figured it would be nice to have a thread to discuss the candidates/election rather than having riff raff all over.Here, we can post news, polls, discuss candidates, and other things regarding the election.I will list here information on all of the main candidates.<span style="color:#FF0000">Republicans</span>Fmr. Mayor Rudy GulianiOffical SiteBiography/Information-WikipediaOntheissuesSenator John McCainOffical SiteBio/Information-WikipediaOntheissuesFmr. Governor Mitt RomneyOffical SiteBio/Information-WikipediaOntheissuesFmr. Senator/Actor Fred Thompson"Offical" Site (Not formed by his committee)Bio/Information-WikipediaOntheissuesFmr. Speaker of the House Newt GingrichOffical SiteBio/Information-WikipediaOntheissues<span style="color:#0000FF">Democrats</span>Senator Barack ObamaOffical SiteBio/Information-WikipediaOntheissuesSenator Hilary ClintonOffical SiteBio/Information-WikipediaOntheissuesFmr. Senator John EdwardsOffical SiteBio/Information-WikipediaOntheissuesGovernor Bill RichardsonOffical SiteBio/Information-WikipediaOntheissues

 

[BrewCityBuck]

Someone pin this thread. Good idea Captain, this thread will be huge.

 

[The Captain]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Political%...tialPrimary.htm<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>2008 Republican Presidential PrimaryGiuliani 33% McCain 19% Thompson 13%April 17, 2007Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Arizona Senator John McCain both gained support this week in the race for the GOP nomination. Former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson and former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney held steady and remain the only other Republicans earning double digit support.The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of the Republican Presidential Primary competition finds Giuliani at 33%, fourteen points ahead of McCain?s 19%. Thompson is still in third at 13% slightly ahead of Romney at 11%. For Giuliani, that?s his highest level of support in three weeks. It?s McCain?s best showing since early March. Last week, it was Giuliani 27% McCain 16% Thompson 14% and Romney 12%.Rasmussen Reports releases updated polling data on the Republican nominating contest every Tuesday. Results for the Democrats are updated on Mondays. The current survey is based upon national telephone interviews with 824 Likely Republican Primary Voters conducted April 9-12, 2007. The margin of sampling error is +/- 4 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence.Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich was consistently in third place before Thompson?s name was thrown into the ring. He is now in fifth place as and is the top choice for just 8% of those likely to vote in a Republican Primary. (More Below)AdvertismentA separate survey found that 29% of all voters say they would definitely vote for Giuliani if he is on the ballot in November 2008. Thirty-four percent (34%) would definitely vote against him. Those numbers are a bit weaker for Giuliani than they were a month ago, but they are still the best of any Republican Presidential hopeful. For McCain, the numbers are 23% definitely for and 35% definitely against. Those figures have changed little over the past month.Illinois Senator Barack Obama (D) draws the best overall numbers of any candidate at this time?33% definitely for and 33% definitely against.Rasmussen Reports continuously updates favorability ratings and general election match-ups for all Democratic and Republican candidates. Also available are continuously updated ratings for Members of Congress, Other Political Figures, and Journalists.</div>http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Political%...tialPrimary.htm<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>2008 Democratic Presidential PrimaryObama, Clinton TiedApril 23, 2007For the fourth straight week, Illinois Senator Barack Obama (D) has gained ground and he has finally caught New York Senator Hillary Clinton in the race for the Democratic Presidential nomination. It?s now Obama 32% Clinton 32% and former North Carolina Senator John Edwards holding steady at 17%. New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson is a distant fourth at 3%. Senators Chris Dodd and Joe Biden each attract 1% support. So does General Wesley Clark.Obama has been steadily gaining ground during April. Last week, Clinton had a two-point lead. Two weeks ago, it was Clinton by five. The week before that, the former First Lady was up by seven. Our last release in March found Clinton enjoying a double digit lead. Clinton now holds a narrow edge among white voters while Obama leads by 16% among African-Americans.A separate survey showed that Obama has the highest level of core support among all Presidential candidates?33% of voters say they?d definitely vote for him if he?s on the ballot in November 2008.Rasmussen Reports releases national polling data on the Democratic nomination process every Monday and on the Republican race each Tuesday. The current survey of 579 Likely Democratic Primary Voters was conducted April 16-19, 2007. The margin of sampling error is +/-4 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence.Among all voters, Clinton is viewed favorably by 50% and unfavorably by 49%. Obama?s numbers are a bit stronger?59% favorable and 34% unfavorable. The two candidates are essentially even among Democrats?Clinton is viewed favorably by 74% in her party while Obama is viewed favorably by 72%. Among unaffiliated voters, Clinton is viewed favorably by 50%, Obama by 67%.</div>

 

[The Captain]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Apr 23 2007, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Someone pin this thread. Good idea Captain, this thread will be huge.</div>Eh, I hope so. It seems like I'm the only one who is interested in the election on here.

 

[ASUFan22]

I'm insterested, but these candidates aren't that great. I guess I'd go with Obama though.

 

[SirLaker]

Good idea. I thought I had one with this thread: http://www.bballworld.us/forum/index.php?s...c=25544&hl=But yours is better...

 

[Something-To-Say]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Apr 23 2007, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Good idea. I thought I had one with this thread: http://www.bballworld.us/forum/index.php?s...c=25544&hl=But yours is better...</div>Your thread didn't have the word 'discussion' in it lol

 

[the_pestilence]

I'm starting to question Rassmussen polls because they're always so drastically different than all the other polls.

 

[The Captain]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>President of the United States - New JerseyQuinnipiac University, April 19Democratic PrimaryHillary Rodham Clinton: 38%Barack Obama: 16%Al Gore: 12%John Edwards: 9%No other candidate > 5%Republican PrimaryRudy Giuliani: 49%John McCain: 18%Fred Thompson: 6%Mitt Romney: 5%No other candidate > 5%Head-to-HeadRudy Giuliani &reg;: 49%Hillary Rodham Clinton (D): 40%Rudy Giuliani &reg;: 48%Barack Obama (D): 38%Rudy Giuliani &reg;: 48%John Edwards (D): 41%Hillary Rodham Clinton (D): 45%John McCain &reg;: 41%Barack Obama (D): 43%John McCain &reg;: 41%John Edwards (D): 42%John McCain &reg;: 41%Hillary Rodham Clinton (D): 50%Mitt Romney &reg;: 31%Barack Obama (D): 50%Mitt Romney &reg;: 26%John Edwards (D): 51%Mitt Romney &reg;: 26%</div>

 

[MaRdYC26]

Meh. I'm not a huge fan of any of the big name candidates from the DEM party, and don't like any from the republican side.Clinton used to be more liberal, but she seems to be flopping on a lot of issues, and she's so phoney. She's too moderate for me.Obama, I like his personality, many think he's a phoney as well, I don't know, I think he's pretty straight up. He isn't your normal rich ass politician like G.W. Bush. He came from poverty, I like him the most out of all candidiates.Edwards, he's meh. He's not great, and I don't know about him. I just don't think he's too great. I don't know a helluva lot about him, though.Gore, he may be my favorite out of here, up there with Obama. Although basically being a moderate, I support his stance on global warming. With that said, he's a f*cking hypocrite because his electrical/utility bill is HUGE I heard...I heard like three times the price of the average american.

 

[Something-To-Say]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Apr 25 2007, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Gore, he may be my favorite out of here, up there with Obama. Although basically being a moderate, I support his stance on global warming. With that said, he's a f*cking hypocrite because his electrical/utility bill is HUGE I heard...I heard like three times the price of the average american.</div>And as they made fun of on some show, he's more than likely got a private jet. I'm the same stance as you here.

 

[the_pestilence]

LOL, McCain got his ass RAPED by his friend John Stewart today

 

[The Captain]

Romney has got to be fuming that someone who hasn't had a peep of campaigning, spent one red cent, or raised any money at all is beating him in 95% of the polls.

 

[Pacers fan forever]

Obama is the best. He has all the potential to do great things. He reminds me of Lebron James or Dwight Howard with all the potential and hype. (Nobody use this quote in your sig)

 

[MaRdYC26]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Apr 30 2007, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>(Nobody use this quote in your sig)</div>Don't worry.We won't.

 

[Something-To-Say]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Apr 30 2007, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Don't worry.We won't.

</div>You are one confused dude. You have an Albany avatar, a JaMarcus Russell sig, the Yankees record, and a Texas player(Aaron Ross). What the hell, man? Though you are one of my fav posters :happy0144:

 

[gentile]

At another board, I was recently involved in a discussion about Barack Obama's inability to lock up the "black" vote. Black people don't seem to trust him because so many white people like him. Al Sharpton hasn't endorsed Obama because Obama has hinted that it's time to move past the Civil Right's movement strategies and antiquated attitudes (I personally feel this is overt jealousy). And for now, many black feminists seem to support Hilary. And Carolina black people really like Edwards. On a call in show the other day, some black folks were complaining that Obama wasn't really an "African-American" and invoking his white mother; I found this completely hilarious. I came to the conclusion that this could actually work in Obama's favor in a funny way. Black's won't have a choice after the Primary.

 

[the_pestilence]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gentile @ May 1 2007, 08:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>At another board, I was recently involved in a discussion about Barack Obama's inability to lock up the "black" vote. Black people don't seem to trust him because so many white people like him.</div>Can you give a source, rather than hearsay and conjecture? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Al Sharpton hasn't endorsed Obama because Obama has hinted that it's time to move past the Civil Right's movement strategies and antiquated attitudes (I personally feel this is overt jealousy).</div>Al Sharpton does not speak for the black community as a whole. If he did, the black community would be doomed.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>And for now, many black feminists seem to support Hilary. And Carolina black people really like Edwards. On a call in show the other day, some black folks were complaining that Obama wasn't really an "African-American" and invoking his white mother; I found this completely hilarious.</div>Yeah, but all of this is mainly media hype from what I've seen, intended to make people dislike him by telling people the people already dislike him.btw, at the moment Obama and the Dems are ahead in every poll except the primaries, but the gap is shrinking.

 

[BrewCityBuck]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Apr 30 2007, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Obama is the best. He has all the potential to do great things. He reminds me of Lebron James or Dwight Howard with all the potential and hype.</div> The potential to do what?

 

[Pacers fan forever]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ May 1 2007, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The potential to do what?</div>to be a great president

 

[BrewCityBuck]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ May 1 2007, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>to be a great president</div> I just don't understand why you feel that way. The Presidency is so overrated, Obama will only be considered effective if he continuef to have a Democratic house/senate.

 

[The Captain]

We still got that bet going on BCB?If Fred Thompson declares and wins the primary, I get to pick your sig/avatarVice versa? Things are looking nice for me..

 

[BrewCityBuck]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Dominator @ May 1 2007, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We still got that bet going on BCB?If Fred Thompson declares and wins the primary, I get to pick your sig/avatarVice versa? Things are looking nice for me..</div> Your right. :no1:

 

[The Captain]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ May 1 2007, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Your right. :no1:</div>Sarcasm?Not?A little of both?Explain Mr. Spock.

 

[BrewCityBuck]

I watched Fred Thompson on Hannity & Colmes last night, he looked half dead and like he wouldn't last through a campaign, not to mention he's old/fat/boring to listen to. What a terrible bunch of candidates the Republicans have this time...yikes... You have a socially liberal womenizing whisper who has lived off 9/11, another old womanizer in Gingrich, A mormon flipflopper who is dying in the polls....it's like the Republicans have given up knowing the country wants a change to the Democratic side.

 

[The Captain]

I have to disagree. I find him very interesting to listen to. He has that certain tone that guys like Ernie Harwell, Paul Harvey, Ronald Regan has/had. It's not a big, booming voice, but rather a voice of wisdom, like a grandfather. He is easy to understand and keeps it to the point. No rambling on about nothing.Old? Who cares. Fat? Again, who cares.I am kind of worried he couldn't take the physical aspect of a campaign, and that's something he's still taking careful consideration with.

 

[the_pestilence]

LOL, I'm loving mike Gavell."I'm scared of these people!" - Mike Gavell"right on guy we've never seen or heard of before. Gavell is a former senator, and by former I mean he left the senate in 1981, to give you context, I was your age back then. But Gavell has a strong background, Graduating along with other Alaskan Senators from "Wild Coot school of diplomacy and prospectin'" - John Stewart

 

[the_pestilence]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Dominator @ May 2 2007, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I have to disagree. I find him very interesting to listen to. He has that certain tone that guys like Ernie Harwell, Paul Harvey, Ronald Regan has/had. It's not a big, booming voice, but rather a voice of wisdom, like a grandfather. He is easy to understand and keeps it to the point. No rambling on about nothing.Old? Who cares. Fat? Again, who cares.I am kind of worried he couldn't take the physical aspect of a campaign, and that's something he's still taking careful consideration with.</div>I'm also concerned he couldn't take the actually declaring to run part of the campaign either.....

 

[BrewCityBuck]

Mike Gavell is pretty funny...in the debates.... "When I first got into the Senate, I thought, how the hell did I get here? Then after a frew months I wondered, how and the hell did these guys get here?"

 

[BrewCityBuck]